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Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 10 @ 8:00 PM ET
Fox looks like he’s going to be a good player though. Don’t they have K’Andre Miller too?
- Ftown19125

Yep.
Their offense is pretty well cemented outside of some role players. Their goalie sure looks set for a long time. They can just focus on defense and fine tuning, and they’ll be trouble sooner than later.

The Penguins were on their way out. The Flyers, Rangers, and Canes will be tough for some time in the Metro.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:04 PM ET
I am not a ghost fan. But if he plays the way he did last game yes. There’s only two teams I see Haag starting and that’s Washington and Boston. Just due to size and hitting.
- Peter Richards


If Gostisbehere plays like that every game no need to play Haag. No need for the size and hitting.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:06 PM ET
Rags defense sucks so I’m not worried. I’m glad the pick didn’t go to the Leafs as they’d be able to fix their team by trading that pick. And I’m glad the pick didn’t go to the Pens because (frank) the Pens.
- hereticpride



Rangers are building a quality team that just got another top chip. I see a long inter division rivalry forming.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
Rankings of the best team for Lafreniere to go to.

1. Wild
2. Winnipeg
3. Nashville
4. Florida
5. Edmonton
6. Toronto
7. Pittsburgh
8. NY Rangers

- PLindbergh31



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 10 @ 8:25 PM ET
lol you said this about Hughes and Kakko too.
- Ftown19125


And he was pretty much correct about the point totals.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 10 @ 8:28 PM ET
Could Rangers use a center more? Already have Kakko and Panarin at wing for foreseeable future.
- arichardson22


Yes, they needed a center more. Mika had one great year but he plays more like a winger than a center.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yes, they needed a center more. Mika had one great year but he plays more like a winger than a center.
- PT21


Maybe they'll pass on the top rated player, huh?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Aug 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
And he was pretty much correct about the point totals.
- MBFlyerfan


Yeah, he was pretty much dead on.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Aug 10 @ 8:53 PM ET
Yep.
Their offense is pretty well cemented outside of some role players. Their goalie sure looks set for a long time. They can just focus on defense and fine tuning, and they’ll be trouble sooner than later.

The Penguins were on their way out. The Flyers, Rangers, and Canes will be tough for some time in the Metro.

- Hesh_


Isles have a good team too. And with Sorokin and Trotz, can’t rule them out anytime soon.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 10 @ 9:12 PM ET
Rags defense sucks so I’m not worried. I’m glad the pick didn’t go to the Leafs as they’d be able to fix their team by trading that pick. And I’m glad the pick didn’t go to the Pens because (frank) the Pens.
- hereticpride

Leafs wouldn’t trade the pick. They’d likely move forward depth for defense and keep the young player they drafted
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:34 PM ET
Leafs wouldn’t trade the pick. They’d likely move forward depth for defense and keep the young player they drafted
- SuperSchennBros

True. It would probably cost them Marner to land a top D man. I’m not sure JT would be easy to move to most teams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:36 PM ET
True. It would probably cost them Marner to land a top D man. I’m not JT would be easy to move to most teams.
- hereticpride



Teams are very reluctant to give up top young elite defenseman. It happens but it's rare. Really have to draft them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:37 PM ET
Teams are very reluctant to give up top young elite defenseman. It happens but it's rare. Really have to draft them.
- MJL

Trust me. I know after watching Homer trying to get one. I tried to tell the Leafs thread this and they seem to think they can get one for Nylander+ lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 10 @ 9:42 PM ET
Trust me. I know after watching Homer trying to get one. I tried to tell the Leafs thread this and they seem to think they can get one for Nylander+ lol
- hereticpride


What's the plus? Marner?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 9:47 PM ET
What's the plus? Marner?

- MJL

I know, right? I hope they get the Luke Schenn end of whatever move they make lol
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 10 @ 10:15 PM ET


Isn't lafrenierre a wing ? Rangers may decide they need center more and pick byfield cause you know size. And that would be dumb. So here's hoping.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 10 @ 10:16 PM ET
Trust me. I know after watching Homer trying to get one. I tried to tell the Leafs thread this and they seem to think they can get one for Nylander+ lol
- hereticpride


Only time I've ever seen this successfully pulled off was when columbus got Seth Jones.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 10 @ 10:16 PM ET
True. It would probably cost them Marner to land a top D man. I’m not sure JT would be easy to move to most teams.
- hereticpride

I don’t think the Leafs would be looking to move the number one pick if they got it or their Captain. I would argue John Tavares was the only player who brought it every series, even ahead of Matthews.

I think Nylander really is the odd man out.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:09 PM ET
Isn't lafrenierre a wing ? Rangers may decide they need center more and pick byfield cause you know size. And that would be dumb. So here's hoping.
- Tfaehner

They’ll overpay for a player on their way out of their prime. It’s the Rangers way.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
I don’t think the Leafs would be looking to move the number one pick if they got it or their Captain. I would argue John Tavares was the only player who brought it every series, even ahead of Matthews.

I think Nylander really is the odd man out.

- SuperSchennBros

Yeah, if I was them I’d be trying to move him. I don’t think they’re gonna be happy with the return tho.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Aug 11 @ 12:52 AM ET
Yeah, if I was them I’d be trying to move him. I don’t think they’re gonna be happy with the return tho.
- hereticpride

They’re not dealing from a position of strength, in that everyone knows of their troubles so they’ll have to overpay to get what they want.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 11 @ 3:06 AM ET
Trust me. I know after watching Homer trying to get one. I tried to tell the Leafs thread this and they seem to think they can get one for Nylander+ lol
- hereticpride



I read one guy think they could get Phil Myers from us for Kapanen.

I'd like Kapanen as a role player, but he can barely make their 3rd line, and they want a more than capable young second-pairing defenseman for him.

Others over there liked the idea, but I didn't respond. He had a whole lotta crazy fixes to all of a sudden fix everything and giving up little
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 11 @ 3:42 AM ET
so much for that. i had to respond.

it would be cool to have Kapanen, and at one time I did want him here, but I like our Fs, and we have plenty of guys who fill that role who cost nothing that don't require protecting when Seattle poaches somebody

Myers is becoming a solid, young 2nd pairing defenseman, and a wing bumped around in the middle 6 isn't gonna cut it, no matter how much we liked his pop
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 11 @ 6:31 AM ET
so much for that. i had to respond.

it would be cool to have Kapanen, and at one time I did want him here, but I like our Fs, and we have plenty of guys who fill that role who cost nothing that don't require protecting when Seattle poaches somebody

Myers is becoming a solid, young 2nd pairing defenseman, and a wing bumped around in the middle 6 isn't gonna cut it, no matter how much we liked his pop

- Hesh_


I like Kapanen as a middle-6 winger who could play in all manpower situations. I really do, and I'd love him on the Flyers. But if you want a young top-4 dman, it's gonna cost more than a middle-6 winger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 11 @ 6:41 AM ET
Here's hoping that Alexis Lafrenière is the best Patrick Daigle since Patrik Stefan.

Edit: Was trying to think of former players similar to Patrik Stefan to check stats against. The first player that came to mind was Mark Bell and, oddly enough, their stats are eerily almost identical (Bell more of a goal scorer)
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