Smooches 😘
- sbroads24

https://youtu.be/IRVRbh9OjUQ

Live update with douche

Yes. Test as much as possible.

As time goes on we will learn more about COVID. It’s still so early.

I’d rather be overly cautious and wrong, then careless and wrong.
- sbroads24

they are very careless down here in florida


dumba$$es

It's interesting. What is the true cost of being cautious and wrong though? It isn't free.
- IonSabres

now they are closing social clubs in florida, blaming that for the virus spread

you can't make this up as they get ready to shove 25 people in portable class rooms



schools should be the first thing to close, and last to open up

There was an article I read today, the record number of cases as a raw count also represents a 4 or 5 day trend of lower Positivity Rate as a percentage of Tests...I din't fact check it, but testing was up significantly. It went on to say Hospitalizations are also decreasing as a percentage as well as Deaths. Maybe Herd Immunity is starting to take hold? I think that is still way to early to arrive at that conclusion myself, but we are moving towards it.

Test more, find more...isn't that what everyone wanted back in March April, May.
Hard to keep up with shifting focus of what's important.
- IonSabres

Common sense would dictate that when a pandemic is trending where you live you are more likely to seek out testing. The lowering of positivity rate in testing doesn’t say anything about the prevalence or spread of the virus. It says that more people who aren’t sick are getting tested because they are worried. You have a way of believing the spin and propaganda that is sickening.

Hospitalization and deaths lags behind the spikes in cases because it takes time for people to get sick enough to be hospitalized or die from the virus. In two weeks when the hospitalization and deaths spike you’ll be singing a different tune based on the newest propaganda trying to rationalize the terrible job the government has done.

Herd immunity takes at least 70% of a population to have immunity to be at all effective at mitigating the spread of a disease. Florida has more than 20 million people living there and less than 250,000 cases. You like to pretend to be the mathematician, so you tell me how far away from 70% that is.

Furthermore, there is anecdotal evidence that your immunity to coronavirus may only last a few months, which means that herd immunity may never be achievable with this virus. I haven’t read anything concerning a potential vaccine lasting in efficacy, but in my opinion this is a real issue with a vaccine as well. If our bodies aren’t keeping the antibodies from the infection, why would they keep the antibodies from a vaccine? This is all hypothetical, as there haven’t been the studies to prove that people’s immunity doesn’t always last.

As for your more testing more cases BS - Trump and his minions somehow believed that having cases in the US said something about him being a failure. His failure is the lack of testing that has allowed this to spread so widely and become a much bigger problem than it could have been. His failure is the delays in testing results. His failure is the restrictions early on preventing people from getting the test when they were sick because they didn’t meet the criteria. His failure is disbanding the pandemic response team that Obama had in place to deal with situations exactly like this and see it coming in advance and act early enough to save lives. This all allowed the virus to become a much bigger problem than it had to be.

Of course the US is going to have higher case rates of coronavirus than most other countries. We live differently than other countries. We have more disposable income that allows people to shop more, travel more, waste money hanging out in bars more, to go out to entertainment venues more. Of course we will have higher rates of infection than poorer countries.

All Trump had to do was say so, and the American people wouldn’t have held it against him. Instead, because everything is a contest with Trump, he felt he had to win the contest of having less cases than other places so he delayed and restricted availability of testing early on when this was starting to spread, and it has become a disaster because of it. Trump felt if it were harder to get tested, if we tested less people, then the numbers of cases would be lower and he would look better. This is the thinking of a child who can’t see far enough ahead to realize the consequences of their actions. This is the thinking of someone who cares only about themself.

Trump admitted on camera that he told his people to slow down the testing.

Trump is an epic failure. He is a moron and acts like a spoiled brat child. He is an embarrassment to humanity. The only thing more embarrassing than trump is that there were almost 63 million people stupid enough to fall for his crap and vote for him in the last election.

Thousands of people have died who would have otherwise not have because of the actions and lack of action by Trump.

South Korea and the US had their first coronavirus case on the same day. One country rushed to test as many people as it could while the other tried to delay testing to make the president look better. South Korea’s economy hasn’t had to shut down. Their people have open movie theaters, restaurants, schools and everything else. Their case rate and death rate is much lower than ours. That’s all leadership. They have good leadership, we do not.

https://youtu.be/IRVRbh9OjUQ

Live update with douche
- gerbe75pts

Of course the US is going to have higher case rates of coronavirus than most other countries. We live differently than other countries. .
- Beethoven

Or, if the Positivity Rate is falling AND continues ( big assumption) while the Hospitalization Rate and Death Rate hold steady or decrease, maybe, just maybe we are achieving the goal of protecting those at higher risks while achieving immunities?
That would be a very good thing.
Who cares how many are infected if the real results for 98% are insignificant...protect the 2%
- IonSabres

Everything I've heard is that herd Immunity is impossible at current levels. Just wear a mask and try to limit the spread. Who knows, maybe you'll save a life until a vaccine is available. It's worth the small daily inconvenience (I worked outside in 90+ degree heat for 10 days. I know how much it sucks)

Saying you love tage and calling Sam a super star is enough for me ...

And I think this is garth
-gerbe75pts

😂😂😂

Tage on Line1 ends it for me too

It's not even just Cirelli, Sergachev could be as could Cernak. My point is what if Sergachev signs a extension, say 3yrs 5.5mill, basically wipes out there cap space. What is a 4.5mill OS a 2nd rnd pick. They are gonna have to trade atleast 2 players Killorn is a obvious choice because he doesn't have a full NTC and depending on his 16 team list what is the cap restrictions of those teams. Tampa could be in a pickle.
- Buff36

I agree IF somebody wants to be a bad ass and OS.
$4.2 and less is 2nd. Does Cerilli sign that, wouldn't Tampa match and deal someone else?
Where is that line. Gotta overpay to force them to walk away...but maybe not as much as in past years.
Try a trade route 1st with threat of OS ... then be prepared to be treatedcpike poop by other GMs if you do OS.
It is interesting no doubt.

Isn't it undoubtedly lesser than the other approach?
- sbroads24

The economic costs and results to people because of massive closings will far exceed any deaths from Covid.

Common sense would dictate that when a pandemic is trending where you live you are more likely to seek out testing. The lowering of positivity rate in testing doesn’t say anything about the prevalence or spread of the virus. It says that more people who aren’t sick are getting tested because they are worried. You have a way of believing the spin and propaganda that is sickening.

Hospitalization and deaths lags behind the spikes in cases because it takes time for people to get sick enough to be hospitalized or die from the virus. In two weeks when the hospitalization and deaths spike you’ll be singing a different tune based on the newest propaganda trying to rationalize the terrible job the government has done.

Herd immunity takes at least 70% of a population to have immunity to be at all effective at mitigating the spread of a disease. Florida has more than 20 million people living there and less than 250,000 cases. You like to pretend to be the mathematician, so you tell me how far away from 70% that is.

Furthermore, there is anecdotal evidence that your immunity to coronavirus may only last a few months, which means that herd immunity may never be achievable with this virus. I haven’t read anything concerning a potential vaccine lasting in efficacy, but in my opinion this is a real issue with a vaccine as well. If our bodies aren’t keeping the antibodies from the infection, why would they keep the antibodies from a vaccine? This is all hypothetical, as there haven’t been the studies to prove that people’s immunity doesn’t always last.

As for your more testing more cases BS - Trump and his minions somehow believed that having cases in the US said something about him being a failure. His failure is the lack of testing that has allowed this to spread so widely and become a much bigger problem than it could have been. His failure is the delays in testing results. His failure is the restrictions early on preventing people from getting the test when they were sick because they didn’t meet the criteria. His failure is disbanding the pandemic response team that Obama had in place to deal with situations exactly like this and see it coming in advance and act early enough to save lives. This all allowed the virus to become a much bigger problem than it had to be.

Of course the US is going to have higher case rates of coronavirus than most other countries. We live differently than other countries. We have more disposable income that allows people to shop more, travel more, waste money hanging out in bars more, to go out to entertainment venues more. Of course we will have higher rates of infection than poorer countries.

All Trump had to do was say so, and the American people wouldn’t have held it against him. Instead, because everything is a contest with Trump, he felt he had to win the contest of having less cases than other places so he delayed and restricted availability of testing early on when this was starting to spread, and it has become a disaster because of it. Trump felt if it were harder to get tested, if we tested less people, then the numbers of cases would be lower and he would look better. This is the thinking of a child who can’t see far enough ahead to realize the consequences of their actions. This is the thinking of someone who cares only about themself.

Trump admitted on camera that he told his people to slow down the testing.

Trump is an epic failure. He is a moron and acts like a spoiled brat child. He is an embarrassment to humanity. The only thing more embarrassing than trump is that there were almost 63 million people stupid enough to fall for his crap and vote for him in the last election.

Thousands of people have died who would have otherwise not have because of the actions and lack of action by Trump.

South Korea and the US had their first coronavirus case on the same day. One country rushed to test as many people as it could while the other tried to delay testing to make the president look better. South Korea’s economy hasn’t had to shut down. Their people have open movie theaters, restaurants, schools and everything else. Their case rate and death rate is much lower than ours. That’s all leadership. They have good leadership, we do not.
- Beethoven

Sweden tried herd immunity and it didn’t work.

https://youtu.be/IRVRbh9OjUQ

Live update with douche
- gerbe75pts

😂😂😂

I agree IF somebody wants to be a bad ass and OS.
$4.2 and less is 2nd. Does Cerilli sign that, wouldn't Tampa match and deal someone else?
Where is that line. Gotta overpay to force them to walk away...but maybe not as much as in past years.
Try a trade route 1st with threat of OS ... then be prepared to be treatedcpike poop by other GMs if you do OS.
It is interesting no doubt.
- IonSabres

With everything going on, I think it is gonna be a weird offseason

Sweden tried herd immunity and it didn’t work.
- Pegullaville

^THIS

https://www.businessinsid...__twitter_impression=true

I dont think so. The Blackhawks logo isn't cartoonishly racist like the Cleveland Indians logo
- jcragcrumple

The Indians got rid of Chief Wahoo before the 2019 season. Their logo is a C.

Or, if the Positivity Rate is falling AND continues ( big assumption) while the Hospitalization Rate and Death Rate hold steady or decrease, maybe, just maybe we are achieving the goal of protecting those at higher risks while achieving immunities?
That would be a very good thing.
Who cares how many are infected if the real results for 98% are insignificant...protect the 2%
- IonSabres

So are u not gonna see your parents or grandparents for a year or so?

The problem with your theory has always been that MANY of the 98% are utterly careless & u can’t depend on them to do what’s right to actually protect the 2%

It’s a dreamworld scenario that would never work in reality

The Indians got rid of Chief Wahoo before the 2019 season. Their logo is a C.
- JetpackJesus

Major League is on AMC right now

Everything I've heard is that herd Immunity is impossible at current levels. Just wear a mask and try to limit the spread. Who knows, maybe you'll save a life until a vaccine is available. It's worth the small daily inconvenience (I worked outside in 90+ degree heat for 10 days. I know how much it sucks)
- jcragcrumple

I do wear a mask as recommended.
I have physically distanced as recommended.

I used to work in an industry where N95 makes with HazMat suit over the head, w Goggles was required in an environment where for months the heat was 95 with 90% humidity...with HVAC turned off to stem the spread of airborne particulates so as to not decontaminate cleaned areas..did so for 2 years...I get it, lol.
My clothes were complelely soaked within 15 minutes.

Masks are a minor inconvenience. I wear to help others feel comfortable as much as possible.

Major League is on AMC right now
- jdfitz77

Well then, I guess there's only one thing left to do...

So are u not gonna see your parents or grandparents for a year or so?

The problem with your theory has always been that MANY of the 98% are utterly careless & u can’t depend on them to do what’s right to actually protect the 2%

It’s a dreamworld scenario that would never work in reality
- jdfitz77

Well, easy for me.
They are all dead.
Other family members, probably will be close to a year as they are all remote...maybe my son and his family around Xmas depending on the scenario we are in then...could see that cancelling.
My situation isn't typical for upstate NYers.
Not sure where you're going with this.

I passed up an opportunity to travel back to NYS for 2 weeks, about 2-1/2 weeks ago now.
Original intent was to see family and friends, attend a funeral, 2 birthday parties.
A small portion of my decision was to help others feel a bit more comfortable, a portion was I didn't want to incur the associated risk by airline travel, and another portion was my son's in-laws uninvited us from our grand daughter's 1st birthday party since we are from Florida.

It's interesting g though, I see the shut it down until it goes away as a dream, but that is me.

Well then, I guess there's only one thing left to do...
- Atomic Wedgie

Win the whole (frank)ing Thing

Sooooo...

I was looking at all the teams' cap situations for next year.

Gosh darnit, you wing-scarfing S.O.B.s may have just positioned yourselves perfectly.

Your top players are locked in, and you can re-sign whomever the frank you want at COVID-19 discount prices.

I'm thinking with so many teams screwed with a frozen cap, there will be some sweet bargains to be had.

Darn you.

Darn you to heck.

You may want to give Tampa a call - they will be selling.

Win the whole (frank)ing Thing
- Buff36

Fun fact: in the original cut, the female owner was actually trying to make them win. She pretended to be a female dog to motivate them.

Test audiences didn't like it, but damn, now I want to see that version.

The Indians got rid of Chief Wahoo before the 2019 season. Their logo is a C.
- JetpackJesus

I understand. I'm just saying chief wahoo takes the cake for racist sports insignia

Common sense would dictate that when a pandemic is trending where you live you are more likely to seek out testing. The lowering of positivity rate in testing doesn’t say anything about the prevalence or spread of the virus. It says that more people who aren’t sick are getting tested because they are worried. You have a way of believing the spin and propaganda that is sickening.

Hospitalization and deaths lags behind the spikes in cases because it takes time for people to get sick enough to be hospitalized or die from the virus. In two weeks when the hospitalization and deaths spike you’ll be singing a different tune based on the newest propaganda trying to rationalize the terrible job the government has done.

Herd immunity takes at least 70% of a population to have immunity to be at all effective at mitigating the spread of a disease. Florida has more than 20 million people living there and less than 250,000 cases. You like to pretend to be the mathematician, so you tell me how far away from 70% that is.

Furthermore, there is anecdotal evidence that your immunity to coronavirus may only last a few months, which means that herd immunity may never be achievable with this virus. I haven’t read anything concerning a potential vaccine lasting in efficacy, but in my opinion this is a real issue with a vaccine as well. If our bodies aren’t keeping the antibodies from the infection, why would they keep the antibodies from a vaccine? This is all hypothetical, as there haven’t been the studies to prove that people’s immunity doesn’t always last.

As for your more testing more cases BS - Trump and his minions somehow believed that having cases in the US said something about him being a failure. His failure is the lack of testing that has allowed this to spread so widely and become a much bigger problem than it could have been. His failure is the delays in testing results. His failure is the restrictions early on preventing people from getting the test when they were sick because they didn’t meet the criteria. His failure is disbanding the pandemic response team that Obama had in place to deal with situations exactly like this and see it coming in advance and act early enough to save lives. This all allowed the virus to become a much bigger problem than it had to be.

Of course the US is going to have higher case rates of coronavirus than most other countries. We live differently than other countries. We have more disposable income that allows people to shop more, travel more, waste money hanging out in bars more, to go out to entertainment venues more. Of course we will have higher rates of infection than poorer countries.

All Trump had to do was say so, and the American people wouldn’t have held it against him. Instead, because everything is a contest with Trump, he felt he had to win the contest of having less cases than other places so he delayed and restricted availability of testing early on when this was starting to spread, and it has become a disaster because of it. Trump felt if it were harder to get tested, if we tested less people, then the numbers of cases would be lower and he would look better. This is the thinking of a child who can’t see far enough ahead to realize the consequences of their actions. This is the thinking of someone who cares only about themself.

Trump admitted on camera that he told his people to slow down the testing.

Trump is an epic failure. He is a moron and acts like a spoiled brat child. He is an embarrassment to humanity. The only thing more embarrassing than trump is that there were almost 63 million people stupid enough to fall for his crap and vote for him in the last election.

Thousands of people have died who would have otherwise not have because of the actions and lack of action by Trump.

South Korea and the US had their first coronavirus case on the same day. One country rushed to test as many people as it could while the other tried to delay testing to make the president look better. South Korea’s economy hasn’t had to shut down. Their people have open movie theaters, restaurants, schools and everything else. Their case rate and death rate is much lower than ours. That’s all leadership. They have good leadership, we do not.
- Beethoven

Obama/Biden actually terminated the testing for H1N1 and advised states to stop counting infections, failure there, or can’t we bring that up? As of today Florida has 20 deaths per 100,000 people, Texas has 11 per 100,000. In comparison NJ has 175, NY 166 and Conn 122. Statistica.com does an exceptional job at tracking corona numbers. Let’s keep our eye on that rate for FL and TX. If those numbers don’t spike significantly in the 2 weeks you mentioned then what are you going to point towards next, will you admit you made a bad call, of course you probably won’t, just like all the health officials in the government.