In interviews after the draft, Dorion said the tiers in this draft are as follows:
#1
#2 & #3
#4 to #12
#13 to #20
This is quite similar to what I have read in many prospect rankings.

LAK: 2nd
OTT: 5th, Isles pick, 33rd

OTT gets Stutzle and Byfield
LAK gets one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti, and further stocks up the system with talent
- Only_A_Ladd

Interesting proposal. I'd go for it. Ottawa has a deep group of prospects.

honestly, i'm happy with what we get if they don't do the trade, and i'm happy with what we get if they did do that trade.

no matter what happens, Ottawa is coming out of this draft with some great players, and i'm stoked.

in an ideal world, going with the picks we have, this is what I would want to see:

3 - Stutzle (LW)
5 - Raymond (RW)
isles pick (14-20ish) - Zary (C)
33 - Justin Barron (if he's still there) (RD)
49 - Ryan O'Rourke (LD)

beyond that, I dont' know enough about the prospects to really form an opinion
- sensarmy_11

I feel the same way.

I would be excited if they made that deal for the first or stayed pat.

Lafreniere will be really good. You don’t here of too many wingers that make their line-mates better, and the ones that do are stars/superstars in this league. He’s the whole package.


At the same time, you stay at 3 and 5...and can fill two key positions. 2 first line players, or 1 first liner and a potential top 2d. The pressure is now split on 2 players. We could also make the argument that the two players the sens select could make an even bigger impact then Laf would on his own.

Happy either way.

Just curious, but why do you feel Stutzle wont play center in the NHL? Most of the reports I've read state he has what it takes.
- david22

There’s a bit of debate on that because he played the wing in the del. However, he pretty much dominated at center in the juniors when he played with his age group.

What you may see is Stutzle being a hybrid when he plays in the nhl (bit of wing and center), sort of the way Willy Nylander is with the leafs. Then eventually when he grows into his body and gets stronger, he stays at C

How the 2020 Draft will go:

1. Team X - Alexis Lafrienere (hopefully a team from the west)
2. LAK - Tim Stutzle
3. OTT - Quinton Byfield
4. DET - Lucas Raymond
5. OTT - Jamie Drysdale or Marco Rossi or Cole Perfetti

(2) LAK - 2014 1st round 29th overall - C Adrian Kempe is drafted. Gabriel Vilardi (11th overall in 2017), Rasmus Kupari (20th overall in 2018), Akil Thomas (51st in 2018), Alex Turcotte (5th overall in 2019). If there's 1 position the Kings don't need to darft again, it's center. That leaves it unlikely they select Byfield

(3) OTT - it's a no brainier. It's Stutzle or Byfield - whoever is there

(4) DET - Detriot has selected many Sweedish players under Steve Yzerman. 2 of those picks from last year including Elmer Soderblom. I have a feeling that Yzerman may choose Rossi or someone off the board (bold!) but I would be all over Raymond if he's there at 5. Julius Bergman, another player in the Karlsson trade for Ottawa, also played with Raymond this year in Frolunda
- AlfieisKing

I would disagree with regard to the number 2 pick. Knowing the Kings prospect pool inside and out the only Center I would consider having first line pedigree would Gabe Vilardi. Turcotte maybe but guessing he would be a second line C or moved to wing. The Kings love having size / skill up the middle they will not be able to pass on Byfield for this reason.

LAK: 2nd
OTT: 5th, Isles pick, 33rd

OTT gets Stutzle and Byfield
LAK gets one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti, and further stocks up the system with talent
- Only_A_Ladd

The Kings need elite talent. They have a ton of guys who project to 2nd and 3rd line guys. I wouldn't trade down unless Ott wants to swap #2 for#3 plus a kicker. They may want to do this to get the rights to pick their guy. Otherwise you pick the best available at 2. If I was Rob Blake I take the big center all day long. To win cups you have to have that dominant center, true number one D man and a lights out goalie (aka the 2012 Kings with Kopitar, Doughty and Quick).

Ottawa drafts Tim Stutzle & Quinton Byfield...?

To Los Angeles Kings
5th pick overall [Marco Rossi]
F Logan Brown
2020 2nd
2022 conditional 2nd

To Ottawa Senators
2nd pick overall [Tim Stutzle]
G Jonathan Quick

Would you do this trade?

I would disagree with regard to the number 2 pick. Knowing the Kings prospect pool inside and out the only Center I would consider having first line pedigree would Gabe Vilardi. Turcotte maybe but guessing he would be a second line C or moved to wing. The Kings love having size / skill up the middle they will not be able to pass on Byfield for this reason.
- KingsFan67

I want Stutzle so I hope you're right !

The Kings need elite talent. They have a ton of guys who project to 2nd and 3rd line guys. I wouldn't trade down unless Ott wants to swap #2 for#3 plus a kicker. They may want to do this to get the rights to pick their guy. Otherwise you pick the best available at 2. If I was Rob Blake I take the big center all day long. To win cups you have to have that dominant center, true number one D man and a lights out goalie (aka the 2012 Kings with Kopitar, Doughty and Quick).
- KingsFan67

I agree with some of what you said.

I would NOT trade the 5th pick, NYI 1st, and the 33rd pick. That said, I'm assuming the NYI don't go far and Dorian can trade up or stay within the 12-17th pick range (Sens have done very well there with Karlsson, Chabot, Norris

In interviews after the draft, Dorion said the tiers in this draft are as follows:
#1
#2 & #3
#4 to #12
#13 to #20
This is quite similar to what I have read in many prospect rankings.
- SensFan25

Lafrienre
Byfield, Stutzle
2 Sweeds, Rossi, Drysdale, Sanderson, Perfetti, Askarov, Quinn, Lundell
Mercer, Lapierre, Guhle, Jarvis, Holloway, Schneider, Amirov, Reichel, Perreault, Zary

You can put Jason-John Peterka too in that. Justin Barron, William Wallinder, and possibly Tyson Forester are players I would be happy to take in the late teens, early 20s

Just curious, but why do you feel Stutzle wont play center in the NHL? Most of the reports I've read state he has what it takes.
- david22

what I've read is that he played C for germany in Jrs because there weren't any better options, but he's a natural LW, and it's what he played for his club team.

LAK: 2nd
OTT: 5th, Isles pick, 33rd

OTT gets Stutzle and Byfield
LAK gets one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti, and further stocks up the system with talent
- Only_A_Ladd

that's a TERRIBLE deal for Ottawa

EDm will not win a cup with MCDavid unless tha cap hits 95-100M, the reason PIT won 3 cups with Malkin and Crosby is because they took allot less than what they where worth to have money left over to fill the roster with NHL players, many good ones too, EDM problem is that have no 3rd and 4th line, their D is a mess and the G is is questionable. TOR is in the same boat as EDM, no D outside of Reilly that is realy good, and the G is questionable, that is why OTT MUST NOT DRAFT DRYSDALE, they need very to elite Forwards more than they need RD. The Blues have no crosby or MCDavid and they won the cup and are major contenders again, they have a balanced team will realy good player in all 4 lines and 3 D lines with a good G.
- Athrin

A+

Multiple factors in play. Take the depth. You need the #1 centre. Byfield, Rossi and Perfetti (perhaps Stutzle at centre). Sens need to come out of the draft with 2 of those 4 players. This is very good!

maybe, my opinion is still that Ottawa needs "that guy" to put them over the top.....both on the ice, and to get people excited about this team again. i know that die hard fans are excited at the prospect of 3 & 5, but EVERYONE would be excited at having lafreniere.

also, i'm not convinced that the difference between a center you'd get at 5 (cuz we'd likely get a winger at 3), so Rossi or Perfetti is THAT MUCH better than a center you'd get in the mid teens (bourque, zary, Lapierre). i think the gap between lafreniere and rossi/perfetti is bigger than the gap between rossi/perfetti and the centers we could get with the isles pick
- sensarmy_11

Some of us might believe that Rossi will outplay Lafreniere if they are lined up on opposite sides of the ice with equally talented line mates.

LAK: 2nd
OTT: 5th, Isles pick, 33rd

OTT gets Stutzle and Byfield
LAK gets one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti, and further stocks up the system with talent
- Only_A_Ladd

That would be one hell of a trade.

Some of us might believe that Rossi will outplay Lafreniere if they are lined up on opposite sides of the ice with equally talented line mates.
- spatso

then some of you are crazy

then some of you are crazy
- sensarmy_11

if you do a head to head statistical comparison of Rossi and Lafreniere, you might be surprised how strong a season Rossi put in.

if you do a head to head statistical comparison of Rossi and Lafreniere, you might be surprised how strong a season Rossi put in.
- spatso

just stop man, Rossi is going to be a very good player, but he's not in the same class as Lafreniere…..seriously, just stop

if you do a head to head statistical comparison, guys like debrincat, strome, marner, conor garland (who??) all had close to or better numbers than McDavid in their draft year...….tell me, which player would you rather have?

just stop man, Rossi is going to be a very good player, but he's not in the same class as Lafreniere…..seriously, just stop

if you do a head to head statistical comparison, guys like debrincat, strome, marner, conor garland (who??) all had close to or better numbers than McDavid in their draft year...….tell me, which player would you rather have?
- sensarmy_11

Some people have suggested that the Sens think about move up by trading 3 and 5 for the 1st overall selection. I do not have any doubt that Lafreniere is the best player in the draft. But he is not worth a 3 and a 5. There are some very good players in the top 15 and it would be insane not to have a strategy that takes this into account.

player pts/gm +/-

Lafreniere 2.15 41
Rossi 2.14 69
Perfetti 1.82 49
Byfield 1.82 26
Jarvis 1.69 53

The Jarvis numbers are really curios. He had a horrible first few months to the season. But, he came on really strong. He moved from being in the 30th pick or the second round draft range. He is now around 15th on many lists. Had the season continued he would have climbed even higher.

The Kings need elite talent. They have a ton of guys who project to 2nd and 3rd line guys. I wouldn't trade down unless Ott wants to swap #2 for#3 plus a kicker. They may want to do this to get the rights to pick their guy. Otherwise you pick the best available at 2. If I was Rob Blake I take the big center all day long. To win cups you have to have that dominant center, true number one D man and a lights out goalie (aka the 2012 Kings with Kopitar, Doughty and Quick).
- KingsFan67

Agree. That's the inhibitor. The Kings don't have anyone like TS or QB.

Ottawa drafts Tim Stutzle & Quinton Byfield...?

To Los Angeles Kings
5th pick overall
- AlfieisKing[Marco Rossi]
F Logan Brown
2020 2nd
2022 conditional 2nd

To Ottawa Senators
2nd pick overall [Tim Stutzle]
G Jonathan Quick

Would you do this trade?

You just don't like Logan Brown.

Kings wouldn't do this for various reasons, specifically it isn't enough to give-up on either TS or QB at number 2. If they did a deal, I would think Blake would need to get back more draft capital in this draft in both the 1st round and 2nd round.

that's a TERRIBLE deal for Ottawa
- sensarmy_11

You're high on Rossi. I get it. So am I.

A+

Multiple factors in play. Take the depth. You need the #1 centre. Byfield, Rossi and Perfetti (perhaps Stutzle at centre). Sens need to come out of the draft with 2 of those 4 players. This is very good!
- spatso

Itall depends on if stuz can play center (or they get byfield).

If not, then I would agree they need to take one of Perfetti or Rossi. Otherwise Raymond may be a good choice.

Where will Stuzle play next season? If not the NHL will he stay in Europe?

Ottawa drafts Tim Stutzle & Quinton Byfield...?

To Los Angeles Kings
5th pick overall
- AlfieisKing[Marco Rossi]
F Logan Brown
2020 2nd
2022 conditional 2nd

To Ottawa Senators
2nd pick overall [Tim Stutzle]
G Jonathan Quick

Would you do this trade?

I'd make the trade. I don't think Quick would wave ntc to come to Ottawa. And kings would have to take Nilsson back.

From Sens perspective it makes sense. They would then leave Quick avail in the Seattle expansion draft.

I still think 5th pick. Isles pick, 3rd Rd and Gustafson gets it done. I'd also be okay with 5, Isles pic and 33rd.

You're high on Rossi. I get it. So am I.
- Only_A_Ladd

it's not that i'm high on any particular one player.....it's just that I think the difference in quality between what you'd get at 2 and what you'd get at 5 isn't enough to justify giving up a mid rd 1st and the 2nd pick in the 2nd rd to move up those 3 spots