So you trade Saad for Manson, without shipping out a few D, Manson is still press box fodder

Keith. Bovquist
Da Haan. Murphy
Carlson. Mitchell/Seabrook

KK. Marta, Beaudin, Manson, etc., etc.

What a terrible waste of an asset trading Saad for Manson.
- LAHawk

If saad is traded who is replacing him big hole to fill. If demko or murry are on trading block what would a trade look like? Possibly Strome + ?

Connor Murphy is younger, better, and less expensive. If we need to do a salary dump with Saad, we can still do better than Josh Manson.
- LAHawk

OK, I am coming clean...I ONLY raise that Manson for Saad trade because you guys weren't letting the Saad must go conversation...
Do In think the hawks could benefit from a physical battler as an addition to backline? Well Manson is better than the one or two in the system, the contract6 is reasonable, but Saad is way more player than Charlie's son.

I think the Hawks are going full rebuild, in that the farm and picks and Europe are filling the varsity roster, until each and every prospect who can win a job is ready tom challenge for that job.
No additions via UFA.
Attempts to convince vets to be traded (with the promise of later employment the they are retired) will be made, maybe a complient volunteer to be the sacrificial lamb that is earmarked for Seattle?

And it might just come down to in a town year span, the defense is basically babies in training. Maybe the goal is minor pros in training too.

A lot had to do with success with the current group, along with compromise with new re-ups for the guys looking at new deals with the promise "we are building it so stay."


I want sSad to stay. I want Saad to resign rasonbabley. I want ever player to be reasonable in the wants.

I want the build to accomplish solidarity and at least one run with this group in a fight, competing to win in the playoffs...that will expose heart, ability and whether the group CAN win long term.

that is all you expect in the Cap era after having to go to your Cap's limit v=because of those successes...

I think it was Subban and Tompkins.

He keeps the tempo moving. Did you see after it ended Seabs giving the business to the red team? No wonder everyone likes him.

For what it was and not putting too much into it, but Kurashev, Sikura and Hagel can really motor.
- Elbows15

Of course, I was 'darthing' with my comment on the great goaltending ... and yes, darthing is now a verb.

My Shalunov and Fortin hopes have been dashed but I'm still holding out hope for Sikura.

Is Boqvist light on the edges backward or forwards or sideways or what?

Sorry Elbows #17 is a really good mover out there.

and Kurashev will be a meow for me until shows more than jump...

So you trade Saad for Manson, without shipping out a few D, Manson is still press box fodder

Keith. Bovquist
Da Haan. Murphy
Carlson. Mitchell/Seabrook

KK. Marta, Beaudin, Manson, etc., etc.

What a terrible waste of an asset trading Saad for Manson.
- LAHawk

First of all I need to know if Manson could return to the better defender he once was. I would need my scouts to chime in. I would want to know what happened to cause his level of performance to slip. I do not make a trade without those answers. I did not watch Anaheim games so I am uninformed

And secondly, I would rather keep Saad for the time being.

The depth on defense is an issue to carefully review.

Seabrook is a health concern returning from injury and staying healthy. Koekkoek has to earn a job with better performance now and exhibition next season. Seeler is only depth. Gilbert must be consistent and improved with a banner AHL season.

Hopefully Mitchell and Beaudin keep improving but both NHL same time could be challenging. Carlsson should be a regular. Boqvist is a big concussion worry and I do hope he does not get run a lot - it would be huge to have some of our guys run opposition players insofar as the opponents do not take liberty with no reprisal as a given.

Opponents must have respect and be wary we will run their top players equally as hard.

I would consider trading Saad if the return is right. That is due to the fact we appear to have prospects whom can step in and do some of the things Saad provides. The blog conversation was considering the return price for Saad. I repeat here that I am.not rushing off to deal him. Especially since you say Manson was bad and i do not know that he could turn it around.

OK, I am coming clean...I ONLY raise that Manson for Saad trade because you guys weren't letting the Saad must go conversation...
Do In think the hawks could benefit from a physical battler as an addition to backline? Well Manson is better than the one or two in the system, the contract6 is reasonable, but Saad is way more player than Charlie's son.

I think the Hawks are going full rebuild, in that the farm and picks and Europe are filling the varsity roster, until each and every prospect who can win a job is ready tom challenge for that job.
No additions via UFA.
Attempts to convince vets to be traded (with the promise of later employment the they are retired) will be made, maybe a complient volunteer to be the sacrificial lamb that is earmarked for Seattle?

And it might just come down to in a town year span, the defense is basically babies in training. Maybe the goal is minor pros in training too.

A lot had to do with success with the current group, along with compromise with new re-ups for the guys looking at new deals with the promise "we are building it so stay."


I want sSad to stay. I want Saad to resign rasonbabley. I want ever player to be reasonable in the wants.

I want the build to accomplish solidarity and at least one run with this group in a fight, competing to win in the playoffs...that will expose heart, ability and whether the group CAN win long term.

that is all you expect in the Cap era after having to go to your Cap's limit v=because of those successes...
- wiz1901

Charlie's son. You mean Dave Manson's son? That's terrible if you literally put Charlie in for Dave. Did you? Or did I misinterpret that?

Charlie's son. You mean Dave Manson's son? That's terrible if you literally put Charlie in for Dave. Did you? Or did I misinterpret that?

- just69sayin

That was his nickname, his teammates all called him Charlie. Wiz, your contributions on this site are appreciated, thanks for all you do.

No baseball in Toronto this summer.

No baseball in Toronto this summer.
- StLBravesFan

Same old same old

How much better is (was) Anisimov's skating to Strome? They are both approximately the same size. Arty never fulfilled his promise as a dominating power forward, but was known as defensively responsible/relied upon at times to take on the other teams offensive threat. To me Strome is much better offensively than Arty ever was, but is his skating that much more deficient that he could at least become defensively responsible (and i am not inferring about a lack of care, I don't see him taking many shifts "off")
- LAHawk

I would say after the work he did this year Strome is a bit quicker, especially laterally. I think straight line speed maybe AA a bit faster once he gets going but pretty marginal difference.

I think the biggest issue with Strome is that youth size stick he uses has him hunched over and in a position that doesn't allow him to be as strong on his skates as he should be.

The encouraging thing about Strome was that before his injury he looked noticbly quicker after spending a summer in Chicago with his little buddy who is also a gym rat. He'll never be a burner and probably never be a ppg player but could certainly be a lighter Jason Spezza type player.

Dach is the guy who is going to fill the Toews role of two way forward and could rack up 70 points a year while eating the other teams best players alive.

Dach Toews Strome up the middle could be a formidable group if the coach had any sense of how to play match ups.

Charlie's son. You mean Dave Manson's son? That's terrible if you literally put Charlie in for Dave. Did you? Or did I misinterpret that?

- just69sayin

Everybody called him Charley. It was a ref, Van Hellemond if I recall correctly, that started it. He said you knew Manson was going ballistic by the look in his eyes, thus the Charley Manson nickname.

That's a good question LA. AA certainly wasn't fleet of skate but he didn't seem to have the same problem checking his man defensively. I agree it isn't a matter of effort with Strome - he get's it and gives good effort but has a tough time staying with his man in the d-zone. It's probably more nuanced than attributing it solely to skating.
- EbonyRaptor

The other thing too is how much should these guys be chasing? It seems with some of the fellas they have it would be more prudent to play more of a zone type coverage than the follow your guy around thing that is an absolute mess.

Thats not to say that guys should be idly standing around but there shouldn't be a full man to man coverage anyway. That hasn't been used in any high level sport successfully since the 70s when most of the players were smoking half a pack of cigarettes as a warm up. The 90s Bulls (because they had to) were really the only team that could play close to a very strict man to man style defense but that was more because the rules dictated it.

Players should be keeping a basic shape, protecting the front of the goal and switching coverage in an organized and fluid way.

That bubonic squirrel is from Colorado. Maybe some of the Avs come down with it.
- boilermaker100

That is fairly common in the western states. Usually seen in prairie dogs. It'll take care of itself as long as people aren't doing stupid crap like transporting those animals to different locations and it is treatable with antibiotics since its a bacteria.

No baseball in Toronto this summer.
- StLBravesFan

They'll probably find an alternative site, most likely

They'll probably find an alternative site, most likely
- BetweenTheDots

Buffalo (where the stadium would need a lot of upgrades to get to MLB standards) and their training facility in Dunedin. FL (and we know about Florida’s pandemic issues, as well as playing in the hot Florida sun in August).

Buffalo (where the stadium would need a lot of upgrades to get to MLB standards) and their training facility in Dunedin. FL (and we know about Florida’s pandemic issues, as well as playing in the hot Florida sun in August).
- StLBravesFan

I don't think fans are allowed to attend so really they can go anywhere, even use triple a fields

Buffalo (where the stadium would need a lot of upgrades to get to MLB standards) and their training facility in Dunedin. FL (and we know about Florida’s pandemic issues, as well as playing in the hot Florida sun in August).
- StLBravesFan

You're wrong there's no issues in Florida, sigh

I don't think fans are allowed to attend so really they can go anywhere, even use triple a fields
- BetweenTheDots

They need good lighting for night TV telecasts, as well as MLB-standard locker rooms and training facilities.

Buffalo’s stadium apparently doesn’t qualify.

They need good lighting for night TV telecasts, as well as MLB-standard locker rooms and training facilities.

Buffalo’s stadium apparently doesn’t qualify.
- StLBravesFan

I believe the college world series field will be open

Is Boqvist light on the edges backward or forwards or sideways or what?

Sorry Elbows #17 is a really good mover out there.

and Kurashev will be a meow for me until shows more than jump...
- wiz1901

Apparently the Oxford vaccine is WAY ahead of schedule. Past phase 3 trials. Over 2 billion doses being mass produced. Might be ready by as soon as October/November.

I watched the scrimmage today and Dach was very noticeable again, but not all on a positive note. He has very good hands but maybe he's trying to be a little too cute because he tries to dangle through defenders too often and he loses the puck most of the time. The good side of that coin is that he immediately battles to get it back or at least disrupt any potential breakout because of his turnover. A very correctable flaw in his game - I have no doubt he will learn and be better with that issue.

A similar critique with Boqvist today - some really good and some not. His edge work and fluidity is high-end - he knows where to go and he makes good plays, including a nice snipe shot goal today, but, he also makes too many unforced errors with what I would also call trying to be too cute instead of making a safe play.

I suppose both of them making "too cute" plays may be attributed to playing loose in a scrimmage, but hopefully the coaches instill in them that they need to train themselves to not do those things and the scrimmage is to be used for getting in the right mindset - not just to play around.

Apparently the Oxford vaccine is WAY ahead of schedule. Past phase 3 trials. Over 2 billion doses being mass produced. Might be ready by as soon as October/November.
- SimpleJack

Fingers crossed

A wee bit concerned for the area i live in people getting very casual about it

Apparently the Oxford vaccine is WAY ahead of schedule. Past phase 3 trials. Over 2 billion doses being mass produced. Might be ready by as soon as October/November.
- SimpleJack

Uhhh, not exactly:

https://www.bloomberg.com...-coronavirus-front-runner

The University of Oxford candidate, led by Sarah Gilbert, might be through human trials in September. AstraZeneca has lined up agreements to produce 2 billion doses. Could this be the one?

So - might be through human trials in September, Astra Zeneca HAS AGREEMENTS to produce 2 billion (not producing now), starting in September. There could be some availability in October - 2 billion doses is a lot to produce and distribute - and nothing is being mass produced now.

Encouraging, but nothing is yet guaranteed.

Uhhh, not exactly:

https://www.bloomberg.com...-coronavirus-front-runner

The University of Oxford candidate, led by Sarah Gilbert, might be through human trials in September. AstraZeneca has lined up agreements to produce 2 billion doses. Could this be the one?

So - might be through human trials in September, Astra Zeneca HAS AGREEMENTS to produce 2 billion (not producing now), starting in September. There could be some availability in October - 2 billion doses is a lot to produce and distribute - and nothing is being mass produced now.

Encouraging, but nothing is yet guaranteed.
- StLBravesFan

The CEO has already given the vaccine to her children. Couple that with the mass ordering of 2 billion doses and if you ask me it sounds like they already know for pretty damn certain it works, and the public will soon be made aware. It’s producing not only antibodies but also killer T cells. Every bit of news on this seems incredibly promising thus far.