Andersen played well and didnt cost the team the series, but the leafs need more from him, they depend on their goalie too much and he wasnt up to the task.
They needed him to win the series for them.
- Fakepartofme

maybe convince Holtby or someone to come here for cheaper...

There's gonna be some cap casualties for sure.

Killorn has no protection and his stock is high, so he's probably gone.

Palat, Johnson, and Gourde all have some movement protection, but must also be under consideration if they agree to waive. Personally, I would keep Palat over the others.

Foote can take a D spot on the 3rd pair at a league minimum, so that frees up a little space.

Beyond that, it's going to be interesting.
- GalacticStone

yeah , depth is going to take a hit

Your prediction of the Leafs winning the cup was a little off in the end.

I could make fun of you, but I just hope you might learn from this.

- Scabeh

Andersen played well and didnt cost the team the series, but the leafs need more from him, they depend on their goalie too much and he wasnt up to the task.
They needed him to win the series for them.
- Fakepartofme

That weak one just crushed them last night.

I know all about playing with bad goalies and how letting in a weak one destroys confidence.

Oh, Lordy Lordy Lordy, I know all about it.

I am not blaming Andersen...But he really wasn't great.

He didn't suck like he has in the past but that's not good enough.

He is owed 1 million for next season...Can you work out a deal for Keumper or Rant in Arizona? They''d be saving 2-3 million in the deal.
- Santo_44

anderson was good.... jackets G, were the best in the play ins

also..the Leafs had good D results...probably based on the poor offence cbj have.

the leafs were just shut down at 5v5

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Interestingly at 5v5 across the opening round the Leafs ranked:

2nd in xGA60
2nd in HDCA60
4th in HDSv%

All good defensive results.

3rd in CF60
2nd in SCF60 (good offensive result)

23rd in SCSh% (out of 24 teams)
22nd in HDSh%
24th in 5v5 Sh%

Atrocious finishing.

Andersen played well and didnt cost the team the series, but the leafs need more from him, they depend on their goalie too much and he wasnt up to the task.
They needed him to win the series for them.
- Fakepartofme

That... And a lot of teams have proven success is capable without a big ticket goaltender. A more well rounded team and you shouldn't have to rely on your goaltender every night.

It's been awhile since I can remember a goalie legit carrying his team to a cup. 🤔

I can't think of any scenario for this team where having a 7-9 million per goaltender (or whatever he's going to get paid) is sufficient for this team's build.

Holy Mackinaw the Leafs have so many generational players but still lose.

Holy Mackinaw the Leafs have so many generational players but still lose.
- islansjet

Good one.

On JT..and how he cost the leafs Kadri....

I think it would have been a unanimous yes if you said you can have Tavares, Kerfoot and Barrie for Kadri and 1st (and Marleau dump)

if you are being fair.

even the one now saying how he cost too much...

That... And a lot of teams have proven success is capable without a big ticket goaltender. A more well rounded team and you shouldn't have to rely on your goaltender every night.

It's been awhile since I can remember a goalie legit carrying his team to a cup. 🤔

I can't think of any scenario for this team where having a 7-9 million per goaltender (or whatever he's going to get paid) is sufficient for this team's build.
- joel878

Patrick Roy in 1993? Hasek in 1999 but Buffalo lost.

Holy Mackinaw the Leafs have so many generational players but still lose.
- islansjet

None of them on defence.

That... And a lot of teams have proven success is capable without a big ticket goaltender. A more well rounded team and you shouldn't have to rely on your goaltender every night.

It's been awhile since I can remember a goalie legit carrying his team to a cup. 🤔

I can't think of any scenario for this team where having a 7-9 million per goaltender (or whatever he's going to get paid) is sufficient for this team's build.
- joel878

Cam Ward?

Changes need to be made. For starters they need a new mascot. A politically correct female one. They should call her Miss Playoff.
Haha Leafs. Sucks to Suck.
- Jp11

You know youre an Ottawa fan right?

Holy Mackinaw the Leafs have so many generational players but still lose.
- islansjet

I really don't know what Dubas is going to do.

Marner should be on the table but I don't see any 1 for 1s that would make much sense.

Ekblad makes sense but the money doesn't for Florida.

Can he get creative on salary retention? or add another team in the mix?

You know youre an Ottawa fan right?
- Archaic

I do have to admit, that's a pretty good zinger.

Okay, okay, okay: Leafs in 7.

Lost a hundred bucks on that too. Dang. Disappointing!

If anyone needs me I'll be sitting Zazen in the forest, and getting pegged by a unicorn.

GO LEAFS GO

I do have to admit, that's a pretty good zinger.
- Atomic Wedgie

This year is interesting, I am not half as pissed this year as in the past years at the result. Honestly, with how this whole season has shaped up, its really not a big deal compared to the previous ones due to the pandameic.


Trolls really have no impact, especially considering most of them have been from crappy teams.

I really don't know what Dubas is going to do.

Marner should be on the table but I don't see any 1 for 1s that would make much sense.

Ekblad makes sense but the money doesn't for Florida.
- Santo_44

Before this series began a few Leafs fans here floated the idea of Seth Jones for Mitch Marner. Obviously the Blue Jackets would never make this trade.

But what about Zach Werenski for Marner? Leafs need a young stud defenseman to play with Rielly. Columbus needs more scoring and they already have Jones.

Leafs would shed some Cap in the process. Dubas could use that to address other needs.

Thoughts?

Cam Ward?
- Atomic Wedgie

He posted a .920 during those playoffs and, yeah, he was great, but the team also scored 2.92 goals per game that playoffs, same as the Oilers did, and their powerplay was clicking at 22.5%

I really don't know what Dubas is going to do.

Marner should be on the table but I don't see any 1 for 1s that would make much sense.

Ekblad makes sense but the money doesn't for Florida.

Can he get creative on salary retention? or add another team in the mix?
- Santo_44

Reality is there's a million things he could do. Which, despite all the heat he's taking on here... Is a positive indicator of the work he's done since taking control of the team. Stupid people may say otherwise, but the bulk of the roster if not the whole thing is very trade able.

Everyone is going to say he should do something different. Each individual person will be right I'm sure.

I just hope it's not more of the one dimensional variety. They need to move forward with the understanding the team needs more facets to their game. Because if you (frank) that up now, the next realization won't be when the team is in as good of a spot.

I really don't know what Dubas is going to do.

Marner should be on the table but I don't see any 1 for 1s that would make much sense.

Ekblad makes sense but the money doesn't for Florida.

Can he get creative on salary retention? or add another team in the mix?
- Santo_44

Actually, the money makes a lot of sense for Florida.

The day after Mitchy receives his signing bonus for 2020-21, they can trade him to Florida.

Florida gets him for 5 years, with an average salary (real dollars, not cap hit) of $7 million per year.

That's pretty tempting.

Before this series began a few Leafs fans here floated the idea of Seth Jones for Mitch Marner. Obviously the Blue Jackets would never make this trade.

But what about Zach Werenski for Marner? Leafs need a young stud defenseman to play with Rielly. Columbus needs more scoring and they already have Jones.

Leafs would shed some Cap in the process. Dubas could use that to address other needs.

Thoughts?
- gergeswillems

It is tough because the Leafs lose on that trade in terms of talent.

One thought that is crossing my mind is signing Petro and trading Marner for a forward plus picks.

This year is interesting, I am not half as pissed this year as in the past years at the result. Honestly, with how this whole season has shaped up, its really not a big deal compared to the previous ones due to the pandameic.


Trolls really have no impact, especially considering most of them have been from crappy teams.
- Archaic

We'll see how I feel in the coming weeks, but right now, I have zero interest in watching the playoffs.

Maybe if a Canadian team advances, I'll jump on a bandwagon.

Actually, the money makes a lot of sense for Florida.

The day after Mitchy receives his signing bonus for 2020-21, they can trade him to Florida.

Florida gets him for 5 years, with an average salary (real dollars, not cap hit) of $7 million per year.

That's pretty tempting.
- Atomic Wedgie

Florida loses out on about 3 million I think.

They'd have to really believe they are getting the better player.

Plus are they comfortable with leaving their D core in the hands of two 35 year olds and Matheson?