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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
fixed, yes
- senstroll

If the Leafs get Laf, Marner is gone for sure.

They could do wonders with that cap space.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Aug 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
The superstar C addition made them a poop load better. They have arguably the best 1-2 punch in the NHL.

What (frank)ed them was the Zaitzev, Martin, Malreau contracts, which Dubas had to fix by adding Ceci's 4.5 million cap hit and trading a 1st round pick. Of all things you could complain about, you are complaining about the Leafs adding a superstar C without giving any assets....excuse us for calling that a dumb take.

Who is this magical 1D the Leafs could of added? If a top 2 D comes available they can offload Marner for him. Why? Because that is what it will cost. Signing JT didn't hinder this team.

- Santo_44

at least we agree one of them needs to go. i don't really care if its Snake or Marner.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
don't worry guys …you've got johnny T #91 on your jersey and 2 in your shorts
HE WAS THE MISSING PIECE TO YOUR CUP PUZZLE...you guys had the cup parade planned out when you signed this non winne

relax buddy - Isles aren't going anywhere soon - I actually like the Isles & Long Island.
your lack of RESPECT for JT amazes me. fack off!

- paulozz


What the (frank) is happening here?



ToMaLe
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Land, SK
Joined: 10.09.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
in a perfect situation he doesnt get into the series.
but there is maybe 1 or 2 other options...not a dozen or more

- senstroll

Says the idiot that knows Fk all!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Whispers aplenty that they will cancel the NCAA football season:

https://thebulwark.com/co...-college-football-season/

- Atomic Wedgie



look what that orange buffoon did to the US...extended the economic problems for years.

built the wall he wanted....just by being a giant (frank) up
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 10 @ 3:43 PM ET
Kapanen for Seth Jones!!!
- ThundernLightning

I'm guessing Jones lived in Toronto from the age of 2 to 4.

So obviously there's maybe a picture of him sleeping in Leafs sheets.

Possibly.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Aug 10 @ 3:43 PM ET
Time to change the way the team is structured cap wise. Less money up front, more money on the back end. The other most popular complaints (lack of heart, sandpaper, etc.) can be accomplished at the same time.

I mean it's really not that complicated when you look at it like that, and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and no vested interest in the outcome like me. 🤷‍♂️

- joel878

agree with that. that's all i'm trying to say.
ThundernLightning
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.12.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'm guessing Jones lived in Toronto from the age of 2 to 4.

So obviously there's maybe a picture of him sleeping in Leafs sheets.

Possibly.

- Atomic Wedgie


He was just on The Fan 590 and said hes always dreamed of being a Leaf
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:44 PM ET
Says the idiot that knows Fk all!
- ToMaLe



hi
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 3:44 PM ET
Forward group I would like to see next year.

Without Lafreniere:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Anderson
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Bennett
Barabanov-Engvall-Spezza

With Lafreniere:

Lafreniere-Matthews-Anderson
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Hyman-Bennett-Mikheyev (an actual shutdown line )
Barabanov-Engvall-Jagr
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
Biitch Marner should be the one traded. Played in the playoffs as soft as i have ever seen a player play. Jmo.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
He was just on The Fan 590 and said hes always dreamed of being a Leaf
- ThundernLightning

Really?

What kind of idiot would say that in the middle of a playoff run?

Cancel the Jones for Kapanen trade.

I don't want this Jones guy if he isn't 100% loyal.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
stroman opting out...what a poopty trade that ended up for the mets...Jays manag. got poop on pretty bad for getting nothing for him

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
In the end, the Mets traded Anthony Kay, who's already a serviceable major league pitcher, and Simeon Woods-Richardson, who scouts really like and think can be a good major league starter, for 11 games of Marcus Stroman on what wound up being a third-place team.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
Time to change the way the team is structured cap wise. Less money up front, more money on the back end. The other most popular complaints (lack of heart, sandpaper, etc.) can be accomplished at the same time.

I mean it's really not that complicated when you look at it like that, and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and no vested interest in the outcome like me. 🤷‍♂️

- joel878


And I completely agree if you’re talking about widgets where you can move $x from one place to another. It’s got to be a pretty (frank)ed trade market right now and to anything significant you better be sure if what’s coming back.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
Biitch Marner should be the one traded. Played in the playoffs as soft as i have ever seen a player play. Jmo.
- bixll

I'm a bear of very little brain, but I don't see any other path forward.

Sure, you could trade Nylander, but that doesn't get you the cap space you truly need.

Matthews and Tavares aren't going anywhere.

And Leaf fans' fantasies about Kapanen and Johnsson getting you a quality d-man in return are ridiculous.

I hope Dubas proves me wrong.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 10 @ 3:48 PM ET
Perfect scenerio

Leafs draft Laf

Sign Petro 7x9

trade Marner to NJ for 7th overall, 18th overall, 21st overall, Carrick

AJ for J. Anderson

trade one of the top prospects for a D at the deadline

*Wins cup
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Aug 10 @ 3:49 PM ET
Forward group I would like to see next year.

Without Lafreniere:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Anderson
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Bennett
Barabanov-Engvall-Spezza

With Lafreniere:

Lafreniere-Matthews-Anderson
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Hyman-Bennett-Mikheyev (an actual shutdown line )
Barabanov-Engvall-Jagr

- Steven_Seagull


Marner - 0 goals 4 assists 24:39 TOI/g
Nylander 2 goals 2 assists 20:13 TOI/g

and you want to trade Nylander. Marner makes over 4 Mill more per season than Nylander.

Nylander can play center and wing. Marner can only play wing. Nylander was going to the dirty areas to score. Marner was on the perimeter skating around without purpose like a water bug.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 10 @ 3:49 PM ET
look what that orange buffoon did to the US...extended the economic problems for years.

built the wall he wanted....just by being a giant (frank) up

- senstroll


US Department of State lifts travel advisory saying it is now safe to travel to countries that won’t let Americans in.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 3:50 PM ET
I'm a bear of very little brain, but I don't see any other path forward.

Sure, you could trade Nylander, but that doesn't get you the cap space you truly need.

Matthews and Tavares aren't going anywhere.

And Leaf fans' fantasies about Kapanen and Johnsson getting you a quality d-man in return are ridiculous.

I hope Dubas proves me wrong.

- Atomic Wedgie



Kapanen+Dermott+2021 2nd can get any D in the league, my boi.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Aug 10 @ 3:51 PM ET
Perfect scenerio

Leafs draft Laf

Sign Petro 7x9

trade Marner to NJ for 7th overall, 18th overall, 21st overall, Carrick

AJ for J. Anderson

trade one of the top prospects for a D at the deadline

*Wins cup

- Santo_44

Marner will get you exactly 1 first rounder.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
oh man, iv done a 180 on Torts...he has really changed up his image..used to see him as a hot head ...jerk face

hard not to like him
https://twitter.com/Jacki...tatus/1292905677309063168

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
Weird thing is I’m less upset this year. Somehow less invested in this. Seemed more like a pop up tournament without the regular season build up.

Weird thing about series was how king it took JT to get going and the fact that guys like Hyman and Soup never really got going. Nylander and Marner are easy and regular targets but the guys you normally count on weren’t really there.

- Canada Cup


When you are talking about the give-a-poop factor, Tavares and Marner are 1/1A. I doubt Matthews or Nylander was disappointed for more than about 5 minutes, even if Matthews was easily the best player on the ice.

Marner had a horrible game 1 and then some bad luck, but he was working his ass off and you know he wants to be here. If you have to trade one of the 4, trade Nylander. Besides his is the easiest contract to move. I also think Marner looks a lot better if some guys could hit the net or bury a chance every now and then.

Don't be surprised if none of the 4 are traded and the Leafs pick up some low-end dmen again, hoping Sandin and Liljegren can contribute.

It takes a while to build a contender. The core is still very young on this team.
ThundernLightning
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.12.2008

Aug 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
Kapanen+Dermott+2021 2nd can get any D in the league, my boi.
- Steven_Seagull


For that haul the other team would probably even retain some salary
Jello Bialowas
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Diana Ross is my Mom - On
Joined: 05.30.2018

Aug 10 @ 3:53 PM ET
Plonk and Lowry from the Peg for ? Big body with grit up the middle who can grind and right shot d with upside

Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 10 @ 3:53 PM ET
For that haul the other team would probably even retain some salary
- ThundernLightning



This guy gets it. You can stay. For now...
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