One of the big four forwards would have to go.

But our odds of actually winning something would increase as far as I am concerned.

The other options are to trade for a defenseman (One of the big four would be going the other way for a real defenseman) or to not acquire a top line defenseman at all.

I like signing Pietrangelo for no assets and trading one of the big four for a nice package to restock the prospect pool and keep a steady stream of talent coming over the next 5 years.
- Leafs43

It's totally an option and hard to argue against it. My concern with AP is he'll be 31 in January. He's a beast and it's probable you get good value but I'd be hesitant. If he was offering to come on a great deal then maybe you have to make it work. But I suspect he'll be looking for market rate (10+) like Karlsson and Doughty.

My preference is to move a AJ or KK maybe with Dermott to get an upgrade on D.

Dubas front loaded all 3 of those contracts. They'll all average less than 3 milly per season after this year. That'll be cheap if they produce. Kapanen in particular looks like a fiscal bargain for someone.
- The Law

We should be front loading all contracts from now on, it makes them much more attractive to other teams I would think.

Marner has already been paid 31 million from his 65 million contract. I think a team would be a premium for a player like Marner at only 7 million cash per year. (Obviously I would rather keep Marner, I'm just saying his contract is very movable due to the bonus structure)

well it should be "incidents" but fine. So you are against the tearing down of statues then?
- drexel

im against putting them up

well it should be "incidents" but fine. So you are against the tearing down of statues then?
- drexel

I never claimed to be for or against anything other than rather having JT represent my country than that orange embarrassment down south. That decision isn't solely based on who's the bigger 'racist' either.

What I am very against is playing this silly little game with a redneck spewing his MAGA bs in here on the daily. Hard pass on that.

We should be front loading all contracts from now on, it makes them much more attractive to other teams I would think.

Marner has already been paid 31 million from his 65 million contract. I think a team would be a premium for a player like Marner at only 7 million cash per year. (Obviously I would rather keep Marner, I'm just saying his contract is very movable due to the bonus structure)
- Leafs43

Yup. I think they've done it on every single signing.

It's totally an option and hard to argue against it. My concern with AP is he'll be 31 in January. He's a beast and it's probable you get good value but I'd be hesitant. If he was offering to come on a great deal then maybe you have to make it work. But I suspect he'll be looking for market rate (10+) like Karlsson and Doughty.

My preference is to move a AJ or KK maybe with Dermott to get an upgrade on D.
- The Law

Not sure he can get 10+ anymore. But no idea.

If we can get the contract at around 8.5 million cap hit and front load it with signing bonuses, we could ship him off in a few years if his play is slipping.

I just want a damn real #1 pairing. Closest thing we would have is Rielly/Muzzin and neither one of them has any interest in playing the right side so we are stuck with plugs like Ceci.

Not sure he can get 10+ anymore. But no idea.

If we can get the contract at around 8.5 million cap hit and front load it with signing bonuses, we could ship him off in a few years if his play is slipping.

I just want a damn real #1 pairing. Closest thing we would have is Rielly/Muzzin and neither one of them has any interest in playing the right side so we are stuck with plugs like Ceci.
- Leafs43

My biggest concern there is term. I can see him being offered numerous max term deals and that being his deciding factor. That would make that contract tough to move at a certain point even with the up front cash.

If Lou gets Barzal extended on the cheap, the Dubas haters will still be tooting that horn in a decade...
- joel878

Never truer words spoken.

I'm not an expert.

I would imagine you could phone your local health inspector?

The government has to have some sort of hotline or something.
- Atomic Wedgie

"We Charity. How may I direct your call?"

A racist incident decades in the past when it wasn't exactly considered racist is a little different than a racist record in the present... But sure.

I am not a JT fan at all, I'd rather have him represent my country than that orange (frank)wit any day.
- joel878

Any intelligent person would.
Which says all you need to know about the trumpets.

It's a pass from me, I don't think another big money deal is sustainable. Creates a do or die scenario now, or the core gets stripped away to make the numbers work.
- joel878

Does that mean Freddy is out also ?? And if so, Soup is gonna be the guy that leads to the promised land??

Decades? The guy couldn't answer if he's done it in the last week, month, year and how many times. Someone asked him when was the last time, how many times, and how often do you do this, the guy could not recall. He could still be doing it... Might be his fetish.
- kaptaan

Still whining about this eh?
Old news.
Your fuhrer commits racist acts or comments almost daily.

Shoo.

I have no idea how the cba works but if players have to give 10 percent of their pay back then that 10 percent should come off their cap hit as well.

Leafs would have lots of money.
- bryant

MJL, the Phili Darth Vader guy knew the details before it was finalized. He may drop by and explain how it (frank)s us over.

My biggest concern there is term. I can see him being offered numerous max term deals and that being his deciding factor. That would make that contract tough to move at a certain point even with the up front cash.
- joel878

Which teams are in a position to a) have the cap space to make a $10 millon/year offer and b) actually have that money to pay him?

Fiscally speaking, winter is coming.

I don't know if NHL owners will even want to play next year if there is no vaccine.

I'm willing to bet a pizza and case of beer there is no AHL season next year.

I'm not saying I know what's going to happen with contracts next year.

I'm saying I don't think anyone knows.

Does that mean Freddy is out also ?? And if so, Soup is gonna be the guy that leads to the promised land??
- dozerD10

Definitely do not have that answer, but I do know that extending Freddie from 5 to 8 (or whatever he gets) is a very different story from bringing in Pietrangelo at 10 outright.

My comment was to mean that Rielly/Andersen extensions would be just another thing that would be very difficult to achieve with another mega deal brought in this summer...

I have no idea how the cba works but if players have to give 10 percent of their pay back then that 10 percent should come off their cap hit as well.

Leafs would have lots of money.
- bryant

Long story short:

It doesn't.

That 10% is escrow - an insurance to make sure they don't get paid more than 50% of revenues from that season (remember: the cap is an estimate - but they really do go by hard numbers).

Individual player cap hits will remain the same.

Still whining about this eh?
Old news.
Your fuhrer commits racist acts or comments almost daily.

Shoo.
- Fakepartofme

It’s so funny that people can get so hung up on Trudeau. He is so bland and his government is so middle of the road.

Vanilla ice cream is the devil!

Which teams are in a position to a) have the cap space to make a $10 millon/year offer and b) actually have that money to pay him?

Fiscally speaking, winter is coming.

I don't know if NHL owners will even want to play next year if there is no vaccine.

I'm willing to bet a pizza and case of beer there is no AHL season next year.

I'm not saying I know what's going to happen with contracts next year.

I'm saying I don't think anyone knows.
- Atomic Wedgie

I can see teams finding a way for the cream of the crop.

But who knows I guess, you think it's possible a guy like Pietrangelo ends up relegated to having to take a UFA deal for 4 years at 5 mil per?

Id be surprised if it came to that...

Definitely do not have that answer, but I do know that extending Freddie from 5 to 8 (or whatever he gets) is a very different story from bringing in Pietrangelo at 10 outright.

My comment was to mean that Rielly/Andersen extensions would be just another thing that would be very difficult to achieve with another mega deal brought in this summer...
- joel878

Right now, $5 million per year for Freddie seems about right.

I wouldn't give him a raise, and I doubt any NHL GM would, either.

It’s so funny that people can get so hung up on Trudeau. He is so bland and his government is so middle of the road.

Vanilla ice cream is the devil!
- Canada Cup

buy 2 ethics commission investigations, get the 3rd for free.

I can see teams finding a way for the cream of the crop.

But who knows I guess, you think it's possible a guy like Pietrangelo ends up relegated to having to take a UFA deal for 4 years at 5 mil per?

Id be surprised if it came to that...
- joel878

Or like $8 million X 2 years.

But who knows.

It’s so funny that people can get so hung up on Trudeau. He is so bland and his government is so middle of the road.

Vanilla ice cream is the devil!
- Canada Cup

I'm not a huge fan, but it's not like Andrew Scheer would have been the answer.

Stay alseep permanently
- Fakepartofme

Sorry. I tried. Just woke up. (frank)ing communist scum.

Which teams are in a position to a) have the cap space to make a $10 millon/year offer and b) actually have that money to pay him?

Fiscally speaking, winter is coming.

I don't know if NHL owners will even want to play next year if there is no vaccine.

I'm willing to bet a pizza and case of beer there is no AHL season next year.

I'm not saying I know what's going to happen with contracts next year.

I'm saying I don't think anyone knows.
- Atomic Wedgie

And nobody knows how long this is going to last. We don’t know when HRR will get back to $4.5B. UFAs have tough decisions. A bridge makes some sense but what about injury or decline in your play for someone like AP.

It’s so funny that people can get so hung up on Trudeau. He is so bland and his government is so middle of the road.

Vanilla ice cream is the devil!
- Canada Cup

Gotta love Canadian politics.

I hated Stephen Harper - and probably my biggest beef with him was over the size of our census.

But seriously, I franking hated him.