Why the (frank) does every good player I think of shoot left and play left wing. Ffs

What do you all think of Craig Smith as a 3C candidate if NSH doesn't re-sign him? He's a righty which is a plus.
- Rinosaur

I'd be down with that, I just figured the Preds would sign him.

Why the (frank) does every good player I think of shoot left and play left wing. Ffs
- 10inchTerror

Right?! Lol

Looking at the wings blog I’m pretty pessimistic about Murray’s value. There are a TON of goalies who will either be UFAs or available for trade this offseason. I will be thoroughly shocked if we’re able to pull off a one for one trade with him for one of the players we need.
- Victoro311

That's how I've always felt. Bad year to be selling a goalie.

Why the (frank) does every good player I think of shoot left and play left wing. Ffs
- 10inchTerror

Because right-handed people usually opt to be left shots so they can use their dominant hand for stick control and left handedness is a recessive gene.

That's how I've always felt. Bad year to be selling a goalie.
- Tojo.

Just sucks we don't have a choice, and Murray has to go.

What do you all think of Craig Smith as a 3C candidate if NSH doesn't re-sign him? He's a righty which is a plus.
- Rinosaur

I wonder if he even plays center, I can't remember the last time he wasn't a RW. He's a guy that kind of interests me though he's past 30 and a speed guy do might be better to look elsewhere.

Just sucks we don't have a choice, and Murray has to go.
- 668710

No argument there, I just think the return will stink.

I haven't seen specific mention from Friedman, other people are reporting he believes Domi will be a Penguin next season.
- Rinosaur

From what I gather, he just put them as possible trade partners, not a concrete rumor. Domi is rumored to be available since the Habs have some good young centers as we witnessed.

Personally I never expected to get a player in return. My guess is a 2nd and a prospect. If it was for a player I'd imagine another RFA the team doesn't expect to keep.
- Rinosaur

Murray is very young for a goalie. It’s reasonable to expect he will play another 10 years. There is value there.

Toronto for instance will need a goalie after next year. Could swap him with Andersen if they throw in a sweetener. Maybe even get Kapanen back from them.

Detroit needs a goalie now and for the future, if we look for salary instead of picks they could be a good trading partner to unload bad contracts to. Could ship JJ and Bjuk along with Murray for a small return.

Edmonton needs a goalie, unfortunately Cirelli is no longer the GM so McDavid probably can’t be had but maybe Puljarvii?

There are options as long as people temper their expectations. Max value Murray was 2 years ago.

From what I gather, he just put them as possible trade partners, not a concrete rumor. Domi is rumored to be available since the Habs have some good young centers as we witnessed.
- Tojo.

Letang for Petry and Domi works for me.

Murray is very young for a goalie. It’s reasonable to expect he will play another 10 years. There is value there.

Toronto for instance will need a goalie after next year. Could swap him with Andersen if they throw in a sweetener. Maybe even get Kapanen back from them.

Detroit needs a goalie now and for the future, if we look for salary instead of picks they could be a good trading partner to unload bad contracts to. Could ship JJ and Bjuk along with Murray for a small return.

Edmonton needs a goalie, unfortunately Cirelli is no longer the GM so McDavid probably can’t be had but maybe Puljarvii?

There are options as long as people temper their expectations. Max value Murray was 2 years ago.
- stackthepads

I was only expecting a couple picks. Maybe a prospect and pick or some sort of even swap of RFA statuses.

Ottawa is intriguing...

I wonder how the Pens could get Connor Brown and either Tierny or DuClair. Tierny was a Pens' target a few years back.

They definitely need goaltending.

Personally I never expected to get a player in return. My guess is a 2nd and a prospect. If it was for a player I'd imagine another RFA the team doesn't expect to keep.
- Rinosaur

I think Murray's value tops out at at 3rd and if a prospect is added, it would be very low-end, IMO.

What do you all think of Craig Smith as a 3C candidate if NSH doesn't re-sign him? He's a righty which is a plus.
- Rinosaur

He is pretty much a RW and hasn't played center in earnest for a long time. I don't think he drives play much and he probably doesn't have the defensive game to play center. He's also on the wrong side of 30. He'd be a candidate for a bottom 6 RW if we needed one. Could help on PP1 as a righty if we don't do the obvious and put Rust there.

Looking at the wings blog I’m pretty pessimistic about Murray’s value. There are a TON of goalies who will either be UFAs or available for trade this offseason. I will be thoroughly shocked if we’re able to pull off a one for one trade with him for one of the players we need.
- Victoro311

I agree, unless it's maybe for a 3/4 C.

Murray is very young for a goalie. It’s reasonable to expect he will play another 10 years. There is value there.

Toronto for instance will need a goalie after next year. Could swap him with Andersen if they throw in a sweetener. Maybe even get Kapanen back from them.

Detroit needs a goalie now and for the future, if we look for salary instead of picks they could be a good trading partner to unload bad contracts to. Could ship JJ and Bjuk along with Murray for a small return.

Edmonton needs a goalie, unfortunately Cirelli is no longer the GM so McDavid probably can’t be had but maybe Puljarvii?

There are options as long as people temper their expectations. Max value Murray was 2 years ago.
- stackthepads

A Kapanen return would be great!

Puljujarvi is interesting, but id want more. Even if it's just a swap of 1sts to pick ahead of the.

I meant this upcoming season to show ownership, not this past playoffs.Hall is really the only one I truly want, maybe Toffoli depending on the price tag.
- 668710

Ok, well, I don't think this season will be a fair showing, either, with a bunch of holes to fill and staying ~$10M under the cap, especially if we start moving out guys like Horny. We are about to enter no-man's land hell. Instead of Hall or Toffoli we will get the Conor Shearys of the league. Maybe even Conor Sheary himself.

Ottawa is intriguing...

I wonder how the Pens could get Connor Brown and either Tierny or DuClair. Tierny was a Pens' target a few years back.

They definitely need goaltending.
- Rinosaur

Like Connor Brown a lot but he is another mid 6 that the Pens seem to have a lot of. Ottawa has tons of picks, I'd try to get a 2nd off of them.

Letang for Petry and Domi works for me.
- stackthepads

All day, all night. Think the Pens would need to add a bit so throw in McCann going the other way.

Domi is an ideal 3C for the Pens.

Ok, well, I don't think this season will be a fair showing, either, with a bunch of holes to fill and staying ~$10M under the cap, especially if we start moving out guys like Horny. We are about to enter no-man's land hell. Instead of Hall or Toffoli we will get the Conor Shearys of the league. Maybe even Conor Sheary himself.
- Hockey66

Yea I see where you are coming from. It truly depends on how the guys come out the gate, and if a couple of the young guns can do something. Really hoping Poulin can make the jump. Maybe, maybe we can get our 3c with Horny/Murray or both of them. Unless Sheary is at league minimum I don't want him. I'm sure you don't want him at all lol. But I think we let him walk.

No argument there, I just think the return will stink.
- Tojo.

Kevin Allen just said this today on the radio. When asked what the Pens will get for Murray, he said "not much". Murray's rep has taken a bit of beating the last couple of years. I'm thinking a 3rd rounder.

All day, all night. Think the Pens would need to add a bit so throw in McCann going the other way.

Domi is an ideal 3C for the Pens.
- MacPatty

Yea but is Petry really that good? Is this under the assumption Marino is gonna be first pair?I definitely agree on Domi though.

Kevin Allen just said this today on the radio. When asked what the Pens will get for Murray, he said "not much". Murray's rep has taken a bit of beating the last couple of years. I'm thinking a 3rd rounder.
- madmike71

Rightfully so, idk where his camp is coming from of the 8 mil range. The way he's been playing he's gonna be around the same price honesty.

Yea but is Petry really that good? Is this under the assumption Marino is gonna be first pair?I definitely agree on Domi though.
- 668710

He is no first pair D man but he is a good 2nd pair. The approach would have to be that of their playoff run without Letang. Run 3 solid D pairs and rely on the improved forward depth to carry the load.

There aren't many 2C capable guys on the market. Could bring in a FA RD like Vananen and run 3 evenly capable pairs 20 mins a game.