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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:35 PM ET
If that is truly the case. I agree with 89. Get rid of Eichel. I feel bad for the guy. Now his owners could careless about winning and him
- Sabretooth9


If they did care about winning why sign skinner ?

He be gone
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
Not off hand but I'm sure there are a few. Just looking to see if you can admit that he's been pretty good for Tampa during this post season
- Michael Pachla

Pretty good as a #6 making the vet min? Sure.

There’s still almost no difference from him, to your average AHL call up
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 8:41 PM ET
Jack went from ECHL, to a top-10/Hart-worthy center who could very well be a top-5 center in the league in a year or two. Don't see how trading him away for potential, no matter how much, does this franchise any good
- Michael Pachla


Well, let's face it...it won't happen.

But the scenario below envisions a complete rebuild if they ever traded Eichel.
In that rebuild vision , it encompasses the team sucking once again for 2 years; but with that comes the opportunity to add to the pipeline as Tage and Mitts are used in packages to enhance trade returns.

Buffalo fans are now very use to rebuilds, and they can save their money for tickets to spend on vacations until the team re-emerges... and re-emerge it shall as a young, very fast, and exciting team that can drive play.

Jack, a Top 5 Center should be worth 3 - 4 premium assets. The 1st-OA in this draft class probably is considered more than 1 premium asset. So let's guess that if the Sabres were to trade Eichel to NYR, they should expect 3 assets back, now add in Tage to back- fill a bit and to get those 4 premium assets; for instance;
¤ 1st- OA,
¤ Pavel Buchnevich
¤ K'Andre Miller
¤ Alexander Georgiev

Now, take the 1st-OA and trade it along with Kahun, and Mojo to Los Angeles for:
¤ 2-OA
¤ Arthur Kaliyev,
¤ Akil Thomas

In addition to those moves are Risto and Montour who are then on the block as well.
¤ Montour to TO for Kapanen
¤ Risto and Mitts to The Peg for 10-OA and prospect Kristian Vesalainen

DRAFT
¤ 2-OA = Quinton Byfield
¤ 8-OA = Rossi / Holtz
¤ 10-OA = Sanderson / Lundell / Quinn / Jarvis / Gunler

Center
Dylan Cozens
Quinton Byfield
Marco Rossi / Anton Lundell
Akil Thomas
Rasmus Asplund
Curtis Lazar

Left Wing
Jeff Skinner
Victor Olafsson
Arthur Kaliyev
Kristian Vesalainen

Right Wing
Sam Reinhart - - he should be on the block as well, probably for Dahlin's partner
Pavel Buchnevich
Kasperi Kapanen
Alexander Holtz / Jack Quinn

Lh-Defense
Rasmus Dahlin
Jake McCabe
K'Andre Miller
Bryson / Samuelsson

[B]Rh-Defense
Henri Jokiharju
Colin Miller
Wil Borgen

Goalie
Linus Ullmark
Alexander Georgiev
Carter Hutton

I'd be very excited to watch that team for years to come.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:53 PM ET
Can we think of an example of someone who turned it all around at 30
- sbroads24

Forwards not so much. But Dwayne Roloson and more so tim Thomas.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
Well, let's face it...it won't happen.

But the scenario below envisions a complete rebuild if they ever traded Eichel.
In that rebuild vision , it encompasses the team sucking once again for 2 years; but with that comes the opportunity to add to the pipeline as Tage and Mitts are used in packages to enhance trade returns.

Buffalo fans are now very use to rebuilds, and they can save their money for tickets to spend on vacations until the team re-emerges... and re-emerge it shall as a young, very fast, and exciting team that can drive play.

Jack, a Top 5 Center should be worth 3 - 4 premium assets. The 1st-OA in this draft class probably is considered more than 1 premium asset. So let's guess that if the Sabres were to trade Eichel to NYR, they should expect 3 assets back, now add in Tage to back- fill a bit and to get those 4 premium assets; for instance;
¤ 1st- OA,
¤ Pavel Buchnevich
¤ K'Andre Miller
¤ Alexander Georgiev

Now, take the 1st-OA and trade it along with Kahun, and Mojo to Los Angeles for:
¤ 2-OA
¤ Arthur Kaliyev,
¤ Akil Thomas

In addition to those moves are Risto and Montour who are then on the block as well.
¤ Montour to TO for Kapanen
¤ Risto and Mitts to The Peg for 10-OA and prospect Kristian Vesalainen

DRAFT
¤ 2-OA = Quinton Byfield
¤ 8-OA = Rossi / Holtz
¤ 10-OA = Sanderson / Lundell / Quinn / Jarvis / Gunler

Center
Dylan Cozens
Quinton Byfield
Marco Rossi / Anton Lundell
Akil Thomas
Rasmus Asplund
Curtis Lazar

Left Wing
Jeff Skinner
Victor Olafsson
Arthur Kaliyev
Kristian Vesalainen

Right Wing
Sam Reinhart - - he should be on the block as well, probably for Dahlin's partner
Pavel Buchnevich
Kasperi Kapanen
Alexander Holtz / Jack Quinn

Lh-Defense
Rasmus Dahlin
Jake McCabe
K'Andre Miller
Bryson / Samuelsson


- IonSabres[B]Rh-Defense
Henri Jokiharju
Colin Miller
Wil Borgen

Goalie
Linus Ullmark
Alexander Georgiev
Carter Hutton

I'd be very excited to watch that team for years to come.


Kakko should be with the 1st too ..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:57 PM ET
Forwards not so much. But Dwayne Roloson and more so tim Thomas.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Johan Franzen
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 8:59 PM ET
Forwards not so much. But Dwayne Roloson and more so tim Thomas.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Wheeler
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 13 @ 9:03 PM ET
Can we think of an example of someone who turned it all around at 30
- sbroads24


Brent Burns
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 13 @ 9:04 PM ET
Wheeler
- gerbe75pts


This may apply as well but I’d have to dig deeper.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:04 PM ET
Subway are the worst sandwiches ever made.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:12 PM ET
Subway are the worst sandwiches ever made.
- SABRES 89


Agreed ..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:12 PM ET
This may apply as well but I’d have to dig deeper.
- Pegullaville


This might be fun ...

What about the twins
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:13 PM ET
Twitter just reminded me that Florida traded Marchessault to Vegas so they would take Reilly Smith instead of Alex Petrovic.

Unbelievable how badly most of the NHL bungled that expansion.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 13 @ 9:16 PM ET
Twitter just reminded me that Florida traded Marchessault to Vegas so they would take Reilly Smith instead of Alex Petrovic.

Unbelievable how badly most of the NHL bungled that expansion.

- JetpackJesus


And Gallant to coach.

Tallon was brutal
JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:19 PM ET
This might be fun ...

What about the twins

- gerbe75pts

As in the Sedins? They peaked from age 25-30. Of course, even during their declining years, they were still damn good players most years.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:20 PM ET
Twitter just reminded me that Florida traded Marchessault to Vegas so they would take Reilly Smith instead of Alex Petrovic.

Unbelievable how badly most of the NHL bungled that expansion.

- JetpackJesus

Anaheim gave Vegas their 2nd best player in Theodore so they wouldn’t take Vatanen who’s like a #5 d man
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
And Gallant to coach.

Tallon was brutal

- Pegullaville


Whoa, is that a real conspiracy theory?

Fla fired Gallant so Vegas could hire him as part of some under-the-table expansion deal?

Never heard that
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 13 @ 9:28 PM ET
Whoa, is that a real conspiracy theory?

Fla fired Gallant so Vegas could hire him as part of some under-the-table expansion deal?

Never heard that

- jcragcrumple


Well they didn’t have to fire the guy and leave him at the airport....

They fired one of the best coaches in hockey for the boogie man who coached them to nowhere
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 9:29 PM ET
Well they didn’t have to fire the guy and leave him at the airport....

They fired one of the best coaches in hockey for the boogie man who coached them to nowhere

- Pegullaville


That deserves a non-sarcastic "huge if true."

I hadn't even considered that
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:32 PM ET
Sucks for Bryan Little At least hes smarter Then Kyle
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:35 PM ET
Twitter just reminded me that Florida traded Marchessault to Vegas so they would take Reilly Smith instead of Alex Petrovic.

Unbelievable how badly most of the NHL bungled that expansion.

- JetpackJesus


William Karlsson wasa good one
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
Anaheim gave Vegas their 2nd best player in Theodore so they wouldn’t take Vatanen who’s like a #5 d man
- sbroads24


Fear of the unknown sprinkled with a side of extortion was all it took to make most GMs lose their goddamn minds. Brilliant play by McPhee. It just goes to show how the same guy can make great moves even after making possibly the worst move of the cap era in the Forsberg trade.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
Well they didn’t have to fire the guy and leave him at the arena....

They fired one of the best coaches in hockey for the boogie man who coached them to nowhere

- Pegullaville


FIFY
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 13 @ 10:06 PM ET
Twitter just reminded me that Florida traded Marchessault to Vegas so they would take Reilly Smith instead of Alex Petrovic.

Unbelievable how badly most of the NHL bungled that expansion.

- JetpackJesus


The real test will be with Seattle, will have they learned their lesson and tell them to take a flying (frank) at a rolling doughnut when they're told if they make deals with other teams they won't make deals with them? Because you know Seattle is going to try the same poop. Why wouldn't they?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
William Karlsson wasa good one
- gerbe75pts


Karlsson and a first rounder to not take Anderson or Korpisalo (I mean the guy has been a horse in the playoffs though)
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