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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:48 PM ET
I would take Nylander in a heartbeat. I like his skill set but that $7M cap hit over the next five seasons is just dumb.

You won’t get much value in a trade. Like you said, he’s a leaf until that contract expires.

- bloatedmosquito



This is just stupid. your team is paying Eriksson almost as much. Idiotic take. He' s 24 and just had 31 goals. He's signed in his prime. Teams will line-up for him.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 10 @ 8:50 PM ET
well at the leafs have.........the raps to watch and learn from on how to play a system, compete night in and night out, play defense and maybe go deep in a playoffs.

Toronto is a basketball town now.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 8:54 PM ET
Never go full roger
- Fakepartofme



I knew you’d say that!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
Things keep getting better in Toronto
Wtf!

https://twitter.com/blogT.../1292841816681852929?s=19
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 10 @ 8:57 PM ET
I knew you’d say that!
- Steven_Seagull

Well....its so true
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:00 PM ET
Things keep getting better in Toronto
Wtf!

https://twitter.com/blogT.../1292841816681852929?s=19

- Fakepartofme


I'll avoid that beach.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 10 @ 9:02 PM ET
Hey At least Marleau taught the core how to win though.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 10 @ 9:04 PM ET
Hey At least Marleau taught the core how to win though.
- dozerD10

*shots fired*
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 10 @ 9:05 PM ET
Things keep getting better in Toronto
Wtf!

https://twitter.com/blogT.../1292841816681852929?s=19

- Fakepartofme

Well if it’s consolation a guy beat a doctor to death with a hammer in red deer this morning.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Aug 10 @ 9:08 PM ET
This is just stupid. your team is paying Eriksson almost as much. Idiotic take. He' s 24 and just had 31 goals. He's signed in his prime. Teams will line-up for him.
- RogerRoeper


They wouldn’t have too if dubas wasn’t stupidly handing Marner 11mil and 12mil to Tavares (when leafs already had 2 solid top six centres and only 1 good dman)
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
Hey At least Marleau taught the core how to win though.
- dozerD10


His fans will post some photos of him making funny faces with matthews and marner to prove he's a great leader.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
Why is that?

your opinion correct.

would be nice he had a cap hit 5.5 mil but that's why he held out to get a nicer pay day

- zazzle


I’m no leaf expert but didn’t management have all the leverage in contract negotiations? If he held out so what? Let him sit.

I don’t think he’s a catalyst for this team. He’s talented and adds scoring depth. If I managed a franchise he’s not the player I’d build around. To me he’s just a solid piece to the roster puzzle.

That contract (paired with other high end contracts) puts undue pressure on management to be creative in filling the rest of the roster out. As we all know, most management teams in the NHL are not that creative so in reality these contracts become a liability.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 10 @ 9:11 PM ET
I’m no leaf expert but didn’t management have all the leverage in contract negotiations? If he held out so what? Let him sit.

I don’t think he’s a catalyst for this team. He’s talented and adds scoring depth. If I managed a franchise he’s not the player I’d build around. To me he’s just a solid piece to the roster puzzle.

That contract (paired with other high end contracts) puts undue pressure on management to be creative in filling the rest of the roster out. As we all know, most management teams in the NHL are not that creative so in reality these contracts become a liability.

- bloatedmosquito

If he did the little things well he would be well worth it.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:13 PM ET
Nylander is worth his contract. Every team in the league would take it if they could fit it in the cap.
- MisterBrown


most can’t. That’s why it will be difficult to maximize value in a trade.

You don’t trade in a vacuum. The market sets the price. If most teams can’t fit it in then the leafs will have to take something back or limit their market to those who can fit it in.

Hence why I said it will be hard to maximize value.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 9:17 PM ET
They wouldn’t have too if dubas wasn’t stupidly handing Marner 11mil and 12mil to Tavares (when leafs already had 2 solid top six centres and only 1 good dman)
- sensarmy_11



12 million for Tavares, eh?
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 9:22 PM ET
most can’t. That’s why it will be difficult to maximize value in a trade.

You don’t trade in a vacuum. The market sets the price. If most teams can fit it in then the leafs will have to take something back or limit their market to those who can fit it in.

Hence why I said it will be hard to maximize value.

- bloatedmosquito



Nylander + Liljegren for Ekblad
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 10 @ 9:22 PM ET
They wouldn’t have too if dubas wasn’t stupidly handing Marner 11mil and 12mil to Tavares (when leafs already had 2 solid top six centres and only 1 good dman)
- sensarmy_11


Do you actually know anything?

Or just pull numbers out your ass?

wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Aug 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
Do you actually know anything?

Or just pull numbers out your ass?

- Leafs43

lol. ask him what he thinks a max contract is.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
Do you actually know anything?

Or just pull numbers out your ass?

- Leafs43

He’s pathetic
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 9:25 PM ET
lol. ask him what he thinks a max contract is.
- wingz4life



It’s a contract approved by Max. Even Roger knows that.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 10 @ 9:28 PM ET
He’s pathetic
- Santo_44


Ya. Good trolls know the facts.



Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:30 PM ET
most can’t. That’s why it will be difficult to maximize value in a trade.

You don’t trade in a vacuum. The market sets the price. If most teams can’t fit it in then the leafs will have to take something back or limit their market to those who can fit it in.

Hence why I said it will be hard to maximize value.

- bloatedmosquito



And for potential trading partners. or just for the Leafs? your description is a better fit for ufas
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:32 PM ET
If he did the little things well he would be well worth it.
- aminnes


Very true. But most times he doesn’t. That’s why he’s always the target of fan trade scenarios. If his contract was a tad more reasonable I think most in here could overlook his shortcomings.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Aug 10 @ 10:02 PM ET
I'll bite

Marner for Werenski and J. Anderson

Sign Lehner or trade Freddy for Keumper(ARZ saves 2.5 million next season)

Hyman-AM-Nylander
Micky-JT-Anderson
Robertson-Kerfoot-Kapanen
a combo of UFA signings and Spezza

Rielly-Werenski
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Dermott
Lehtonen

Kuemper
Campbell

Oh and if the Leafs get Laf tonight I am moving Marner out west to the best offer on a defensemen. I don't care if the Leafs lose the deal a bit.

- Santo_44

The Blue Jackets aren’t trading Werenski. Nor are they trading Jones... yet. Plus, Werenski is more valuable then Marner, so I’m absolutely not adding a player to the deal if I’m Columbus.

Rather have a top pairing defenseman then Marner. Most teams think that way. You have to draft them and pray they develop.


aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 10 @ 10:03 PM ET
Very true. But most times he doesn’t. That’s why he’s always the target of fan trade scenarios. If his contract was a tad more reasonable I think most in here could overlook his shortcomings.
- bloatedmosquito

Not me. To win the cup teams need all hands on deck. No passengers.
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