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Aug 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YM5zUwiCTzw Her own words. - Therat36
You continue to either miss the point or fail to comprehend it. As i wrote earlier:
A Marxist analysis does not necessarily equate to a communist solution to a perceived problem. Looking at who has control of capital to determine how to leverage a position is an entirely pragmatic way of looking at a set of circumstances. Advocating for forced detention of those with capital and other communist policies? That's a different story. But since we've lost the middle in this country, I have not doubt those solutions might be on the table, as well as other more rash solutions from the right. Be sure to get yours as it continues to fall apart.
One of the things about this moron is his complete lack of reasoning skills.
I post saying Marxist =/ violence, so saying BLM is Marxist is not the same as BLM = violent.
So what does he do?
He posts two articles, saying BLM = Marxist.
And what stellar sources too.
Here is a quote from the first one:
“In this affirmation,” the post continued. “The Black Lives Matter Global Network adopts and promotes the entire worldview of the sexual revolution, which seeks to liberate humanity from the oppressive chains of biological gender. They seek to ‘foster a queer-affirming network,’” Mohler wrote.
And there you have it, folks. It boils down to the same deep-rooted fear that has driven these cuckoos for the last fifty years: someone, somewhere, is planning to put a penis in their anus. - PT21
This is the normal far left liberal response when confronted with reason and fact. You failed with your petulant and childish rant. The Black Live Matter movement has a Marxist ideology. That's a fact.
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Aug 4 @ 1:56 PM ET
You continue to either miss the point or fail to comprehend it. As i wrote earlier:
A Marxist analysis does not necessarily equate to a communist solution to a perceived problem. Looking at who has control of capital to determine how to leverage a position is an entirely pragmatic way of looking at a set of circumstances. Advocating for forced detention of those with capital and other communist policies? That's a different story. But since we've lost the middle in this country, I have not doubt those solutions might be on the table, as well as other more rash solutions from the right. Be sure to get yours as it continues to fall apart.
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Aug 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
I give these guys a ton of credit to keep politics out of it. Politics and the divisive nature of that debate becomes the story instead of the real issue of human rights...which transcends whoever is in (or running for) office. Just another example of how these players just kind of "get it." - Eklund
I give these guys a ton of credit to keep politics out of it. Politics and the divisive nature of that debate becomes the story instead of the real issue of human rights...which transcends whoever is in (or running for) office. Just another example of how these players just kind of "get it."
Eklund, can you please clarify how these guys are keeping politics out of it? "Its another example of how these players just kind of get it"...what?
When asked what he was supporting, Richardinson said: "Black Lives Matter, equality, justice. You can pick the term. It really doesn't matter. I don't need to sit here and take a stab at all of the issues. Just educate yourself, look into things, watch documentaries, talk to people."
Yes Jason, please educate yourself. You don't need to sit there and take a stab at all of the issues...perhaps you should educate yourself as to what you're taking a knee for.
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Aug 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Eklund, can you please clarify how these guys are keeping politics out of it? "Its another example of how these players just kind of get it"...what?
Yes Jason, please educate yourself. You don't need to sit there and take a stab at all of the issues...perhaps you should educate yourself as to what you're taking a knee for. - rmnyi
Hopefully the destruction of the capitalist structure. Time to break out the guillotines!
What did he say that was wrong? Refute it point by point. - Letterkenney
Are you actually serious here?
Do you believe black people have an equal opportunity to attend good schools, get good jobs with equal pay etc? If your answer is "yes they do" then you seriously need to go do actual research, or even better go to the websites of the biggest companies in your region, and look at their leadership - if it was equal, more often than not it should be there too (let me save you some time - It's not)
If you believe "no they don't" then that's where it begins -
Their parents would've had a harder time getting a job, maybe had to work two.
which means less parenting. Kids watch their parents struggle to make ends meet and take a perceived easier way because they don't believe they have a shot either. Leads to crime
Crime in the US as a black person leads to longer/harsher punishment https://www.sentencingpro...rt-on-racial-disparities/ go to section C "sentencing"
this means they're less likely to make it out of the system and integrated back into society because the US prison system is about making money https://www.sentencingpro...rowth-in-private-prisons/
Elevated crime stats and the other things listed in the post are "outcomes" of centries long systemic oppression and racism. If you don't address the root problem you never fix the outcomes.
So if kneeling during an anthem ruffles enough feathers for others to look at what's been happening to the black community forever. Then I'm all for it, they've tried telling people over and over it was happening to no avail.
So if kneeling during an anthem ruffles enough feathers for others to look at what's been happening to the black community forever. Then I'm all for it, they're tried telling people over and over it was happening to no avail. - InglewoodJack77
I agree with everything you said in your post but do you really believe that kneeling is actually going to change anything? How about all the money that corporations and sports like the NFL is throwing around? Actually going to do anything? We've spent trillions to try and combat poverty. Very little of it actually went to poor people. We need to stop wasting time kneeling and debating it and actually doing something that will actually change things and make a difference.
There are two separate issues here that are confronting the NHL. One is the treatment of minority players during their hockey careers (Juniors on up) as explained by Aliu and others. They deserve to be heard and to be treated equally as others. I have no problem with that.
The second issue is Black Lives Matters and all that they represent. Not only is BLM based upon several lies, they are a hate group, a Marxist organization, that has repeatedly called for and glorified the killing of Police Officers. Their most famous "spokesperson" is Colin Kaepernick who has glorified several cop killers on his social media pages and donated money to organizations named for Cop Killer. I have zero respect for him and others like him.
The mass media, in its infinite penchant to distribute Yellow Journalism, has failed to present facts that show the other side. To wit, if you were to read the FBI UCI stats, you would find that for the past 20+ years the US has seen, on average, 160 Police Officers assaulted every day or 1 every 9 minutes of every day of every year. 47 of those Officers have been killed or injured every day or 1 every 30 minutes. Officers have been shot every 3 hours and 43 minutes on average, stabbed every 8 hours, injured or killed with what the FBI describes as "dangerous weapons" every 75 minutes, and the rest are hands and feet. Lest you think "unarmed men" are not dangerous, they kill more people each year than all rifles and shotguns combined and more in any 2 consecutive years than in all of the mass shootings with assault rifles over the past 60 years.
In less than 2% of the times an Officer is assaulted is a suspect killed and in less than 6% of the times an Officer is killed or injured is a suspect killed. The problem is not Police Violence; it is Violence against the Police .. and the majority perpetrators of Violence against the Police are "People of Color" who have walked up to Officers and killed them or set them up in ambushes in virtually every State of the US.
For several years now, there has been a movement from the Left across North America to do everything possible to eliminate any consequences for criminal actions committed by "Underserved" or "People of Color". California eliminated penalties for those participating in crimes where someone is shot, several States have reduced penalties for burglaries and have seen the rates for those skyrocket, eliminate cash bail and have seen crime rates skyrocket, and now the want to defund the police. Minneapolis Police just announced that the populace should cooperate with criminals and give up their hard earned assets because they can't protect them any longer. Be prepared to see that coming to a City near you unless we change our way of thinking.
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Aug 4 @ 2:36 PM ET
Such an irrelevant stat. There are more white people than black people. The Percentage of blacks in the U.S is like 13.4% whereas the Percentage for Whites is 60.4% according to google.
The problem has nothing to do with how many are killed the problem is why they have been killed. George Floyd is a perfect example. There is absolutely no need to kneel on his neck. Witnesses as well as the victim all claimed he couldnt breathe yet the officer did not care. What you have to look at is how many deaths there were that were unjustified. Many unarmed people of colour are shot and killed while unarmed. The police department is so corrupt that you cant even sue the police for wrong doing and win.
It has also been reported that the destruction and fires that were connected to the protests were actually started by the Police to make the protesters the bad guys. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
I've not heard anyone that has even come close to defending the actions of the officer to knelt on Mr. Floyd. He has been and deserves to be condemned for his actions.
You are right in saying that the absolute numbers are not really relevant, but bringing up the total populations of each group is equally as irrelevant. The important stat to look at is the number of people in each group that are having aggressive interactions with the police (for this particular discussion).
It cannot be disregarded that there is a disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by one particular group. You also have to look at the deaths vs the total number of interactions to try and determine how widespread the problem is. It also is not insignificant to look at the number of officers that are killed at the hands of violent offenders (of any race).
The first bolded is a very important question. Is it poor training, mental state, racism, personal, etc? These are all things that need to be addressed.
The second bolded is pure speculation. There is a mountain of evidence (video footage and reporting) showing that rioters (not to be confused with peaceful protesters, as I believe they are two distinct groups) destroyed properties, started fires, and in some cases attacked people. I won't rule out the possibility that it may have happened, but without evidence, the claim is dubious at best.
I agree with everything you said in your post but do you really believe that kneeling is actually going to change anything? How about all the money that corporations and sports like the NFL is throwing around? Actually going to do anything? We've spent trillions to try and combat poverty. Very little of it actually went to poor people. We need to stop wasting time kneeling and debating it and actually doing something that will actually change things and make a difference. - MJL
Funny how silent people like Dom hasek have Been making a difference for years and these guys on there knees have not don’t nothing ..Haseks hero’s 👍
This thread shows exactly why stuff like kneeling is so necessary. The ignorance in the United States is astonishing. It's not really their fault though since so much of their history and what's actually going on in their country is hidden from them to make them feel better about being American.
People can only be outraged about kneeling for so long before they actually look into what's actually going on and realize how clueless they've been and how they look like giant idiots for arguing against it.
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Aug 4 @ 2:44 PM ET
I agree with everything you said in your post but do you really believe that kneeling is actually going to change anything? How about all the money that corporations and sports like the NFL is throwing around? Actually going to do anything? We've spent trillions to try and combat poverty. Very little of it actually went to poor people. We need to stop wasting time kneeling and debating it and actually doing something that will actually change things and make a difference. - MJL
Agreed.
The problem is what will make an actual difference?
The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a complete re-write of your first amendment.
Other than that, change has been happening, albeit too slowly for most people's liking. Even in my lifetime I have seen significant progress. It is going to take a while.
You continue to either miss the point or fail to comprehend it. As i wrote earlier:
A Marxist analysis does not necessarily equate to a communist solution to a perceived problem. Looking at who has control of capital to determine how to leverage a position is an entirely pragmatic way of looking at a set of circumstances. Advocating for forced detention of those with capital and other communist policies? That's a different story. But since we've lost the middle in this country, I have not doubt those solutions might be on the table, as well as other more rash solutions from the right. Be sure to get yours as it continues to fall apart.
