Joel Siegel
@joelmsiegel
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Re-read this every year, and it is still hard to believe: To avoid paying Bonilla $5.9M in 2000 - in part so they could invest more money with Bernie Madoff - Wilpons agreed to pay Bonilla $1.19 M a year from 2011 to 2035, when he will be 72!! Put Bonilla's agent in Hall of Fame!
- jimbro83

DeAngelos ice time is effected by fact he doesn’t kill penalties. On the flip side, he averaged over 3 minutes a game on PP, where he scored 19 of his points. I’m not saying he’s a bad player, I just think he’s going to want a long term deal starting at 5mil plus. That would be over kill.
- junaka3

Right handed d-man are hard to come by. The fact Tony appears to be a point machine adds to it. He stands up for his teammates too which is always a plus in my book.

Imagine we a had a 3rd/4th line winger with limited minutes who was in his 2nd full year and was in the top 5 in points in the league. Would you be willing to trade him? Because thats what we are talking about with Tony basically. And I would argue its harder to find a right handed d man like that than a winger.


He also is turning into one hell of a QB on the PP. How many years have we all been complaining we don't have a good QB for the PP?

I see no down side with Tony

I mean if you dont want to give Tony D 5 million a year, basically you want him gone

Skjei never even approached the year that Tony D was having
- jimbro83

Further, it also means you're unwilling to pay young guys because of something that happened with another player. Can't run an org like that.

Right handed d-man are hard to come by. The fact Tony appears to be a point machine adds to it. He stands up for his teammates too which is always a plus in my book.

Imagine we a had a 3rd/4th line winger with limited minutes who was in his 2nd full year and was in the top 5 in points in the league. Would you be willing to trade him? Because thats what we are talking about with Tony basically. And I would argue its harder to find a right handed d man like that than a winger.


He also is turning into one hell of a QB on the PP. How many years have we all been complaining we don't have a good QB for the PP?

I see no down side with Tony
- mdw7413

his chemistry with Panarin was rather ungodly

I 100% do not think they should be looking to part with AdA. Just because Fox is shaping up to be a similar player, why not have two guys that are lethal? Especially while Fox is on his entry level contract.

But, if they did plan to deal him. The return would need to be high. My starting point would be a bottom 6 NHL player, a first, and a forward prospect. I think they absolutely could get that on the open market for AdA.
- Bean_Dip

Tony D certainly has good trade value. However at this moment, he is an upcoming RFA with arbitration rights. No club is going to trade you top value when he doesn't have a contract. The upcoming flat cap could represent a problem to a team trying to re-sign him for the future. Strome is in the same situation...

his chemistry with Panarin was rather ungodly
- jimbro83

That cross ice pass they burned so many teams on is a thing of beauty

Tony D certainly has good trade value. However at this moment, he is an upcoming RFA with arbitration rights. No club is going to trade you top value when he doesn't have a contract. The upcoming flat cap could represent a problem to a team trying to re-sign him for the future. Strome is in the same situation...
- TommyGTrain

yeah unless what we got in return was a different RFA

the argument not to give Tony D too much money long term really should be centered around the fact that we have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist on the way, so it's arguably overkill

so if we traded him for a different RFA at a position of need kind of in the same boat, that's a good avenue to go down to as well

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- jimbro83

Smartest decision they’ve made so far. Vegas was a bad idea to begin with.

yeah unless what we got in return was a different RFA

the argument not to give Tony D too much money long term really should be centered around the fact that we have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist on the way, so it's arguably overkill

so if we traded him for a different RFA at a position of need kind of in the same boat, that's a good avenue to go down to as well
- jimbro83

Bingo

That's why giving him a fair contract sets us up for success in the future. See what we have of the lot, deal from an area of wealth.

Absolutely against trading TonyD unless we’re getting a stud back for him, not a package of lesser parts to add up to him. Plus I love his twitter

yeah unless what we got in return was a different RFA

the argument not to give Tony D too much money long term really should be centered around the fact that we have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist on the way, so it's arguably overkill

so if we traded him for a different RFA at a position of need kind of in the same boat, that's a good avenue to go down to as well
- jimbro83

You're not wrong, I just am wary of all RFA's that have arbitration rights in this current salary cap climate. A "bad" award from an arbitrator means we will lose a player for nothing...

Absolutely against trading TonyD unless we’re getting a stud back for him, not a package of lesser parts to add up to him. Plus I love his twitter
- nyrangers9479

yeah that'll help win a Stanley Cup

that's exactly what we need, Tony D does something stupid like accidentally retweeting with some red neck yelling white power! like Trump did on Sunday and then he gets suspended

Tony D needs to shut the hell up

Right handed d-man are hard to come by. The fact Tony appears to be a point machine adds to it. He stands up for his teammates too which is always a plus in my book.

Imagine we a had a 3rd/4th line winger with limited minutes who was in his 2nd full year and was in the top 5 in points in the league. Would you be willing to trade him? Because thats what we are talking about with Tony basically. And I would argue its harder to find a right handed d man like that than a winger.


He also is turning into one hell of a QB on the PP. How many years have we all been complaining we don't have a good QB for the PP?

I see no down side with Tony
- mdw7413

The downside with DeAngelo is he’s small and not a very good defenseman. Again, we have Fox, who I’ve already said is better all around, and Nils in the wings. DeAngelo has value right now, which makes him a good trade chip. He still has maturity issues. I’m not just looking to get rid of him. Just being logical. If they can bridge him for 4m per for 2 years? That’s different. I’d just hate to commit long term right now.

yeah unless what we got in return was a different RFA

the argument not to give Tony D too much money long term really should be centered around the fact that we have Trouba, Fox and Lundkvist on the way, so it's arguably overkill

so if we traded him for a different RFA at a position of need kind of in the same boat, that's a good avenue to go down to as well
- jimbro83

Would you trade him straight up for Sergachev?

Would you trade him straight up for Sergachev?
- junaka3

I don’t see Tampa all of a sudden changing their minds yet again about Tony D. First off using a first round pick on him. Then giving him away for a 2nd round pick. And then being willing to trade Sergachev for him? I don’t know yo.

You're not wrong, I just am wary of all RFA's that have arbitration rights in this current salary cap climate. A "bad" award from an arbitrator means we will lose a player for nothing...
- TommyGTrain

Let’s not forget DeAngelo held out last year when he had no rights.

Yeah, let's pass on locking down Tony D. The Rangers want to repeat the same mistake they made with Zubov I guess.

Let’s not forget DeAngelo held out last year when he had no rights.
- junaka3

Wouldnt you? I know I would. Get every dime you can, while you can. Didnt work for him but its worth a try.

Yeah, let's pass on locking down Tony D. The Rangers want to repeat the same mistake they made with Zubov I guess.
- JRR1285

That still make me sick.

I don’t see Tampa all of a sudden changing their minds yet again about Tony D. First off using a first round pick on him. Then giving him away for a 2nd round pick. And then being willing to trade Sergachev for him? I don’t know yo.
- jimbro83

different GM now, but I don’t see them letting him go. If they do it’s hard to see them trading for another guy wanting a big contract, although right d more a need for them. They’re screwed though with the cap not going up. They only have 15 players under contract next year and 5 mil in cap space to sign Sergachev, Cirelli and others. They only have 3 defensemen under contract.

Would you trade him straight up for Sergachev?
- junaka3

I am sure I will get flack here for saying this --- but yes. I would trade Tony and our lesser 1st round pick this year for Sergachev. Sergachev is younger, plays the left side, and I believe will be the perfect partner for Trouba...
I don't see why Tampa would want Tony though, they can't afford him.

Right handed d-man are hard to come by. The fact Tony appears to be a point machine adds to it. He stands up for his teammates too which is always a plus in my book.

Imagine we a had a 3rd/4th line winger with limited minutes who was in his 2nd full year and was in the top 5 in points in the league. Would you be willing to trade him? Because thats what we are talking about with Tony basically. And I would argue its harder to find a right handed d man like that than a winger.


He also is turning into one hell of a QB on the PP. How many years have we all been complaining we don't have a good QB for the PP?

I see no down side with Tony
- mdw7413

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents

Yeah, let's pass on locking down Tony D. The Rangers want to repeat the same mistake they made with Zubov I guess.
- JRR1285

I actually think this would be worse, and the Zubov thing still pisses me off to this day

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents
- junaka3

There is literally nothing you can say that will change my mind on this one. We will agree to disagree.

The only way I would be ok is if there was a massive overpayment for him by another team which I would put at 0% chance of happening.

Trade Strome....