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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 9 @ 11:28 PM ET
Rather get the 7th rounder back for that trade for Mazanec(sp?), the goalie from a couple years back.
- Reubenkincade


So you think Anderson is damaged goods cause he threw his meddle into the stands?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 11:29 PM ET
Isn't this in 1 of the cities chosen as a hub?


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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 9 @ 11:32 PM ET
So you think Anderson is damaged goods cause he threw his meddle into the stands?
- NuckUp


He is obviously of questionable character, with the incident you mention and his wanting out of New York organization.
The kid has done nothing and doesn't seem to be the type of character Benning has wanted.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:40 PM ET
C'mon man, that contract was never meant to be played out. If it was there would have been restructuring (in the player's favour) over the last few years.

The real shame about that contract is that after it was approved by league offices it was subject to different rules. If the contract isn't fair, just reject it. Don't punish it later by saying it circumvented league rules, stay ahead of that poop.

The deal would never have been signed, maybe he would have signed a different deal and maybe we would have had to press on with Schneider/FA.

- golfingsince


True or not, I believe the story was that the league did warn teams about it prior to them signing these deals. That doesn't legitimize it but if true does put some of he onus on the teams who signed those deals.

I think here was at least one deal the fit the criteria but was exempt because of when it was signed. Lecavalier perhaps?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 9 @ 11:51 PM ET
He is obviously of questionable character, with the incident you mention and his wanting out of New York organization.
The kid has done nothing and doesn't seem to be the type of character Benning has wanted.

- Reubenkincade


Well off to the Oilers for "Pool Party" then.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 9 @ 11:54 PM ET
True or not, I believe the story was that the league did warn teams about it prior to them signing these deals. That doesn't legitimize it but if true does put some of he onus on the teams who signed those deals.

I think here was at least one deal the fit the criteria but was exempt because of when it was signed. Lecavalier perhaps?

- belcherbd
Rules are rules. You work within them. We did. The NHL should just admit it's Lawyers fuked up and move on. Teams basically paid the price for pointing this out and we still are.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 10 @ 12:02 AM ET
Rules are rules. You work within them. We did. The NHL should just admit it's Lawyers fuked up and move on. Teams basically paid the price for pointing this out and we still are.
- Load Management


I'm not saying it isn't fair, but I don't have much sympathy the teams affected, assuming they were in fact warned.

That teams avoid it through LTIR is more annoying to me.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 10 @ 12:12 AM ET
I'm not saying it isn't fair, but I don't have much sympathy the teams affected, assuming they were in fact warned.

That teams avoid it through LTIR is more annoying to me.

- belcherbd

The goalposts moved.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 10 @ 12:23 AM ET
You've made it awfully clear you're opposed to the NHL starting again, you rarely agree with anything the franchise does, you hate management, coaching staff, most of the players, I can't remember the last time you said anything positive about anything Canuck related, you barely talk hockey and on the slight chance you do - it's usually with very little substance so WTF are you here everyday?
- Brooks_Light


Doing everything he can to drive people away from Carols blogs obviously...
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jul 10 @ 12:51 AM ET
Doing everything he can to drive people away from Carols blogs obviously...

- boonerbuck
So....we won't be seeing you at the picnic?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 10 @ 1:08 AM ET


I would say this guy made you a fan...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gs...EwoiRtTAww5cBVURuvn7FxA&s

- Reubenkincade

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:24 AM ET
Here is a illustration of this cap issue . Using our draft picks that everyone covets.

Marky 5 mil
Jake 2.5
Gauds 2.0
Rafferty 925 k
Tryamkin1.5
Stecher 1.5
Zack 1.0
Sven 1.1
Raffery 925k
Briesbois 925k.


To those that cant count that is 16.0

JTM Petey Brock
Pearson Bo Jake
Ferland Gauds Zack
Roussel Beagle Sutter
Sven

Edler Stecher
Hughes Myers
Tryankin Benn
Briesbois
Rafferty

Marky
Demko.

Cap Compliant and good use of your prospects, No buyouts no giving up picks or prospects
Suck it B1tches Cap Hell Cap Hell wah wah wah.


- VANTEL


Top 10 league wide.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 2:12 AM ET
The goalposts moved.
- Load Management

Retroactive is bs though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 2:15 AM ET
Top 10 league wide.
- bloatedmosquito

Losing Toffoli & Tanev & keep Stecher no thx.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 2:45 AM ET
Losing Toffoli & Tanev & keep Stecher no thx.
- Nighthawk



I am just showing a cap compliant worse case scenario . Of course they will upgrade .That is a choice the team will make to go shopping, Upgrade .It is a choice , not a necessity..

The thing that surprises me is you do have these prospects that are ready here , but the fans saying no thanks.

For as much complaining that a fan base does to want to collect all these second and third round picks but then they never want to see them play here. Huh. Strange.

I bet though even though we are not going to use them the fans will scream bloody murder for years as soon as we trade one


Bed time . Love your neighbors even the transgender ones
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 10 @ 2:47 AM ET
Losing Toffoli & Tanev & keep Stecher no thx.
- Nighthawk


Yeah, no way this team becomes good enough to be top 10 with a roster that’s weaker than this seasons.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 3:07 AM ET
I am just showing a cap compliant worse case scenario . Of course they will upgrade .That is a choice the team will make to go shopping, Upgrade .It is a choice , not a necessity..

The thing that surprises me is you do have these prospects that are ready here , but the fans saying no thanks.

For as much complaining that a fan base does to want to collect all these second and third round picks but then they never want to see them play here. Huh. Strange.

I bet though even though we are not going to use them the fans will scream bloody murder for years as soon as we trade one


Bed time . Love your neighbors even the transgender ones

- VANTEL


A Capfriendly ACGM Risto line up for you.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/1789547
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 3:20 AM ET
I am just showing a cap compliant worse case scenario . Of course they will upgrade .That is a choice the team will make to go shopping, Upgrade .It is a choice , not a necessity..

The thing that surprises me is you do have these prospects that are ready here , but the fans saying no thanks.

For as much complaining that a fan base does to want to collect all these second and third round picks but then they never want to see them play here. Huh. Strange.

I bet though even though we are not going to use them the fans will scream bloody murder for years as soon as we trade one



Bed time . Love your neighbors even the transgender ones

- VANTEL



Fans want to see prospects in the bigs when they're ready.
Obviously the coach we have wants to put in players he trusts.

Nighthawk can pencil in Hoglander and Podz into top 9 rolls for next year, plus 2 rookie Dmen in Rathbone and Brogan Rafferty.
Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

I'd like to see Hoglander or Lind push for a spot next year at training camp.
Not both.

Same on D.
I'd like Tree, OJ or Brogan to push for a role (I have little confidence in the other Comets) to grab that #6 spot.

You can only shelter so many rookies and demote pro's imo




golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 10 @ 3:21 AM ET
True or not, I believe the story was that the league did warn teams about it prior to them signing these deals. That doesn't legitimize it but if true does put some of he onus on the teams who signed those deals.

I think here was at least one deal the fit the criteria but was exempt because of when it was signed. Lecavalier perhaps?

- belcherbd

It seems the deal that had the most stink about it was Kovalchuk's , maybe it was his. I did hear that as well but putting it in retroactively and allowing half the league off on technicalities is brutal. It made a mockery of it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 3:48 AM ET
Fans want to see prospects in the bigs when they're ready.
Obviously the coach we have wants to put in players he trusts.

Nighthawk can pencil in Hoglander and Podz into top 9 rolls for next year, plus 2 rookie Dmen in Rathbone and Brogan Rafferty.
Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

I'd like to see Hoglander or Lind push for a spot next year at training camp.
Not both.

Same on D.
I'd like Tree, OJ or Brogan to push for a role (I have little confidence in the other Comets) to grab that #6 spot.

You can only shelter so many rookies and demote pro's imo

- dbot

4 rookies are highly unlikely yes. 2 I can see are Rathbone if signed & Rafferty. Hoglander in tough unless the F logjam is loosened up. Pod May 1st is likely.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 4:01 AM ET
4 rookies are highly unlikely yes. 2 I can see are Rathbone if signed & Rafferty. Hoglander in tough unless the F logjam is loosened up. Pod May 1st is likely.
- Nighthawk

4 Rookies is extremely unlikely but that does not change the fact that they are ready now. Out of all 4 will probably only see one of them be a full time Canuck.

They are currency and just like when Madden was used as currency the fan base screamed murder even though we have 3 excellent young centers and would not see action for 3 to 4 years as a bottom 6 player.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 4:06 AM ET
4 Rookies is extremely unlikely but that does not change the fact that they are ready now. Out of all 4 will probably only see one of them be a full time Canuck.

They are currency and just like when Madden was used as currency the fan base screamed murder even though we have 3 excellent young centers and would not see action for 3 to 4 years as a bottom 6 player.

- VANTEL

Going to be fun times ahead
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 10 @ 9:41 AM ET

- Marwood


you do have love in your heart!!! There's hope for you yet!!!
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 10 @ 9:44 AM ET
4 rookies are highly unlikely yes. 2 I can see are Rathbone if signed & Rafferty. Hoglander in tough unless the F logjam is loosened up. Pod May 1st is likely.
- Nighthawk


I don't understand your boner for this kid? You got him penciled into every lineup you make lately. Don't get me wrong he had a good sophomore year but The kid isn't even signed and hasn't played a professional game yet. Might wanna pump the brakes there big trucker.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jul 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Fans want to see prospects in the bigs when they're ready.
Obviously the coach we have wants to put in players he trusts.

Nighthawk can pencil in Hoglander and Podz into top 9 rolls for next year, plus 2 rookie Dmen in Rathbone and Brogan Rafferty.
Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

I'd like to see Hoglander or Lind push for a spot next year at training camp.
Not both.


Same on D.
I'd like Tree, OJ or Brogan to push for a role (I have little confidence in the other Comets) to grab that #6 spot.

You can only shelter so many rookies and demote pro's imo

- dbot


The problem is, with our F log jam, how do you make that decision AFTER training camp? Lind might be a bit easier to work into a bottom 6 role, but you want Hoglander in the top 6.

So, does that mean not signing TT so you can pencil Hoglander in? I guess it depends on where JB feels his development is at, and if he's ready to step into a role that big.
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