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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 4 @ 5:33 PM ET
Furthermore I though that Trump's platform "Was to make America Great Again" and not "America is not as bad as Everyone Else".

I am really confused.

- TheUltimateJet

His ego & arrogance are well loved traits by too many. How much now is the taxpayer on the hook for at his golf courses?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:33 PM ET
1. Some are definitely worthy but much of it is just to create anarchy and destruction
2. Completely false. BLM leaders as well as other groups such as Antifa are driving the protests. As well as the progressive liberals who are bankrolling the protests and paying organizers as well as protesters to do so.
3. Also false. The majority of the protests are violent and destructive.
4. For the BLM movement, Marxism is completely relevant.

- MJL

1. Fact
2. Fact
3. Fact
4. Fact
5. Fact

Anyone diminishing or not believing these facts is just closing their eyes and stamping their feet hoping these facts just go away because theyre dug so deep into whatever nonsense they initially believed. They know everything you stated is true or they’re stupid. Period.
Benny Blanco
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Islip, Long Island, NY
Joined: 07.25.2020

Aug 4 @ 5:34 PM ET
Point being...things need to be put in perspective. America perfect? NO, BUT before protesting something, one must look around and realize that America is a pretty God dam good place to live. The protesting is over the top, and the only thing that's systemic in this country is the media bias, and their willingness to only report a one sided story.
- rrentz


You seem too have your own agenda very biased view of your Country's Place in the World. Your a laughing stock from the handling of Covid. Get over yourself.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:34 PM ET
1. Fact
2. Fact
3. Fact
4. Fact
5. Fact

Anyone diminishing or not believing these facts is just closing their eyes and stamping their feet hoping these facts just go away because theyre dug so deep into whatever nonsense they initially believed. They know everything you stated is true or they’re stupid. Period.

- Cptmjl

Those are all opinions!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
I finished reading a great book called "White Fragility". I think many people on this board would benefit from reading it!

Being racist does not mean you are a bad person, it just means that there is some information out there you are not aware of. I think if people were to actively identify their racial biases, they would be much better equipped to challenge their own thinking about race and racism. Or oppression in general.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 4 @ 5:42 PM ET
I am still trying to figure out what was so Christian about Trumps needing to have a photo opp with the bible!
- TheUltimateJet

He’s as much a christian as i am a scientologist. That being that i know there is a religion called scientology.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
Majority of the protesters are wearing masks.

Majority of the people at Trump's indoor campaign wee not!

Masks save lives!

- TheUltimateJet

Let me ask you something. Is Covid 19 an airborne virus? How does the virus actually get transmitted? Have you ever read up on any clinical trials for mask efficacy in preventing virus transmission? Are you telling me that thousands of people holding hands, sweating all over each other, in some instances attacking people physically, screaming and yelling at each other does not transmit covid 19? I know all of the answers to these questions do you?

If you did you would know just like every epidemiologist and physician knows that the virus was transmitted during protests. It didn’t not infect people because what you believed in was aligned with what they were protesting. Another question. Why did the world cave in and cries of “they’re going to kill us all” and “don’t they care about the rest of the population” and “how stupid can they be” when militia and conservative protesters were also protesting for violation of their rights. That was bad this is good and ok no virus transmission? If you actually believe that some(it’s not all btw) the protesters are wearing masks it’s going to prevent virus transmission you are completely wrong.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
I finished reading a great book called "White Fragility". I think many people on this board would benefit from reading it!

Being racist does not mean you are a bad person, it just means that there is some information out there you are not aware of. I think if people were to actively identify their racial biases, they would be much better equipped to challenge their own thinking about race and racism. Or oppression in general.

- TheUltimateJet


Which information might that be?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
I finished reading a great book called "White Fragility". I think many people on this board would benefit from reading it!

Being racist does not mean you are a bad person, it just means that there is some information out there you are not aware of. I think if people were to actively identify their racial biases, they would be much better equipped to challenge their own thinking about race and racism. Or oppression in general.

- TheUltimateJet

Ding ding! Need to create a world where it’s something you work on and learn instead that someone is a bigot forever.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
Looks like Neem got out of the crib again.

Darn it...who is watching him.....

WW1, WW2, the Chinese Cultural revolution along with Pol pot etc....

Stubborn facts.

Someone take the keyboard away from Neem. Get him a bowl of goldfish.

- TrueGrit


There is no doubt that Marxist influenced regimes have been part of some of the great monstrosities of the modern world.

And many capitalist enterprises in the past have produced tremendous suffering. This includes Colonialism, which was brought about by privately funded for-profit shareholder backed companies, such as the notorious East India Company, and slavery, where un-free human beings were sold in a free market.

Some of the highest literacy rates in the world were achieved in the state of Kerala in India, which had a long running Marxist government (at the state level). And the greatest lifting out of poverty in modern times was in China, when a Communist Part brought about a cut-throat capitalism that would make Wall Street look like a nunnery.

And of course, most of the free, advanced states are capitalist in their economy.

Human life is complicated. When someone tells you not to paint* with broad strokes is folly, and distracting from the main issues, he is not taking sides.

*Especially when you clearly don't know how to paint.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 5:45 PM ET
Let me ask you something. Is Covid 19 an airborne virus? How does the virus actually get transmitted? Have you ever read up on any clinical trials for mask efficacy in preventing virus transmission? Are you telling me that thousands of people holding hands, sweating all over each other, in some instances attacking people physically, screaming and yelling at each other does not transmit covid 19? I know all of the answers to these questions do you?

If you did you would know just like every epidemiologist and physician knows that the virus was transmitted during protests. It didn’t not infect people because what you believed in was aligned with what they were protesting. Another question. Why did the world cave in and cries of “they’re going to kill us all” and “don’t they care about the rest of the population” and “how stupid can they be” when militia and conservative protesters were also protesting for violation of their rights. That was bad this is good and ok no virus transmission? If you actually believe that some(it’s not all btw) the protesters are wearing masks it’s going to prevent virus transmission you are completely wrong.

- Cptmjl


You can burn down a church, but you can't go to one. Do you know how much different things would be if this wasn't an election year?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 4 @ 5:46 PM ET
Let me ask you something. Is Covid 19 an airborne virus? How does the virus actually get transmitted? Have you ever read up on any clinical trials for mask efficacy in preventing virus transmission? Are you telling me that thousands of people holding hands, sweating all over each other, in some instances attacking people physically, screaming and yelling at each other does not transmit covid 19? I know all of the answers to these questions do you?

If you did you would know just like every epidemiologist and physician knows that the virus was transmitted during protests. It didn’t not infect people because what you believed in was aligned with what they were protesting. Another question. Why did the world cave in and cries of “they’re going to kill us all” and “don’t they care about the rest of the population” and “how stupid can they be” when militia and conservative protesters were also protesting for violation of their rights. That was bad this is good and ok no virus transmission? If you actually believe that some(it’s not all btw) the protesters are wearing masks it’s going to prevent virus transmission you are completely wrong.

- Cptmjl



This is an issue that has been widely researched. How come infection rates did not spike in northern cities where there were huge protests?

The most plausible answer is - the protests of course caused a spike. But it was damped out by people fearful of the unrest who stayed at home.
Pelle31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Johnstown, PA
Joined: 02.13.2007

Aug 4 @ 5:46 PM ET
No matter what they say when you kneel/protest during the theme song of a country it's political. That being said it's being done much more respectful than other sports and BLM organization isn't being pushed by the league. Ending racism should be the story not giving blind support to a Marxist organization
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:48 PM ET
Let me ask you something. Is Covid 19 an airborne virus? How does the virus actually get transmitted? Have you ever read up on any clinical trials for mask efficacy in preventing virus transmission? Are you telling me that thousands of people holding hands, sweating all over each other, in some instances attacking people physically, screaming and yelling at each other does not transmit covid 19? I know all of the answers to these questions do you?

If you did you would know just like every epidemiologist and physician knows that the virus was transmitted during protests. It didn’t not infect people because what you believed in was aligned with what they were protesting. Another question. Why did the world cave in and cries of “they’re going to kill us all” and “don’t they care about the rest of the population” and “how stupid can they be” when militia and conservative protesters were also protesting for violation of their rights. That was bad this is good and ok no virus transmission? If you actually believe that some(it’s not all btw) the protesters are wearing masks it’s going to prevent virus transmission you are completely wrong.

- Cptmjl


Well transmission rates outside are less than 1%. Doing indoor activities, the infection rates go up significantly. By how much, I do not know.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:51 PM ET
Which information might that be?
- MJL

You cannot be seriously asking me this. But since you did. We all have racial biases that have been instilled in us, by family members, schooling, media and what now. Understanding these biases is important for us to move past our racist ideas.

It took lots of meditation and reading to recognize myself as a progressive person was holding onto some of these ideals. BLM has liberated me and I am much more quick to recognize a racial thoughs and feelings.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:52 PM ET
This is an issue that has been widely researched. How come infection rates did not spike in northern cities where there were huge protests?

The most plausible answer is - the protests of course caused a spike. But it was damped out by people fearful of the unrest who stayed at home.

- PT21

In New York. Most of the protesters were from out of state shipped here on buses. How do I know that? I watched it. Also watched them destroy six city blocks where both myself and family live and hop back on their buses to go back home. Also, in a place like NY covid went through the population. It transmitted through the LIRR and NY subway system and spread through the boroughs and Long Island because Cuomo and Deblasio refused to shut down both systems.

I honestly think it’s hysterical when people actually debate these protests do not cause virus transmission. I don’t even know what to say to someone that has that opinion?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:52 PM ET
You cannot be seriously asking me this. But since you did. We all have racial biases that have been instilled in us, by family members, schooling, media and what now. Understanding these biases is important for us to move past our racist ideas.

It took lots of meditation and reading to recognize myself as a progressive person was holding onto some of these ideals. BLM has liberated me and I am much more quick to recognize a though ot feeling.

- TheUltimateJet

So you’re a communist?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:53 PM ET
Well transmission rates outside are less than 1%. Doing indoor activities, the infection rates go up significantly. By how much, I do not know.
- TheUltimateJet

So you’re saying sheltering in place is a really bad idea?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:54 PM ET
So you’re a commie?
- Cptmjl

If being self-aware is what you call Commie's sure.

I should be asking you if you are a fascist!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 4 @ 5:55 PM ET
Let me ask you something. Is Covid 19 an airborne virus? How does the virus actually get transmitted? Have you ever read up on any clinical trials for mask efficacy in preventing virus transmission? Are you telling me that thousands of people holding hands, sweating all over each other, in some instances attacking people physically, screaming and yelling at each other does not transmit covid 19? I know all of the answers to these questions do you?

If you did you would know just like every epidemiologist and physician knows that the virus was transmitted during protests. It didn’t not infect people because what you believed in was aligned with what they were protesting. Another question. Why did the world cave in and cries of “they’re going to kill us all” and “don’t they care about the rest of the population” and “how stupid can they be” when militia and conservative protesters were also protesting for violation of their rights. That was bad this is good and ok no virus transmission? If you actually believe that some(it’s not all btw) the protesters are wearing masks it’s going to prevent virus transmission you are completely wrong.

- Cptmjl

Their reasons for protest were stupid, so people called them stupid. Opposite is the case, obviously black Americans felt that their rights superseded being as cautious as possible. I know there are people giving out masks and cleaning hands. Not so sure the hand holding is something ive seen. Lots of gloves. I think they know the risk and think human rights are more important. Just like the dummies who decided not wearing a mask was a human right. Even if most people think they are dumb, they’re welcome to protest.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Aug 4 @ 5:56 PM ET
There shouldn’t even be a team in Vegas and now these S-Bags are further embarrassing a sport that they are extremely fortunate to be a part of.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:56 PM ET
If being self-aware is what you call Commie's sure.

I should be asking you if you are a fascist!y

- TheUltimateJet

No I don’t push my ideas or beliefs on other people and try to change peoples opinions through violence and destruction. That’s what Antifa and BLM do. They admit to it freely. Fighting fascism with fascism! Go gettum beat them into agreeing with you!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
You cannot be seriously asking me this. But since you did. We all have racial biases that have been instilled in us, by family members, schooling, media and what now. Understanding these biases is important for us to move past our racist ideas.

It took lots of meditation and reading to recognize myself as a progressive person was holding onto some of these ideals. BLM has liberated me and I am much more quick to recognize a racial thoughs and feelings.

- TheUltimateJet


LOL. That's not the information I was looking for. You crack me up. I'm glad that you've been liberated. More like indoctrinated. I think there is a big difference between prejudice and racism.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
Their reasons for protest were stupid, so people called them stupid. Opposite is the case, obviously black Americans felt that their rights superseded being as cautious as possible. I know there are people giving out masks and cleaning hands. Not so sure the hand holding is something ive seen. Lots of gloves. I think they know the risk and think human rights are more important. Just like the dummies who decided not wearing a mask was a human right. Even if most people think they are dumb, they’re welcome to protest.
- neem55

This is an incredibly naive, ignorant statement.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 4 @ 6:03 PM ET
LOL. That's not the information I was looking for. You crack me up. I'm glad that you've been liberated. More like indoctrinated. I think there is a big difference between prejudice and racism.
- MJL

Indoctrinated?
Pledge the oath of allegiance in schools?

Prejudice?
What happened to ‘E pluribus unum’?

Racism?
A nation that had slavery.
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