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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 12 @ 1:23 AM ET

- fidopro


Imagine hating a team so much that you laugh at a trade, that honestly isn't even enough for a player of Marner's caliber, and thinking it's an over payment.

(frank)ing insane.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 12 @ 1:33 AM ET
Imagine hating a team so much that you laugh at a trade, that honestly isn't even enough for a player of Marner's caliber, and thinking it's an over payment.

(frank)ing insane.

- GreatGigInTheSky



I thought he was laughing because it was an underpayment.


I do really want Byram, though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 1:48 AM ET
I thought he was laughing because it was an underpayment.


I do really want Byram, though.

- Steven_Seagull

It’ll cost as you well know the kid is worth it👍
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 12 @ 7:06 AM ET
Imagine hating a team so much that you laugh at a trade, that honestly isn't even enough for a player of Marner's caliber, and thinking it's an over payment.

(frank)ing insane.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Lol that's a brutal trade.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 12 @ 7:07 AM ET


Burger just said the leafs should trade nylander for a 2nd rounder.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 12 @ 7:23 AM ET
Burger just said the leafs should trade nylander for a 2nd rounder.
- burn

Obviously a dumb trade on the surface. But the next 2-3 years cap space is the new gold currency. Especially considering FAs will be had much cheaper than previous years. For example. If there was a clear road to say, using that money to bring on Pietrangelo, then the cap space for a pick trade doesn’t look so bad. Obviously there would need to be assurances. I have no idea the context of burger’s statement just to be clear.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 12 @ 7:29 AM ET
Obviously a dumb trade on the surface. But the next 2-3 years cap space is the new gold currency. Especially considering FAs will be had much cheaper than previous years. For example. If there was a clear road to say, using that money to bring on Pietrangelo, then the cap space for a pick trade doesn’t look so bad. Obviously there would need to be assurances. I have no idea the context of burger’s statement just to be clear.
- aminnes



He said if you can't trade him for dumba then trade him for a 2nd.


He's a (frank)ing idiot
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 12 @ 7:33 AM ET
Obviously a dumb trade on the surface. But the next 2-3 years cap space is the new gold currency. Especially considering FAs will be had much cheaper than previous years. For example. If there was a clear road to say, using that money to bring on Pietrangelo, then the cap space for a pick trade doesn’t look so bad. Obviously there would need to be assurances. I have no idea the context of burger’s statement just to be clear.
- aminnes


Cap situation is a problem for all teams and for FAs. With a level playing field there is no reason not to make hockey based trades and not simply to make cap induced trades. If the Leafs were up against the cap with their money going to older or useless players, then yeah move someone for a pick.

If you want to change the distribution of you cap $ do that but don’t make panic moves.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 12 @ 8:03 AM ET
That Lightning game was (frank)ing torture to watch...and I only saw the 3rd to the end.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:08 AM ET
That Lightning game was (frank)ing torture to watch...and I only saw the 3rd to the end.
- AdamFrench



Goaltending was amazing. Lightning had a worse shooting % than the Leafs. But got the stops. Game of Millimetres some days.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:16 AM ET
Goaltending was amazing. Lightning had a worse shooting % than the Leafs. But got the stops. Game of Millimetres some days.
- bixll



lighting almost got koripalo'd also. well...they still might be..and lose the series..we see what happened to the Leafs
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:21 AM ET
lighting almost got koripalo'd also. well...they still might be..and lose the series..we see what happened to the Leafs
- senstroll



Insane goaltending. How many deflected pucks did he stop last night?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:32 AM ET
Insane goaltending. How many deflected pucks did he stop last night?
- bixll



20? 30? 50?

anyways this is crazy..expected goals 8.3-4

http://moneypuck.com/g.htm?id=2019030121
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
20? 30? 50?

anyways this is crazy..expected goals 8.3-4

http://moneypuck.com/g.htm?id=2019030121

- senstroll



Next game there will only be 4 over times.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
Insane goaltending. How many deflected pucks did he stop last night?
- bixll



Korpi saw more rubber than the 405.

He made some terrific saves and I counted at least half dozen terrific deflected late pucks he stopped.

I’m bent they didn’t call VH for the exact same move they called Jones for earlier.

Tampa doesn’t take 1 penalty in 5 OT’s ??? Yeah right.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:38 AM ET
Korpi saw more rubber than the 405.

He made some terrific saves and I counted at least half dozen terrific deflected late pucks he stopped.

I’m bent they didn’t call VH for the exact same move they called Jones for earlier.

Tampa doesn’t take 1 penalty in 5 OT’s ??? Yeah right.

- dozerD10



The game was not decided on the PP. Which was good.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 12 @ 8:59 AM ET
The game was not decided on the PP. Which was good.
- bixll



imo, if they didnt call obv penalties..thats not good either.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 12 @ 9:15 AM ET
Lol that's a brutal trade.
- burn

Let's hear yours.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 12 @ 9:22 AM ET
Let's hear yours.
- Nighthawk

Bracco for Juolevi 😁
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:24 AM ET
Bracco for Juolevi 😁
- mr.sir

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Aug 12 @ 9:40 AM ET

- AdamFrench

Maybe we can throw in a sweetener

Petan the hometown boy
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:44 AM ET
Obviously a dumb trade on the surface. But the next 2-3 years cap space is the new gold currency. Especially considering FAs will be had much cheaper than previous years. For example. If there was a clear road to say, using that money to bring on Pietrangelo, then the cap space for a pick trade doesn’t look so bad. Obviously there would need to be assurances. I have no idea the context of burger’s statement just to be clear.
- aminnes



No it's a dumb trade of any surface. He's not just saying it saves cap space, he's saying Nylander has very little value. Far worse players get more for a few weeks at the trade deadline. 1 year ago Berger claimed it would cost Nylander to get the past his prime Wayne Simmonds for 6 weeks. Simmonds went for very little of course.

Nylander will only go for a very good DMan. He's 24, 31 goals, signed through his prime with very little actual $$ left on his deal.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 12 @ 9:45 AM ET
Hyman Matthews Nylander
Johnsson Tavares Robertson
Miky Kerfoot Donskoi
Engvall Gauthier Kapanen

Reilly Muzzin
Byram Zadorov
Dermott Holl
Sandin

Freddie
Campbell

Opinions are welcome lol

- Nighthawk

Its time to move on from holl
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 9:46 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...e-maple-leafs-off-season/


BTW, remember the past few weeks I've said the Leafs' paying huge July 1st bonuses make their players have more value? There you go. Friedman just mentioned it. Nylander is actually owed very little $$$$. That will be huge as many teams are cutting budget this offseason due to COVID losses.

I think actual cash will even mean more than "Cap".

The Maple Leafs have more flexibility than some realize. Nylander’s actual cash payments drop below his cap hit the next four seasons, Kasperi Kapanen’s for the next two. (My understanding of the post-signing no-trade promise to Nylander was that it was intended to be solely in the immediate aftermath of the agreement.) In 2021–22, Andreas Johnsson and Alex Kerfoot join that list. That has value in a tight-cap, tight-cash world. Toronto will test the market to see what dance partners pop up.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 12 @ 9:50 AM ET
I’m predicting no huge trades will happen & Dubas will keep the big 3 & Willy.
Patch up the D & try it for another season.
It will put Dubas on the hot seat.

- Nighthawk

if dubas does nothing, he needs to be fired.
If shanny doesnt fire him after that, shanny needs to be fired.
This 40 million in 4 players isnt working.
I can some small moves being made, I don't believe dubas has the stones to move willie or marner.
But I could be wrong, we'll see
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