So how does that play out it Pietrangelo wants more money shorter term? Like say 3 x 10. He just may not want to be looking at longevity in such a strange market.
- joel878

Because he legit said he wants a long term contract for his family and doesn't want to worry about moving after a few years.

He is getting a long term contract this fall.

If Petro wants to sign here for 7 years at 9 million are we okay with losing a Marner trade?
- Santo_44

Where did you here this?

Nevermind, missed the IF part lol

I think its time the Leafs shakeup the team and get a D.

It has to come at the expense of one of the contracts over 10 million...and that won't be JT or AM.
- Santo_44

A shake up is definitely needed.

I’ll go Av’s for the Bozie, Nazie one-two. Other than that the Habs melt down inducing win would be fun. (Av’s also best team IMO)
- Canada Cup

Bos vs Col would be ... interesting...

Because he legit said he wants a long term contract for his family and doesn't want to worry about moving after a few years.

He is getting a long term contract this fall.
- Santo_44

Fair, but there's always the potential. An agent pitches more dollars if he signs a bridge and goes long term wants the cap is freeing up... Who knows...

I don't want him at that high of a cap hit personally. Same problems in different areas.

If Petro wants to sign here for 7 years at 9 million are we okay with losing a Marner trade?
- Santo_44

Depends on the size of the loss.

Bos vs Col would be ... interesting...
- Nasty_Duck

agreed. Does Kadri finish the series?

Depends on the size of the loss.
- The Law

The loss would be 5'11 and about 145 lbs

Agreed.

I would trade Marner and Willie if the right deals came along. But Marner would be the one I'm actively looking to deal because contract. It's a poop cap hit for the leafs but marketable money for a tighter pocketed team.
- joel878

If they can get Petro

NSH is desperate for elite forward talent.

Marner, AJ

Ardvidson, Bonino, 11th overall, 42nd overall

Aj and Bonino need to be added to make the cap work for NSH so they can resign their depth.

Hyman-AM-Nylander
Mikheyev-JT-Ardvidson
Robertson-Bonino-Kap
Kerfoot-Spezza-Barabanov


Poille is a bold GM too.

I'd deal Willy, Kerfoot and Johnsson and keep Marner. But that's just me. Pietrangelo would solve alot of the Leafs defense issues.

Pietrangelo-Rielly
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-Holl
Liljegren
- gergeswillems

My concern with that plan is you're moving more depth for elite talent. You'd be replacing those 3rd liners with guys making peanuts.

If Petro wants to sign here for 7 years at 9 million are we okay with losing a Marner trade?
- Santo_44

you haven't even seen Petro play.

you haven't even seen Petro play.
- MaximusAurelius

cool thanks

So how does that play out it Pietrangelo wants more money shorter term? Like say 3 x 10. He just may not want to be looking at longevity in such a strange market.
- joel878

I don't see it ..maybe, but I think at his age he's looking to max out his final prime negotiating status. 7 or 8 years at 9+ milly.

cool thanks
- Santo_44

you just mentioned that you just watch the leafs.
your nonsensical hockey takes ('trade marner!') now make more sense.

you just mentioned that you just watch the leafs.
your nonsensical hockey takes ('trade marner!') now make more sense.
- MaximusAurelius

cool thanks

The loss would be 5'11 and about 145 lbs
- bixll

lol ...I can live with that.

I'd be shocked to see MM traded. I still think he's got the makeup to be elite for a bunch of years plus I think his contract is tough to move - it would have to be a perfect storm.

My concern with that plan is you're moving more depth for elite talent. You'd be replacing those 3rd liners with guys making peanuts.
- The Law

True. It's why I advocated signing Joe Thornton to a cheap 1 year deal to center the third line. Still, I see what you're saying. You'd cheapen your depth. Your bottom 6 might be spread too thin.

The loss would be 5'11 and about 145 lbs
- bixll

Trade Willie miles before Marner, we can find extra cap savings somewhere else. Unless we’re not trying to win, then they can trade whoever they like.

i look forward to adding Brodie and Gudas and calling it a day

i look forward to adding Brodie and Gudas and calling it a day
- drexel

Brodie would actually be a really good add...but he nixed a trade to the Leafs so idk.

The most likely move they will make is replacing Fred.

There is two routes to go here. Dealing a star(Marner) if Petro or a top pairing D comes available to the Leafs.

Or revamping the supporting cast, moving out dollars and improving the D.

If Petro wants to sign here for 7 years at 9 million are we okay with losing a Marner trade?
- Santo_44

isn't this a no brainer considering what Marner would bring back in return?

i look forward to adding Brodie and Gudas and calling it a day
- drexel

A Good Day to Bro Die and Chadko Godless are the missing pieces.

True. It's why I advocated signing Joe Thornton to a cheap 1 year deal to center the third line. Still, I see what you're saying. You'd cheapen your depth. Your bottom 6 might be spread too thin.
- gergeswillems

It may be a pipe dream but I think the primary option is looking for a good young RHD on a good contract. Will it cost Kapanen, +, Nylander ...or Marner.

I'm sure Dubas has been looking for this same thing for his entire 2 years of GM'ing. Not easy to find. Gotta look at teams that have depth on D, need some scoring, and can make the Cap work.

Pesce? Klingberg? Severson? Savard? Manson?

isn't this a no brainer considering what Marner would bring back in return?
- DoubleDown

What teams have won a star for a package trade?

His contract is very tradable.

Only owed 900K next year.

Dubas gave himself and out and he may use it this summer.

JT, AM are untouchable and Nylander's contract is too good.
- Santo_44

If you look at the numbers, he's very tradeable for 2020-21, after his bonus has been paid. $7M average per year in actual dollars paid.

For 2021-22, after his bonus is paid, he's ridiculously cheap. $6.2M average per year in actual dollars paid.