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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 13 @ 12:37 PM ET
Looks like we did them a huge solid taking snakes off their hands before they could give him the long term mega deal.

A way to say thanks for taking Kulemin, Grabovski, Komarov, Martin off of ours I guess. 🤷‍♂️

- joel878


Who’s left, Hossa?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:37 PM ET
Question here for the tech nerds:

Why the frank would anyone care if China has our TikTok information?

What could they possibly use it for? Knowing what music my 11 year old daughter likes to dance to?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:37 PM ET
The total of the Islanders' forwards' salaries (minus Barzal) is around $48 million.

The total of the Leafs' forwards' salaries (minus Marner) is around $42 million.

So it seems to me that the Islanders have surrounded Barzal with a better group of forwards than the Leafs have with Marner.

That logic checks out, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


Around these parts it does.

But honestly, Montreal should take a stab at him for a first second third. Worst case scenario, they (frank) the NYI cash flow the way they (probably) did with the Canes.



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:38 PM ET
yes, and 35 points more last year.

textbook definition of a guy that morphed into 'putting up less production than nylander'..

- MaximusAurelius

You may want to look at the number in the first column.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
Question here for the tech nerds:

Why the frank would anyone care if China has our TikTok information?

What could they possibly use it for? Knowing what music my 11 year old daughter likes to dance to?

- Atomic Wedgie


It's not the tiktok video information. It's their ability to collect data about everything else, through tiktok.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
Around these parts it does.

But honestly, Montreal should take a stab at him for a first second third. Worst case scenario, they (frank) the NYI cash flow the way they (probably) did with the Canes.

- Leafs43

That would be an offer of $8,454,871 per year.

I doubt Barzal signs that.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
Nylander proved last year was an outlier

But whatever

- Santo_44


he didn't really.
he's still a pp specialists that gets lots of point bc being on the wing with matthews/tavares.

are you really saying nylander is in the same category as barzal?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:41 PM ET
It's not the tiktok video information. It's their ability to collect data about everything else, through tiktok.
- TheMussel

Please explain.

Thanks
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:42 PM ET
That would be an offer of $8,454,871 per year.

I doubt Barzal signs that.

- Atomic Wedgie


The idea that this Nylander/Barzal production debate can even be a thing should make some people shake their heads about Willies contract.

Or are those same people thinking Barzal is extending for less than 6 years at 6.9?
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:44 PM ET
That would be an offer of $8,454,871 per year.

I doubt Barzal signs that.

- Atomic Wedgie


Aho did.

Barzal's numbers put him in that category.

Also, can't really compare yourself to the Marners of the world anymore, the world has changed way too much.

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:44 PM ET
he didn't really.
he's still a pp specialists that gets lots of point bc being on the wing with matthews/tavares.

are you really saying nylander is in the same category as barzal?

- MaximusAurelius


You're not making any sense. Did Nylander not have Tavares/Matthews wings to play on during his off year?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:44 PM ET
The idea that this Nylander/Barzal production debate can even be a thing should make some people shake their heads about Willies contract.

Or are those same people thinking Barzal is extending for less than 6 years at 6.9?

- joel878

Remember how Dubas caved, even though he held out until literally the last hour that Nylander could sign?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 13 @ 12:45 PM ET
he didn't really.
he's still a pp specialists that gets lots of point bc being on the wing with matthews/tavares.

are you really saying nylander is in the same category as barzal?

- MaximusAurelius

Good lord this schtick is exhausting.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jul 13 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yeah it's too high but Bergevin does odd things so who knows. Only a dumb organization would do it.
Barzal would have been the 5th or 6th best forward on the Leafs last season.

- RogerRoeper



3rd best F on the Leafs period... maybe even 2nd based on his age...
fixed it for you...
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 13 @ 12:45 PM ET
Please explain.

Thanks

- Atomic Wedgie


I think the main concern is that TikTok installs a proxy on your phone. In lame-man's terms (and keep in mind i'm no scientician so this may not be entirely accurate), all data that goes out your phone (ie. all the porn, bank account info, amazon purchases, contacts, etc.) potentially get routed through the proxy and makes the data visible to tiktok.

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
Aho did.

Barzal's numbers put him in that category.

Also, can't really compare yourself to the Marners of the world anymore, the world has changed way too much
.

- Leafs43

I'm not so sure it will have as big an effect on top guys as some believe.

I think it totally franks guys in the middle range.

But I think (let's revisit in November) top guys will still want and get top dollars.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
You're not making any sense. Did Nylander not have Tavares/Matthews wings to play on during his off year?
- joel878


Nylander is an average 2nd line winger who's lucky he plays with great linemates.
Barzal is a top20 FW in this NHL.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
I think the main concern is that TikTok installs a proxy on your phone. In lame-man's terms (and keep in mind i'm no scientician so this may not be entirely accurate), all data that goes out your phone (ie. all the porn, bank account info, amazon purchases, etc.) potentially get routed through the proxy and makes the data visible to tiktok.
- TheMussel

OK, that makes sense.

Thanks
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
For the next five years, there will be two groups of teams:

Teams in cap hell

Teams in fiscal hell, so they won't be able to use their available cap room.

There won't be any teams that are well positioned, with maybe the exception of Detroit.

- Atomic Wedgie


Agreed
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
Remember how Dubas caved, even though he held out until literally the last hour that Nylander could sign?
- Atomic Wedgie


Nothing screams caving like taking a player to his last 5 minutes of eligibility to play that season...
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 13 @ 12:47 PM ET
Nylander is an average 2nd line winger who's lucky he plays with great linemates.
Barzal is a top20 FW in this NHL.

- MaximusAurelius


I think you might be confusing the difference between opinion and fact.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
Question here for the tech nerds:

Why the frank would anyone care if China has our TikTok information?

What could they possibly use it for? Knowing what music my 11 year old daughter likes to dance to?

- Atomic Wedgie

Wedgie. I hate using this term...but what a (frank)ing Boomer thing to say.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 13 @ 12:50 PM ET
Nylander is an average 2nd line winger who's lucky he plays with great linemates.
Barzal is a top20 FW in this NHL.

- MaximusAurelius



Your cheering for the wrong team in this thread. Just pointing that out for you.

Nonbody gives a flyin (frank) about Brazal, he's not a Leaf.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:50 PM ET



3rd best F on the Leafs period... maybe even 2nd based on his age...
fixed it for you...

- dozerD10

If I was an Islanders fan, I would worry that his first season was an outlier, and that he's not quite that level of player.

And his goals to assists ratio also scares me a little (yes, I said the exact same thing about Marner).
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 13 @ 12:50 PM ET
Barzal has morphed into a guy who puts up less production than Nylander the past 2 years. Trust me on Toronto that would be huge news.
- RogerRoeper

His career he is 0.88 ppg.
This past season he was .88ppg as wll.

Willie is 0.72ppg career
.086 this past season


So what would have been huge news?
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