668710
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Lemieux
Jagr
Mullen
Stevens (since it's not gonna be in Vegas) - jmatchett383
You can add Jagr under that Vegas category as well haha |
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668710
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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It's bizarre how bad this PP can be sometimes. - Rinosaur
If Sid would let some rip more often that would help a bit. Not all on him just saying he can overpass. |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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If Sid would let some rip more often that would help a bit. Not all on him just saying he can overpass. - 668710
There's just too much deferring in general. The two things that frustrate me the worst:
1) Letang. At least from my perspective, he doesn't shoot when he has wide open lanes and takes too many shots with no clear lanes. I don't mean shooting into traffic in front of the goalie, but just shooting into too much traffic all around.
2) Malkin at the point. It just shouldn't happen. He's shown to be lethal at the circles and he's there far less than he should be. Plus he's a liability at the point. |
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Tojo.
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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If Sid would let some rip more often that would help a bit. Not all on him just saying he can overpass. - 668710
There's just too much deferring in general. The two things that frustrate me the worst:
1) Letang. At least from my perspective, he doesn't shoot when he has wide open lanes and takes too many shots with no clear lanes. I don't mean shooting into traffic in front of the goalie, but just shooting into too much traffic all around.
2) Malkin at the point. It just shouldn't happen. He's shown to be lethal at the circles and he's there far less than he should be. Plus he's a liability at the point. - Rinosaur
Sid with that straight blade just doesn't have that cannon shot from the circle.
Agree on Letang. He also has never been good at putting the puck in a great spot for Malkin to one-time it. That's one thing Schultz actually does better. And of course Malkin's shot is the best option and with no RH threat they can cheat that way.
The PP is better than we often think it is, but they do miss Kessel there. I think it will be worse though when Hornqvist geta taken away drom net front for Guentzel which they'll surely do. Guentzel is a much more talented goal scorer so I understand wanting him out there, but Hornqvist is still one of the best in the sport at that role, and the goals always suffer without him. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Sid down low. All PP long. |
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Tojo.
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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Out of players with 100 minutes of PP time, a sample that includes the 245 players used most, Hornqvist is 23rd in goals/60, 5th in expected goals per 60.
There are actually 5 Penguins in the top 14 in expected goals per 60: Hornqvist, Crosby, Malkin, Rust, and Letang. Maybe just run that? I think a big part of the reason it isn't ranked higher is just how often we didn't have Malkin or Crosby. |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Out of players with 100 minutes of PP time, a sample that includes the 245 players used most, Hornqvist is 23rd in goals/60, 5th in expected goals per 60.
There are actually 5 Penguins in the top 14 in expected goals per 60: Hornqvist, Crosby, Malkin, Rust, and Letang. Maybe just run that? I think a big part of the reason it isn't ranked higher is just how often we didn't have Malkin or Crosby. - Tojo.
I feel like so much of the issues stem from communicating and timing. The zone-entries are just downright atrocious at times and just too much deferring. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Sid with that straight blade just doesn't have that cannon shot from the circle.
Agree on Letang. He also has never been good at putting the puck in a great spot for Malkin to one-time it. That's one thing Schultz actually does better. And of course Malkin's shot is the best option and with no RH threat they can cheat that way.
The PP is better than we often think it is, but they do miss Kessel there. I think it will be worse though when Hornqvist geta taken away drom net front for Guentzel which they'll surely do. Guentzel is a much more talented goal scorer so I understand wanting him out there, but Hornqvist is still one of the best in the sport at that role, and the goals always suffer without him. - Tojo.
We definitely need to figure out the right shot for the PP 1 next season. Something as simple and inexpensive like a bottom six guy that can be a PP specialist would do wonders for this unit. Think the right handed version of Brandon Pirri. It's one of the reasons I wanted Palmieri so badly (Notre Dame guy aside). Not the sexiest top 6 option in the world but would contribute more than enough at 5v5 and really improve the PP. |
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Tojo.
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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I feel like so much of the issues stem from communicating and timing. The zone-entries are just downright atrocious at times and just too much deferring. - Rinosaur
Yeah the zone entries are frustrating and too often they waste a whole PP not setting up. But at the end of the night, when they have all their guys, they tend to get more than their fair share of good looks and score more often than most teams. It's not as smooth as with Keasel, but not as bad as it often gets made out to be. |
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Tojo.
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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We definitely need to figure out the right shot for the PP 1 next season. Something as simple and inexpensive like a bottom six guy that can be a PP specialist would do wonders for this unit. Think the right handed version of Brandon Pirri. It's one of the reasons I wanted Palmieri so badly (Notre Dame guy aside). Not the sexiest top 6 option in the world but would contribute more than enough at 5v5 and really improve the PP. - Victoro311
Yeah, Palmieri would have been a nice fit, though I'm not upset they went Zucker instead. I would not mind at all if they could find a guy like that.
But I'm plugging your boy Brian Rust, so why aren't you with me, LOL? 19th in the league in goals/60, 13th in expected goals per 60. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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It's bizarre how bad this PP can be sometimes. - Rinosaur
PP is about as good as China’s handling of the virus. |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Sid down low. All PP long. - MattStrat
Lol you said PP long. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Yeah, Palmieri would have been a nice fit, though I'm not upset they went Zucker instead. I would not mind at all if they could find a guy like that.
But I'm plugging your boy Brian Rust, so why aren't you with me, LOL? 19th in the league in goals/60, 13th in expected goals per 60. - Tojo.
Yeah I mean tough to be upset. Palmieri would make our PP better, but Zucker is the better overall player who makes our 5v5 product better and can still be used on special teams (PK/PP2). It’s already an obvious choice but factor in the contract situations it’s no contest.
Obviously I think Rust is the best winger we have, but I don’t think he can do what we need the left for guy to do in order to improve our PP. I think he would do well down low on a PP 1, but you know we have like 4 players informe of him for that spot. We have a crazy amount of down low/net front offensive talent between Sid, Hornqvist, Zucker, and G. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Lol you said PP long. - Feds91Stammer
Hahaha |
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powerhouse
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Directed to MattStrat:
I tip my had to you and all of Canada, sir. Well done. America could learn a thing or two... |
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Tojo.
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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Yeah I mean tough to be upset. Palmieri would make our PP better, but Zucker is the better overall player who makes our 5v5 product better and can still be used on special teams (PK/PP2). It’s already an obvious choice but factor in the contract situations it’s no contest.
Obviously I think Rust is the best winger we have, but I don’t think he can do what we need the left for guy to do in order to improve our PP. I think he would do well down low on a PP 1, but you know we have like 4 players informe of him for that spot. We have a crazy amount of down low/net front offensive talent between Sid, Hornqvist, Zucker, and G. - Victoro311
Rust and Sid were sort of switching off from the slot and LW boards and it was working pretty well. I believe our numbers went up when Sid came back, Guentzel was out, and they were sort of forced to use that group. Just looked it up and that group scored 9 PP goals in 50 minutes together so it showed good promise.
I agree a Palmieri or someone similar would be an upgrade. I do feel it's more want than need though. |
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MattStrat
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Directed to MattStrat:
I tip my had to you and all of Canada, sir. Well done. America could learn a thing or two... - powerhouse
Why thank you sir. It was pretty trying times, but worth it for the quality of life we've had the past 5 or 6 weeks. Most everything opened back up, with changes of course, .. and it's certainly not over but we seem to be keeping pretty steady now.
We actually just had the first case in I believe 47 days in my city today... Someone returning home from Texas... |
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Directed to MattStrat:
I tip my had to you and all of Canada, sir. Well done. America could learn a thing or two... - powerhouse
Canada sucks. It’s just cold California. |
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