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Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 15 @ 9:00 AM ET
Get your votes in now!

https://twitter.com/Tyler...tatus/1283385792925229059
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 15 @ 9:07 AM ET
Where I here Colliton say "Today Corey is unfit to play or participate, so it's an opportunity for now, for those other guys to compete..." and Bowman say "When Corey's in that group, we can talk about Corey".

Makes it sound like a matter of time before Corey is in camp rather than he is unavailable to play. My guess is Crawford will be in net for the Hawks Aug 1st. It just doesn't sound to me like Crawford is ruled out from joining the team.

ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jul 15 @ 9:11 AM ET
Where I here Colliton say "Today Corey is unfit to play or participate, so it's an opportunity for now, for those other guys to compete..." and Bowman say "When Corey's in that group, we can talk about Corey".

Makes it sound like a matter of time before Corey is in camp rather than he is unavailable to play. My guess is Crawford will be in net for the Hawks Aug 1st. It just doesn't sound to me like Crawford is ruled out from joining the team.

- breadbag


I think it is either he had COVID and is recovering, or he tested positive and they are doing the whole 14 days of quarantine and negative test results before joining the team.

Could it be that, as someone else stated, he doesn't want to play if they get ousted in the play-in round, so instead of him opting out of play, they are just saying he is unfit to play, and then if they make it into the playoffs, he will play? Would they even be able to do this?

EDIT: I think it is one of the first two scenarios...I can't see them doing something underhanded...
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
I think it is either he had COVID and is recovering, or he tested positive and they are doing the whole 14 days of quarantine and negative test results before joining the team.

Could it be that, as someone else stated, he doesn't want to play if they get ousted in the play-in round, so instead of him opting out of play, they are just saying he is unfit to play, and then if they make it into the playoffs, he will play? Would they even be able to do this?

EDIT: I think it is one of the first two scenarios...I can't see them doing something underhanded...

- ToewsdNKanefusd


I'm wondering what they are doing with people who have symptoms but don't test positive? I'm assuming Crawford could just be sick even if it isn't confirmed COVID and they'd make him sit out.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'm wondering what they are doing with people who have symptoms but don't test positive? I'm assuming Crawford could just be sick even if it isn't confirmed COVID and they'd make him sit out.
- breadbag[/quote

Could be anything. I hope its not related to his previous concussions. it could be a family member who is in Crawford's bubble was in contact with someone who tested positive, and they have Crawford in 14 day quarantine as a precaution.

Outside of hoping that whatever is making Crow unfit to play is temporary in nature, and with expectations of the Hawks advancing going from not probable to almost non-existent, I would be looking at the 5 game series as preseason/exhibition. Hawks are the third youngest team in the tournament, let the kids play, see how they do. evaluation for next year. If the hawks lose the first 2 games of the series, I can almost see the Hawks fielding a team comparable to the last exhibition game they played last year against Boston, when the rest of the team was overseas waiting to play the Flyers.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jul 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'm wondering what they are doing with people who have symptoms but don't test positive? I'm assuming Crawford could just be sick even if it isn't confirmed COVID and they'd make him sit out.
- breadbag


Yes, could also be that, or he could be out of shape...but I do think like you do, that he will eventually be with the team, or at least they think that he most likely will be, or they wouldn't have had him on the roster at all.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
I wanna goatee!!!
- bruceflyers

YOU WOULD DOUCHBAG
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
My guess is Crawford will be in net for the Hawks Aug 1st. It just doesn't sound to me like Crawford is ruled out from joining the team.
- breadbag


Well, we are all guessing, whether the league actually gets to actually being healthy and safe enough to play games, if an athlete like Crawford can recover well enough without a pre-"season" to gets in sync to the speed with which he has to be to do his job.

I just remember the way when Crow was out due to his concussion and possible snowmobiling accident there were rumors of... Delia and Forsberg were never able to to keep the hawks in games, so many crucial goals against deflated what looked like a team on it's way to a victory suddenly caught up t, tied and having to then try and stop the goal bleed when a Crawford might have never let that bleed happen in most cases.

MY opinion of Subban has never wavered form thin king he could someday elevate his play to be an. NHL back-up, and that opinion hasn't changed. He was a Cap leveling throw-in, not a player StanBo acquired to build around.

Delia's upside is based on minor pro play and I guess you can place Kevin L. as the same, because until they can shoulder the NHL load on game after prep and response...even Ken Dryden's incredible playoff intro to his career, he tapered off in the middle of the run.

I expected because the game would be so closely compacted to get the playoff over and done, that most teams were going to have to use two goalies, with a back-up playing at least one game so Maybe the starter gets a breather/recoup day especially since I think there is one back to back in each series (?)

Maybe just like that guy in Carolina the young hawks rally around their new starter(s) and the net minders pull off performances worthy of future Cup lore...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm wondering what they are doing with people who have symptoms but don't test positive? I'm assuming Crawford could just be sick even if it isn't confirmed COVID and they'd make him sit out.
- breadbag


Since other teams are using the same "unfit to play" comments on their absence players, I am gonna go with they got it and the league has the press response in place that doesn't violate or irritate the athletes...

Your first paragraph is so on the pulse of so many regular folks.

Not trying to go politics here...but unless I missed it because I have never viewed a 24 hr cable news channel for more than 2 minutes at a time, but I really would have hoped that there was a national protocol...so that if I think I got symptoms, or if I have a person temp test me, I really am not sure what happens in what order after I tell my doctor. Do I wait, do they take me away, do they test me first with the short swab and later with the violin-length swab up to my brain.
Even the incubation...that man who was 4 feet outside my car window when I didn't remark as he approached without one...comom paranoia would place me in another section of may own house, but if those contagious droplets were in me, aren't they still gonna give my household cooties if I share the kitchen, prepare the dinners.
When do I know if that man at my car window DIDN'T infect me?
3 weeks? 14 days, not for 3 days- don't worry after 9 days afterI show no symtoms? (Oh, am I symptomatic?)

And I guess because I in a hockey blog too long, I missed the tracking aspect.
No one put one on my phone or encouraged me to add one, even though I am passed the big brother watching stage because I aint breaking any laws currently on the books,

Does my state to reverse tracking y just asking me who I was in contact with?

(Oh I forgot I handed the dog walker her check...)

Just kidding the only female dog around her is me.

I know the world is working to attempt proper protocols and then adjusting as we find out that some of the cations made things worse, but honestly I dont think I am completely stupid, but do not know at all these different check points to prevent more spreading are properly in place, or if right now there is enough there to aid my staying free of the cooties.

I am confident Gary Bettman has done an incredible job of putting together a plan that is flexible and will adjust. I just feel that as science starts to round out the study of the way it works, that at this moment there may be cracks in the prevention of spreading.

That asymptomatic part you mentioned at the beginning - my wife I assumed after that DisneyworLd trip in the first week of March (and the news that some died who was their the day before us), that we very well had it.

We isolated we strictly isolated neighbor got us groceries no contacts

We got no symptoms NONE.

BUT WE STILL WERE NOT (ARE NOT) sure if the cooties was in us and didn't want to spread them.

My wife has only left for doctor's appointments and you know how they take your temperature? Ours are not above normal.

But who knows when does droplets get in front of you your eyeballs in transit?

So I am thinking the nHl is gonna test everyone more than once a day including the food prep hotel maids etc...but again, cracks in the prevention process seem to very possible...
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jul 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
I wanna goatee!!!
- bruceflyers


Wow Bruceflyers sounds a lot like Vopats now that Preds are not contenders any longer and the Flyers are on the upswing.

Anyhoo, what a bummer about Crawford. I had the Hawks' as a 2010 Flyers, 2012 Kings or 2017 Preds where it all came together in the playoffs and an 8th seed made it to the Cup. Makes it much more difficult now.

That said, I imagine Subban starts and Delia is the backup. But that might not even last the first game if Oil goes up by 4 early on.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
Well, we are all guessing, whether the league actually gets to actually being healthy and safe enough to play games, if an athlete like Crawford can recover well enough without a pre-"season" to gets in sync to the speed with which he has to be to do his job.

I just remember the way when Crow was out due to his concussion and possible snowmobiling accident there were rumors of... Delia and Forsberg were never able to to keep the hawks in games, so many crucial goals against deflated what looked like a team on it's way to a victory suddenly caught up t, tied and having to then try and stop the goal bleed when a Crawford might have never let that bleed happen in most cases.

MY opinion of Subban has never wavered form thin king he could someday elevate his play to be an. NHL back-up, and that opinion hasn't changed. He was a Cap leveling throw-in, not a player StanBo acquired to build around.

Delia's upside is based on minor pro play and I guess you can place Kevin L. as the same, because until they can shoulder the NHL load on game after prep and response...even Ken Dryden's incredible playoff intro to his career, he tapered off in the middle of the run.

I expected because the game would be so closely compacted to get the playoff over and done, that most teams were going to have to use two goalies, with a back-up playing at least one game so Maybe the starter gets a breather/recoup day especially since I think there is one back to back in each series (?)

Maybe just like that guy in Carolina the young hawks rally around their new starter(s) and the net minders pull off performances worthy of future Cup lore...

- wiz1901

Delia's upside is based on how calm he looked when playing initial games at the NHL level. This guy has steadily played his way onto an AHL/NHL club with no hype. From Big Bear Lake , CA!
https://sportsmockery.com...al-deal-with-1st-nhl-win/
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 15 @ 11:18 AM ET

It's been two years since Razor pasted.

Rest in Peace.



breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
Well, we are all guessing, whether the league actually gets to actually being healthy and safe enough to play games, if an athlete like Crawford can recover well enough without a pre-"season" to gets in sync to the speed with which he has to be to do his job.

I just remember the way when Crow was out due to his concussion and possible snowmobiling accident there were rumors of... Delia and Forsberg were never able to to keep the hawks in games, so many crucial goals against deflated what looked like a team on it's way to a victory suddenly caught up t, tied and having to then try and stop the goal bleed when a Crawford might have never let that bleed happen in most cases.

MY opinion of Subban has never wavered form thin king he could someday elevate his play to be an. NHL back-up, and that opinion hasn't changed. He was a Cap leveling throw-in, not a player StanBo acquired to build around.

Delia's upside is based on minor pro play and I guess you can place Kevin L. as the same, because until they can shoulder the NHL load on game after prep and response...even Ken Dryden's incredible playoff intro to his career, he tapered off in the middle of the run.

I expected because the game would be so closely compacted to get the playoff over and done, that most teams were going to have to use two goalies, with a back-up playing at least one game so Maybe the starter gets a breather/recoup day especially since I think there is one back to back in each series (?)

Maybe just like that guy in Carolina the young hawks rally around their new starter(s) and the net minders pull off performances worthy of future Cup lore...

- wiz1901


I'm pulling for Kevin Lankinen to show up if Crawford can't go. I know he hasn't played real NHL games, but I remember how impressive he played for Finland at the 2019 world champ games. Maybe he could rise to the occasion? I know it's a big question mark, but I think he has some potential to surprise, but mostly it's based on my gut feeling.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Delia's upside is based on how calm he looked when playing initial games at the NHL level. This guy has steadily played his way onto an AHL/NHL club with no hype. From Big Bear Lake , CA!
https://sportsmockery.com...al-deal-with-1st-nhl-win/

- just69sayin


He definitely looked comfortable in the net compared to some others like Anton Forsberg when he was here. The only knock I had when watching Delia, he seemed prone to go down a bit early and get beat high, at least in the NHL games I've seen. The Hawks coaching staff have a good guy to work with in Delia though, I wouldn't be shocked if he beats out the other guys. He has never had a good NHL defense in front of him and the Hawks might be in a situation right now where no goalie would carry them.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:19 PM ET
Where I here Colliton say "Today Corey is unfit to play or participate, so it's an opportunity for now, for those other guys to compete..." and Bowman say "When Corey's in that group, we can talk about Corey".

Makes it sound like a matter of time before Corey is in camp rather than he is unavailable to play. My guess is Crawford will be in net for the Hawks Aug 1st. It just doesn't sound to me like Crawford is ruled out from joining the team.

- breadbag


I wonder if he's having concussion symptoms, they way i understand it they can come and go when you've had several head injuries
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
Got some free time...not one of the lame ass teams going through the loser best of fives.

Holy F man...carter hart does look unstoppable though.

Enjoy the 3 cups for the rest of your life.
Love how your owner is on the cheap once again. Those 70’s and 80’s chicago teams were truly horrendous. Get ready!!!

- bruceflyers


Looks really good, i really hope he doesn't sign a bridge deal and gets close to 8 figures, and handcuffs your team for years to come like Bobo and Price did
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
An interesting article on the front office rearranging by the Hawks. On its surface, it sounds very good. They've promoted some young guys who have good ideas and have put in the time. They've also moved Maciver to a role where he, theoretically, has a better chance at success.

The article also reiterates some of the points that TC stated in a previous blog about the Hawks getting younger, and finding players in unconventional ways. It will be interesting to see how the next 3-4 years play out.

https://chicago.suntimes....yan-stewart-kyle-davidson
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
Yes, could also be that, or he could be out of shape...but I do think like you do, that he will eventually be with the team, or at least they think that he most likely will be, or they wouldn't have had him on the roster at all.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Goalie in shape, that's an oxymoron. In the olden days they played with a beer in one hand and were as wide as a house.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
I wonder if he's having concussion symptoms, they way i understand it they can come and go when you've had several head injuries
- BetweenTheDots

He would have to fall down the stairs first which never happens.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 1:04 PM ET
Looks really good, i really hope he doesn't sign a bridge deal and gets close to 8 figures, and handcuffs your team for years to come like Bobo and Price did
- BetweenTheDots

Not sure where the "cheap" comment comes from either?
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
Get your votes in now!

https://twitter.com/Tyler...tatus/1283385792925229059

- Tyler Cameron

I voted for Subban with a slight edge over they're toast.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jul 15 @ 1:44 PM ET
Got some free time...not one of the lame ass teams going through the loser best of fives.

Holy F man...carter hart does look unstoppable though.

Enjoy the 3 cups for the rest of your life.
Love how your owner is on the cheap once again. Those 70’s and 80’s chicago teams were truly horrendous. Get ready!!!

- bruceflyers

I will enjoy those Cup for the rest of my life .Heck I never thought I would see them win one Cup in my life time let alone Three Stanley Cups !!!!

I think with a flat cap for a few years all owners will need to tighten the belt .
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 15 @ 1:56 PM ET
Hawks play a tune up game versus the Blues 5:30 Central time on July 29.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jul 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
An interesting article on the front office rearranging by the Hawks. On its surface, it sounds very good. They've promoted some young guys who have good ideas and have put in the time. They've also moved Maciver to a role where he, theoretically, has a better chance at success.

The article also reiterates some of the points that TC stated in a previous blog about the Hawks getting younger, and finding players in unconventional ways. It will be interesting to see how the next 3-4 years play out.

https://chicago.suntimes....yan-stewart-kyle-davidson

- Chunk

Yes , great post, I was reading a physical newspaper a few hours ago for the first time in months,and was thrilled to read about all of this.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jul 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
Delia's upside is based on how calm he looked when playing initial games at the NHL level. This guy has steadily played his way onto an AHL/NHL club with no hype. From Big Bear Lake , CA!
https://sportsmockery.com...al-deal-with-1st-nhl-win/

- just69sayin

Yup, he appeared calm, until the red light started going on so frequently he got a burn on the back of his neck.
He's shown nothing to support the theory that he can even be a passable NHL backup.

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