So no Crawford huh? awesome.. we're pretty much (frank)ed without him tbh, who are we gonna use? Subban? hawks should just say (frank) it and don't even show up for the "playoffs"

And my point is that times and circumstances change. I just don't accept your premise that it is an affront to Lord Stanley to play for his trophy. For the Hawks to win, they would have to win 19 games, and possibly play as many as 33. Is that not long and grueling for you? The players association has agreed to this and 4 more years of labor piece.

And as long as there is (was) a chance to have the playoffs, there was zero chance that the league is going to miss out on the broadcast revenue that they will receive. Or else how does a salary cap of $75 million sound to you. The NHL is to get $200 million from NBC for the US national rights 109 regular season games and 80 playoff games.

And what happens if G-d for bid, we have another serious outbreak of COVID, or another pandemic type catastrophe, and the NHL has to shut down again next year? When would it then be acceptable to play for the Cup. Or maybe we should just lock it up in storage, and get a new trophy and start from year 1?
- LAHawk

It makes the regular season meaningless the battle for the cup also includes the battle though the entire year . The Stanley Cup is the oldest sports trophy in major sports and would like to keep some of it's integrity .This is nothing more then a tournament in the middle of the summer, is why I site the Canada Cup .
Money money money TV contracts that what it comes down to hey .Well pro athletes gobble up all the testing and PPE people in the hardest hit states wait days for results and front line workers are told to reuse PPE . And god forbid they are having a serious out break right now .And this is far from over ..

Phew!

I agree in that I don't think that line works either. On that same line with Nylander, I thought they looked pretty good together. Maybe it was just me but I thought as a whole they were battling, coming away with more loose pucks and extending O Zone time.

Was only a couple games but worth a bit longer look...IMHO.
- HawkintheD

I didn't mention anything about Strome, Nylander and Kane but I do agree I about Kane and Nylander were getting a little sumtin sumtin going.

Strome would be more effective if he could carry the puck more often. Nylander works because he will carry the puck and is pretty decent at entries.

It makes the regular season meaningless the battle for the cup also includes the battle though the entire year . The Stanley Cup is the oldest sports trophy in major sports and would like to keep some of it's integrity .This is nothing more then a tournament in the middle of the summer, is why I site the Canada Cup .
Money money money TV contracts that what it comes down to hey .Well pro athletes gobble up all the testing and PPE people in the hardest hit states wait days for results and front line workers are told to reuse PPE . And god forbid they are having a serious out break right now .And this is far from over ..
- oldduffman

Seriously. We understand your point. Stop belaboring it. They played 7/8th of the season. Teams will have won the most PO games ever to win the Stanley Cup.

In actuality, pro teams are using their own independent testing agencies in order to not take test away from the public.

Seriously. We understand your point. Stop belaboring it. They played 7/8th of the season. Teams will have won the most PO games ever to win the Stanley Cup.

In actuality, pro teams are using their own independent testing agencies in order to not take test away from the public.
- Elbows15

Just replying to a post .Using their own well yes I guess if they pay bigger bucks then the public can they would have their own . . If those agencies were not so busy with the pro sports maybe they could have help out with the crush in some of the hot spots . So really they are taking away from the public . One basket ball player tweeted he has been tested 20 times !! since going in the bubble .Little overkill I would think to cover their butts

Just replying to a post .Using their own well yes I guess if they pay bigger bucks then the public can they would have their own . . If those agencies were not so busy with the pro sports maybe they could have help out with the crush in some of the hot spots . So really they are taking away from the public . One basket ball player tweeted he has been tested 20 times !! since going in the bubble .Little overkill I would think to cover their butts
- oldduffman

I’m guessing they might do batch testing to cut down on the total amount of tests required.

So no Crawford huh? awesome.. we're pretty much (frank)ed without him tbh, who are we gonna use? Subban? hawks should just say (frank) it and don't even show up for the "playoffs"
- MichaeLionheart

Agreed, should roll out Rockford Rocky makes/loses the same amount of money.

Looks like your gov is shutting it down again, that sucks
- BetweenTheDots

For 3 days, we open, we shut down. The Mayor of LA calls the cops killers, schools are going to be virtual, but they promise the teachers are going to teach. You don t think I would love to just watch some hockey?

Just replying to a post .Using their own well yes I guess if they pay bigger bucks then the public can they would have their own . . If those agencies were not so busy with the pro sports maybe they could have help out with the crush in some of the hot spots . So really they are taking away from the public . One basket ball player tweeted he has been tested 20 times !! since going in the bubble .Little overkill I would think to cover their butts
- oldduffman

So the wealthy and the connected have access to better healthcare, Do you think this is a new phenomena just uncovered by this pandemic, and is limited to the US?

So the wealthy and the connected have access to better healthcare, Do you think this is a new phenomena just uncovered by this pandemic, and is limited to the US?
- LAHawk

No augment with you there . Was hoping during a Pandemic maybe the leagues might look to be part of the solution not the problem .

No augment with you there . Was hoping during a Pandemic maybe the leagues might look to be part of the solution not the problem .
- oldduffman

It's not like they haven't done anything. All of the leagues and the athletes have donated tens of millions of dollars, including medical equip, and other supplies for health care. The UC was transformed into a logistics hub for food and supply donations. Almost every name player has donated money (in addition to money they have raised through foundations). I believe most if not all teams have paid their staff - including arena workers - for the rest of the season.

Can they always do more? Sure, but it's not like they've been sitting on their hands the whole time. Canada does not appear to have the same problem with testing supplies and personnel that the US does (which could simply be due to the total population). I'm sure they've been in contact with local authorities on the matter.

BTW Laakinen was the full time backstop when Finland won gold in the 2019 World Cup Tournament. By all accounts he played well.

BTW Laakinen was the full time backstop when Finland won gold in the 2019 World Cup Tournament. By all accounts he played well.
- jhawk59

That is factual, I only saw two games, only really paid attention to Championship game.

He was lights out.

We'll see I guess if he can be again, though I guess his injury could hold him back.

I’m guessing they might do batch testing to cut down on the total amount of tests required.
- Ogilthorpe2

Batch testing your right teste more people , however if you get a positive test back you either retest each player or quarantine that entire group. That's the only negative about batch testing is you cant identify the individual person. Who has it .

As has been discussed here a few times, the Hawks are in the mix for Swiss League forward Pius Suter.

Add Suter and Lafreniere and call it a day.

As has been discussed here a few times, the Hawks are in the mix for Swiss League forward Pius Suter.

Add Suter and Lafreniere and call it a day.
- HawkintheD

You say pious for Suter and downright giddy over LaFraniere landing in chicsgo

I smell a draft rat...

The Pittsburgh Penguins will be voluntarily sidelining nine players from their training camp roster due to potential secondary exposure to an individual who had contact with a person that has tested positive for the COVID-19 virus.
- rpeters01

The line rushes on their first day of practice also contained all of their starters except Hornquest. The only other players missing were their Black Aces. Given how deep the Penguins are, it's likely the players being held out would never have seen ice time anyway.

No augment with you there . Was hoping during a Pandemic maybe the leagues might look to be part of the solution not the problem .
- oldduffman

Los Angeles has more cases than all of Canada, and if Los Angeles was a country, would have the 20th most cases in the world. The Kings and Ducks are not even if the play-in games. So do you think it is the NHL trying to start the playoffs, or some other factor for this sudden rise, after LA was held up as the model for having so few cases at the beginning.

There is no shortage of tests here, and anyone can get it for free. There are 40 testing sites in Los Angeles county, Dodger stadium is the main one and no appointment is needed. You get your results in a day. Oh, they were closed for a couple of days when we had the BLM pogroms.

It's not like they haven't done anything. All of the leagues and the athletes have donated tens of millions of dollars, including medical equip, and other supplies for health care. The UC was transformed into a logistics hub for food and supply donations. Almost every name player has donated money (in addition to money they have raised through foundations). I believe most if not all teams have paid their staff - including arena workers - for the rest of the season.

Can they always do more? Sure, but it's not like they've been sitting on their hands the whole time. Canada does not appear to have the same problem with testing supplies and personnel that the US does (which could simply be due to the total population). I'm sure they've been in contact with local authorities on the matter.
- Chunk

A lot of those teams were doing nothing and not paying any of their front line workers until players started stepping up and paying workers out of their own pockets .And shamed the owners into paying .

All I am saying is all the owners had to do was wait a couple more months and try start the new season on time . Saying that looking at the mess the states has made of this pandemic it will be awhile before any real sports will be played down their .
So I guess we might as well sit back and enjoy this inferior NHL product presented by the league .Will there even be contact .Sports teams are allowed to resume in Ontario starting Friday as long as there is no contact .I imagine there will be different rules for pro athletes as there always is .

Los Angeles has more cases than all of Canada, and if Los Angeles was a country, would have the 20th most cases in the world. The Kings and Ducks are not even if the play-in games. So do you think it is the NHL trying to start the playoffs, or some other factor for this sudden rise, after LA was held up as the model for having so few cases at the beginning.

There is no shortage of tests here, and anyone can get it for free. There are 40 testing sites in Los Angeles county, Dodger stadium is the main one and no appointment is needed. You get your results in a day. Oh, they were closed for a couple of days when we had the BLM pogroms.
- LAHawk

Well you would know far more then I would on the state of affairs in LA .I am just going by what I here and see on the TV and the presidents one crony saying he and his family had to wait a week to get results ,and the long car lines for test 12 hours or more .Or the Vice President tell front line workers to reuse PPE . And city closing back down but hey I guess you guy's got it all under control .

A lot of those teams were doing nothing and not paying any of their front line workers until players started stepping up and paying workers out of their own pockets .And shamed the owners into paying .

All I am saying is all the owners had to do was wait a couple more months and try start the new season on time . Saying that looking at the mess the states has made of this pandemic it will be awhile before any real sports will be played down their .
So I guess we might as well sit back and enjoy this inferior NHL product presented by the league .Will there even be contact .Sports teams are allowed to resume in Ontario starting Friday as long as there is no contact .I imagine there will be different rules for pro athletes as there always is .
- oldduffman

Most likely, they would not be in any better position then than they are now. So they would have to run the league under virtually the same conditions. We get the fact you don't like this entire format (and many here don't disagree with you). I'm not trying to tell you how to feel. I'm just saying that regardless of when they restart, whether now or wait a few months to start the next season, the overall product will likely look very similar - Players in a bubble and doing a ton of testing (theoretically taking resources away from the public).

Most likely, they would not be in any better position then than they are now. So they would have to run the league under virtually the same conditions. We get the fact you don't like this entire format (and many here don't disagree with you). I'm not trying to tell you how to feel. I'm just saying that regardless of when they restart, whether now or wait a few months to start the next season, the overall product will likely look very similar - Players in a bubble and doing a ton of testing (theoretically taking resources away from the public).
- Chunk

Yes I think I have been harping on this far to long I am done .I will stick to hockey related topics .And keep a critical eye on this up coming tournament . Thanks Chuck you are a voice of reason on this board .

Well you would know far more then I would on the state of affairs in LA .I am just going by what I here and see on the TV and the presidents one crony saying he and his family had to wait a week to get results ,and the long car lines for teat 12 hours or more .Or the Vice President tell front line workers to reuse PPE . And city closing back down but hey I guess you guy's got it all under control .
- oldduffman

Not that the main stream media has an agenda? As Thomas Mann said, everything is political.

Where do I say we got it under control? My point is we do not have this under control, and all these rules that change daily, show an administration (both federal and local), that are flailing. When asked, Garcetti would not commit (which in his language means no) to arresting anyone who is protesting (and the peaceful part pu forth by the main stream media is a crock) for not wearing a mask. But we close the beaches in 100 degree weather because a few might not social distance. You don't think that people (and don't say MAGA followers in Los Angeles, there aren't any) are saying a big FU, you let people protest and destroy property and they don't have to wear a mask (let alone spend even 10 minutes in jail), but you tell a restaurant owner he can open on July 1 under social distancing rules, on July 3 you tell him he has to close all in dining, and now he has to close for 3 days and it will be reevaluated.

But as far as the NHL (or basketball or baseball) starting preparations to get the leagues going again has ZERO to do with the spike in COVID cases. You are going to tell me that the "peaceful" protesters not wearing masks had nothing to do with the spike in COVID cases/ that is what our governor. mayor and the main stream media want you to believe. Garcetti sort of half relented on that falsehood in his news conference yesterday.

A lot of those teams were doing nothing and not paying any of their front line workers until players started stepping up and paying workers out of their own pockets .And shamed the owners into paying .

All I am saying is all the owners had to do was wait a couple more months and try start the new season on time . Saying that looking at the mess the states has made of this pandemic it will be awhile before any real sports will be played down their .
So I guess we might as well sit back and enjoy this inferior NHL product presented by the league .Will there even be contact .Sports teams are allowed to resume in Ontario starting Friday as long as there is no contact .I imagine there will be different rules for pro athletes as there always is .
- oldduffman

No big deal, it is only $400M you're generously asking them to give up. $200M each. Then again it isn't your money, so the choice is easy.

Yes I think I have been harping on this far to long I am done .I will stick to hockey related topics .And keep a critical eye on this up coming tournament . Thanks Chuck you are a voice of reason on this board .
- oldduffman

Even though I disagree on the topic, it seems to be a hockey topic to me.