His offensive advanced stats also sunk like a stone this year.

On Frolik: Sure. He stinks.
- kingcong39

Except the numbers Pach posted (top of page36) make it look like he doesn’t stink (Frolik)

Vanek = goal scorer

Sabres were the worst goal scoring team in the league.

Seemed like a need.
- Boss34

Well we can re-hash this all out again...
or we can just remember all the reasons i pointed out that he wasn’t a fit obviously rang true,
since the Sabres didn’t even bother to contact him

AGAIN...
I’m not saying if we had Bonino that Smith would definitely sign here like you were saying with Vanek

Just saying it wouldn’t hurt
And i, as well as many others, believe that both players would be a help to us

If u don’t like Bonino &/or Smith,
just say that... and why

No need to restart an old debate that’s long since been settled

Highly doubt Vanek would have come back here, seemed like the only way he was gonna play was for a team with a shot.
- Buff36

Gambling isnt free 36 😉

Had the Botterill/ amerks connection too

Well we can re-hash this all out again...
or we can just remember all the reasons i pointed out that he wasn’t a fit obviously rang true,
since the Sabres didn’t even bother to contact him

AGAIN...
I’m not saying if we had Bonino that Smith would definitely sign here like you were saying with Vanek

Just saying it wouldn’t hurt
And i, as well as many others, believe that both players would be a help to us

If u don’t like Bonino &/or Smith,
just say that... and why

No need to restart an old debate that’s long since been settled
- jdfitz77

So you're not betting "standard " avatar bet that bonino and/or smith are signing here?

You've mentioned bonino often

Except the numbers Pach posted (top of page36) make it look like he doesn’t stink (Frolik)
- jdfitz77

Those same numbers also make it look like Bennett is good, which he is not.

What moves will have to be made to say have a few UFA'S want to sign here. Are we that much in the dog poop that we might only be able to add players to the team via only trades.
- Buff36

I wouldn't sign in buffalo .. im thinking players that get pricey come to buffalo like Brian Boyle lol

Gambling isnt free 36 😉

Had the Botterill/ amerks connection too
- Boss34

I understand that Boss, and you could be right, but he did a interview and said himself it would have to be the right situation.

Highly doubt Vanek would have come back here, seemed like the only way he was gonna play was for a team with a shot.
- Buff36

He tried coming back 3 times got rejected all 3

He tried coming back 3 times got rejected all 3
- gerbe75pts

Who told you that Gerbe, he even said in his interview it had to be for the right situation.

I wouldn't sign in buffalo .. im thinking players that get pricey come to buffalo like Brian Boyle lol
- gerbe75pts

Players aren't going to have the same situation in FA as they have in the past, especially with supposedly 16 teams already with 70+ mill committed. I think it will still be difficult, but think that helps.

Who told you that Gerbe, he even said in his interview it had to be for the right situation.
- Buff36

He said he tried once 2016 and the others times my dad told me

I understand that Boss, and you could be right, but he did a interview and said himself it would have to be the right situation.
- Buff36

🤝

Good post

So you're not betting "standard " avatar bet that bonino and/or smith are signing here?

You've mentioned bonino often
- Boss34

Why would i?

1- it’s an idea of a guy that can help,
not a guy I’m saying will DEFINITELY BE HERE

2- he’s not even a free agent,
it would have to be a trade


Really seems like your just trying to start sh!t for no reason
No thanks sir. Have a good day

Those same numbers also make it look like Bennett is good, which he is not.
- kingcong39

That’s EXACTLY my point with analytics
Thank you

I like Bennett I think hes a steve ott clone if used right

He said he tried once 2016 and the others times my dad told me
- gerbe75pts

That's cool, I thought we were talking recently.

Your posting has been excellent btw recently 👍

Much like the Sabres, the Bill's have an issue keeping good players. We had the 17 year playoff draught. terrible coaching and good ol western ny weather.

Gilmore wanted out, or wanted in to the patriots.
Free agency comes quick in the nfl

Definitely could have drafted mahomes at 10, but I think the Bill's were "tanking" for a qb, the following year.

We ended up 9-7 and had to negotiate our way up to pick ja17.

At least tre white is a top corner.......

Glad we didnt trade a couple picks to move up 1 spot and draft mitch trabinski...
- Boss34

I told my one buddy it was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever done. They needed a QB, they determined neither were good enough, and traded down.

The following year, they still needed a QB, traded up, and realistically they still need a QB.

I had Mayfield ranked 1st, Jackson as 2nd, darnold as 3rd, and Rosen as 4th. Allen was my 5th rated QB out of the projected 1st rounders.

Last year the bills would have had the best team in the NFL if they didnt move back during the Watson/Mahomes draft.

This is why I question Mcdermott ability to evalute. They royally messed up those two drafts.

That's cool, I thought we were talking recently.
- Buff36

I think the bet was from the 2017-18 season? Botts 1st year ,when he stole pommer in the trade from Minnesota 👊

That's cool, I thought we were talking recently.
- Buff36

He tried this year but got rejected also he was trying really hard had nothing but great things to say about the organization and offered to go on wgr550 to talk about the coach

Players that could help, or players that we think should be brought in.
DeMelo RD to pair with Dahlin until Joker is ready
Montour-Asplund 20212nd pick to Vegas for Alex Tuch, Chandler Stephenson 2020 3rd rnd.
Sign Smith 3yr deal
Rhino-Risto to Calgary for Monahan and 2020 or 21 2nd rnd pick.

I told my one buddy it was the biggest mistake this franchise has ever done. They needed a QB, they determined neither were good enough, and traded down.

The following year, they still needed a QB, traded up, and realistically they still need a QB.

I had Mayfield ranked 1st, Jackson as 2nd, darnold as 3rd, and Rosen as 4th. Allen was my 5th rated QB out of the projected 1st rounders.

Last year the bills would have had the best team in the NFL if they didnt move back during the Watson/Mahomes draft.

This is why I question Mcdermott ability to evalute. They royally messed up those two drafts.
- Mentalorgasm5

Theres plenty of bigger bills mistakes. Mahomes went 10th overall. Is it the other 9 teams biggest mistake ever?

Darius at 3 instead of JJ watt recently
Terrell troupe 1 pick ahead of williamsville native gronk

Rob Johnson era in general

I love allen. I think he's a top pro qb. I'm also a homer.
Likeable off field guy too.

Mahomes has one of the best offensive coaches in the league . Top wr, te and offensivein general.

Beane our gm wasnt here for the pick either.
Plus the best cb in the league was the pick.

Players that could help, or players that we think should be brought in.
DeMelo RD to pair with Dahlin until Joker is ready
Montour-Asplund 20212nd pick to Vegas for Alex Tuch, Chandler Stephenson 2020 3rd rnd.
Sign Smith 3yr deal
Rhino-Risto to Calgary for Monahan and 2020 or 21 2nd rnd pick.
- Buff36

Gross thats way too much

Gross thats way too much
- gerbe75pts

What is way to much Monahan and a 2nd for Rhino and Risto

Not saying it wasn’t, but they got a All-Pro and a MLB and QB that hopefully turns into the man.
- Buff36

The could have still selected Edmunds, kept Gillmore, and took Mahomes.

I am not a bills fan, and I will say White is the best CB in the game, doesnt matter, no one would want White and Allen for Mahomes.

The could have still selected Edmunds, kept Gillmore, and took Mahomes.

I am not a bills fan, and I will say White is the best CB in the game, doesnt matter, no one would want White and Allen for Mahomes.
- Mentalorgasm5

Gilmore was a FA, they could have tagged him I guess, but rumor had it he didn't want to be here. And they used the 1st rnd pick they got in 2018 to select Edmunds.