I've long been critical of both the Leafs and Canucks cap management. With a now stagnant and likely dropping salary cap we're both in poor situations moving forward.
- golfingsince

Except every team is franked. 19 teams this year had less than $2M in cap space.

And at the end of the day, I'd rather be a team with no cap space but money and creativity to make it less of a problem than be a team with no cap space and/or huge pressures to reduce payroll.

checking in on the ol USA



sounds about right
- senstroll

5 year old boy executed in in front of sisters for riding bike on neighbours lawn...sounds about right.

checking in on the ol USA



sounds about right
- senstroll

Been reading about all these people turning in Americans visiting Canada illegally

Dubas traded for Muzzin and Clifford. He so far has not been against adding those types of players.

the thing is, those moves always get ignored...for whatever reason...its not the right grit and toughness...or something
- senstroll

true, however Dubas also dealt Kadri for Kerfoot and Barrie... you can characterize that one as you see fit.

in the end.. .the top 6 forwards have 1 guy with some useful physicality.
the third line in the series against Columbus was mostly 2 guys who are 5-8 5-9 and 160lbs and a right winger whose 6' and 180 pounds.

Except every team is franked. 19 teams this year had less than $2M in cap space.

And at the end of the day, I'd rather be a team with no cap space but money and creativity to make it less of a problem than be a team with no cap space and/or huge pressures to reduce payroll.
- Atomic Wedgie

One executive said their team is operating on a budget at 25% arena capacity....and that they are an optimistic team.

Fans of budget teams are going to be really (frank)ing angry this offseason, and fans aren't really understanding that.

The Trochek trade? There will be lots of them.
after SB

Marner-900k
Andersen-1 million
Nylander-2.5 million
Kapanen-1.8 million
Kerfoot- 2.6 million
Johnnson-2.6 million

All of their long term contracts are largely paid off.

The Leafs have Ann opportunity to bend over some teams.

I ain't back reading. You female doges seen't this?-

https://twitter.com/corwi...tatus/1292965620712198145



Leafs ball looked a little too big for that hole.

true, however Dubas also dealt Kadri for Kerfoot and Barrie... you can characterize that one as you see fit.

in the end.. .the top 6 forwards have 1 guy with some useful physicality.
the third line in the series against Columbus was mostly 2 guys who are 5-8 5-9 and 160lbs and a right winger whose 6' and 180 pounds.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Leafs were completely outmatched physically by the CBJs these last 5 games.

Just doing some quick Excel math on Leafs contracts:

If we trade Johnsson immediately after his bonus is paid for 2020-21, it works out to $2.5M average salary (real dollars) over three years on a $3.4M cap hit.

If we do it after his bonus is paid for 2021-22, real dollars average $1.625M.

Final year? $750,000

Another heartwarming story of an 8 year that cops try to handcuff in school because he was “acting out”. He was special needs, substitute teacher didn’t know and when she tried to contain him physically he didn’t react well, they called the cops who tried to cuff him.

The handcuffs fell off because he was too small.

https://www.nbcnews.com/n...36304?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

Except every team is franked. 19 teams this year had less than $2M in cap space.

And at the end of the day, I'd rather be a team with no cap space but money and creativity to make it less of a problem than be a team with no cap space and/or huge pressures to reduce payroll.
- Atomic Wedgie

BJs are okay. They'll be fine. Also, the Redwings, and Habs have a lot of space. Toronto 'll be fine once they make a trade or two... everyone thought Leafs were in cap hell last summer as well. Leafs D is in better shape than people think. They just need a top 6 guy who can go to the net in place of Marner and one defensive dman (a Chris Tanev type) who can make a first pass. Marner could get both those pieces in one trade.

BJs are okay. They'll be fine. Also, the Redwings, and Habs have a lot of space. Toronto 'll be fine once they make a trade or two... everyone thought Leafs were in cap hell last summer as well. Leafs D is in better shape than people think. They just need a top 6 guy who can go to the net in place of Marner and one defensive dman (a Chris Tanev type) who can make a first pass. Marner could get both those pieces in one trade.
- MisterBrown

Oh?

one of the lowest revenue teams in the league?

Except every team is franked. 19 teams this year had less than $2M in cap space.

And at the end of the day, I'd rather be a team with no cap space but money and creativity to make it less of a problem than be a team with no cap space and/or huge pressures to reduce payroll.
- Atomic Wedgie

How much of a revenue drop will teams like the Leafs see though without gate and with much reduced merchandise sales?

I guess there's still the possibility of attendance but it doesn't look likely at this point. That's really going to put a drag on spending IMO. Yes, they're still wealthy compared to most franchises but the league cap could drop off a cliff.

Just doing some quick Excel math on Leafs contracts:

If we trade Johnsson immediately after his bonus is paid for 2020-21, it works out to $2.5M average salary (real dollars) over three years on a $3.4M cap hit.

If we do it after his bonus is paid for 2021-22, real dollars average $1.625M.

Final year? $750,000
- Atomic Wedgie

Nylander:

Trade him after his 2020-21 bonus is paid out, and a team gets him for 4 years with an average actual salary average of $3.875M per year.

Holy frank. That's got to tempt some small-market teams.

How much of a revenue drop will teams like the Leafs see though without gate and with much reduced merchandise sales?

I guess there's still the possibility of attendance but it doesn't look likely at this point. That's really going to put a drag on spending IMO. Yes, they're still wealthy compared to most franchises but the league cap could drop off a cliff.
- golfingsince

The salary cap is a fly on the wall for the leafs budget

Oh?

one of the lowest revenue teams in the league?
- Santo_44

if attendance is 1/4 (like someone said earlier 25% capacity) and there's a new TV deal in the States that I've read is supposed to be much bigger than the existing deal, then maybe they've made up the revenue lost from the gate as it is. they have a low payroll anyways.

I ain't back reading. You female doges seen't this?-

https://twitter.com/corwi...tatus/1292965620712198145



Leafs ball looked a little too big for that hole.
- GreatGigInTheSky

blue balls will do that

Leafs were completely outmatched physically by the CBJs these last 5 games.
- MaximusAurelius

And that’s why they were blow out by Boston and Washington and Columbus. Cliches are easy.

Another heartwarming story of an 8 year that cops try to handcuff in school because he was “acting out”. He was special needs, substitute teacher didn’t know and when she tried to contain him physically he didn’t react well, they called the cops who tried to cuff him.

The handcuffs fell off because he was too small.

https://www.nbcnews.com/n...36304?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
- Canada Cup

any 8y kid that hits a teacher after being asked to sit down in his chair has a serious problem.
(charter schools somehow turn 'special needs' kids into 'normal needs' kids ..)

any 8y kid that hits a teacher after being asked to sit down in his chair has a serious problem.
(charter schools somehow turn 'special needs' kids into 'normal needs' kids ..)
- MaximusAurelius

Ok Betsy

Dubas traded for Muzzin and Clifford. He so far has not been against adding those types of players.

the thing is, those moves always get ignored...for whatever reason...its not the right grit and toughness...or something
- senstroll

According to NHL.com the leafs were bigger than CLB.

The idea that CLB is some big fore-checking, hitting machine is nonsense. What they did was shut down the neutral zone to perfection and when the Leafs gained the zone they crammed the crease and gave the Leafs nothing but open looks from the point.

Leafs needed to do better with point shots. The one place the Leafs could have done better (and likely need some new personnel to do it) is winning puck battles in front of the net ...occupying those CLB defenders. JT and Hyman are really the only guys in the top 9 that do that well.

any 8y kid that hits a teacher after being asked to sit down in his chair has a serious problem.
(charter schools somehow turn 'special needs' kids into 'normal needs' kids ..)
- MaximusAurelius

You are a clown

Kamala Harris next VP of the US

if attendance is 1/4 (like someone said earlier 25% capacity) and there's a new TV deal in the States that I've read is supposed to be much bigger than the existing deal, then maybe they've made up the revenue lost from the gate as it is. they have a low payroll anyways.
- MisterBrown

I don't think you understand how much money the NHL is losing.

You realize how much revenue teams have lost already right? Teams are making budget cuts based off the 10 games and playoffs lost revenue already. Next year will be another year of massive lost revenue.

You are in for a treat if you don't think over half the league are making budget cuts.

You are a clown
- Santo_44

because it's ok if 8y old hit their teachers?

How much of a revenue drop will teams like the Leafs see though without gate and with much reduced merchandise sales?

I guess there's still the possibility of attendance but it doesn't look likely at this point. That's really going to put a drag on spending IMO. Yes, they're still wealthy compared to most franchises but the league cap could drop off a cliff.
- golfingsince

I think it's more a case of Bell/Rogers willing to take a bath for a year, because they are sitting on a pile of gold, and they know that once the league comes back, fans will be pounding down the doors to hand over their money.

This is an actual photo of the Leafs' boardroom:



In Columbus? Miami?

The fans will come back slowly, if at all.