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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 7:33 AM ET
After sleeping on it, I realized what happened last night it still absolutely hilarious

Lol sens

- poopstash


I fail to understand why you keep laughing at a team who has 2 picks in the top 5...……..... Ottawa will emerge from this draft with BY FAR the best prospect pool in the NHL. but sure, laugh away.....
Markiz
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:21 AM ET
I'm just glad Ottawa doesn't get lafreniere. Also happy that lafreniere doesnt have to go to ottawa.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:25 AM ET
My money is on the Arizona Coyotes. They do have Taylor Hall whose teams have won the #1 overall pick in 5 of the last 9 NHL lottery draws. Why not make it 6 out of 10?

From an Ottawa perspective, having the #1 overall go to a relatively weak western conference team would also be the best outcome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...t_overall_NHL_draft_picks

- SensFan25


I find it ironic that if one of Arizona, Montreal, Chicago, or Minnesota win it, that’s a more reasonable outcome than the team with the 12th best odds (which would have been Winnipeg had the season been canceled before the lottery) getting it. This play in round isn’t a legit shot at the cup by any means and the way a placeholder team winning it infuriates me the most is if one of the teams that were a lock to make the playoffs gets upset and wins it, otherwise it’s not exactly ridiculous to have one of the loser teams get it since it was the 12th odds that won it which is where one of those teams would have been. The real issue here is that a spot designated for a bubble team gets it which has been a problem since they put this format in place in 2016
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
It'll be very interesting to see who LA takes 2nd overall.

There is no consensus on whether it's Stutzle or Byfield
GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.07.2016

Jun 27 @ 10:51 AM ET
If Byfield somehow falls to send at 3, they should package Logan Brown with something to EDM for Jesse P. Otherwise Brown becomes another 4th line center on the Sens.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
It'll be very interesting to see who LA takes 2nd overall.

There is no consensus on whether it's Stutzle or Byfield

- david22


honestly, I kind of like the fact that we're at 3 and not 2, kind of takes the pressure of making the decision off of Ottawa.....they just take whoever LA doesn't
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
If Byfield somehow falls to send at 3, they should package Logan Brown with something to EDM for Jesse P. Otherwise Brown becomes another 4th line center on the Sens.
- GrimmdaGoalie


I wouldn't trade Brown for JP.....brown has way more potential IMO.

if they do anything with brown, package him with the isles pick to move up further in the draft, or get a better young player than JP
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
If Byfield somehow falls to send at 3, they should package Logan Brown with something to EDM for Jesse P. Otherwise Brown becomes another 4th line center on the Sens.
- GrimmdaGoalie



Why would Brown necessarily drop to their 4th line center? I'm nervous about Brown's development too, but I still think its too early to write him off.

Byfield
Brown

could be a fantastic 1 2 punch. They could play Norris on the wing.

If Norris is the plan for a the 2nd line center, then it would be a different conversation.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
Why would Brown necessarily drop to their 4th line center? I'm nervous about Brown's development too, but I still think its too early to write him off.

Byfield
Brown

could be a fantastic 1 2 punch. They could play Norris on the wing.

If Norris is the plan for a the 2nd line center, then it would be a different conversation.

- david22


move Norris to the wing and put brown on a line with him and Tkachuk.....that would be a solid line.

brown is the playmaker
Norris is the sniper
Tkachuk is the net crasher

assuming we draft stutzle/byfield and Raymond, a potential forward group;

Batherson - stutzle/byfield - Raymond
Norris - brown - tkachuck
brown - white - Duclair
formenton - Tierney - ryan

still have abromov, chlapik, balcers

that's a solid group
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
3 and 5 are fine.

We all new this NHL's amended lottery could become a laughing stock and it is maddening to see it happen. NHL didn't want to part with their lottery formula or overly reward the poor seasons by the weak teams (which is fair) but the solution was to give bubble teams essentially a 25% shot of winning the lottery (better odds than the actual lottery teams) and reward a team that loses in the playoffs, going against their own anti-tanking stance.

Bubble teams get to play, develop their teams and can influence results to get a good chance at the top pick. Bottom teams don't get to play to develop their teams or play to influence their results to have better later odds.

The NHL again fails. This format would have worked much better after the play-in round, if it even happens.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:43 AM ET
3 and 5 are fine.

We all new this NHL's amended lottery could become a laughing stock and it is maddening to see it happen. NHL didn't want to part with their lottery formula or overly reward the poor seasons by the weak teams (which is fair) but the solution was to give bubble teams essentially a 25% shot of winning the lottery (better odds than the actual lottery teams) and reward a team that loses in the playoffs, going against their own anti-tanking stance.

Bubble teams get to play, develop their teams and can influence results to get a good chance at the top pick. Bottom teams don't get to play to develop their teams or play to influence their results to have better later odds.

The NHL again fails. This format would have worked much better after the play-in round, if it even happens.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


that's the key right there, they should have waited.....but they saw the ratings the NFL draft got and wanted the same....I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately put a play-in team at 1 (or atleast to get one of them in the top 3), just so they could get the chance to have another televised lottery to get further ratings.

I love hockey, but it is definitely a very poorly run league.....they care much more about money than the integrity of the game and the league
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:46 AM ET
that's the key right there, they should have waited.....but they saw the ratings the NFL draft got and wanted the same....I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately put a play-in team at 1 (or atleast to get one of them in the top 3), just so they could get the chance to have another televised lottery to get further ratings.

I love hockey, but it is definitely a very poorly run league.....they care much more about money than the integrity of the game and the league

- sensarmy_11


The NHL is the Ottawa Senators of North American major sports leagues.

And it shows in how they run and operate.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:57 AM ET
The NHL is the Ottawa Senators of North American major sports leagues.

And it shows in how they run and operate.

- david22



Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Jun 27 @ 12:01 PM ET
I’m not bothered over the fact we have two picks in the top 5.

Obviously it sucks that our own pick got bumped 3 spots (We learned that the sj pick has sj luck...thank God).

Every time I feel disappointed and think about it..I think of Detroit, and how much it would suck to drop that much.

At least now it’s done, and we could finally narrow down our selections.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:02 PM ET
Tankathon projections for the lottery shows just how strong this lottery might be for the Sens in the 1st round alone. They have the Sens taking Stutzle and Perfetti at 3 and 5. Really interesting is to see the quality of players available around 20th

20 EDM
Hendrix Lapierre
C | Chicoutimi
6'0"
165 lbs
18.4 yrs
Canada

21 OTT
Jacob Perreault
C | Sarnia
5'11"
198 lbs
18.2 yrs
Canada

22 DAL
Mavrik Bourque
C | Shawinigan
5'10"
165 lbs
18.5 yrs
Canada

23 NYR
Jan Mysak
LW | Hamilton
6'0"
176 lbs
18.0 yrs
Czech Rep.

24 MIN
Yaroslav Askarov
G | SKA-1946
6'3"
163 lbs
18.0 yrs
Russia
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
The NHL is the Ottawa Senators of North American major sports leagues.

And it shows in how they run and operate.

- david22

MLB: Look foolish after months of silly negotiations about to play/money/and length of a season in a Covid era.

NHL: Hold my beer...
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:16 PM ET
Getting Byfield or Stuztle is an ok consolation prize for losing the lottery. At this point, I think Stuztle is the guy I want just given the concerns with Byfield just being good because he is the size of a man in a boys league, but scouts don't seem that worried about that aspect.

The 5 pick, I think is too hard to tell right now. I'd like the Sens to load up on potential 1st line forwards, but if Drysdale is available, I really don't see them passing. I'd rather have one of Raymond or Rossi. Perfetti is in there too, but I'm less excited about him for whatever reason.

Crazy that the draft won't be for months still.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
Getting Byfield or Stuztle is an ok consolation prize for losing the lottery. At this point, I think Stuztle is the guy I want just given the concerns with Byfield just being good because he is the size of a man in a boys league, but scouts don't seem that worried about that aspect.

The 5 pick, I think is too hard to tell right now. I'd like the Sens to load up on potential 1st line forwards, but if Drysdale is available, I really don't see them passing. I'd rather have one of Raymond or Rossi. Perfetti is in there too, but I'm less excited about him for whatever reason.

Crazy that the draft won't be for months still.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


I saw something a few weeks back that the teams missing all the post season might be able to do a rookie or young guns tournament to help get some of the rust off of what might be as much as an 8 month shut down for them.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
MLB: Look foolish after months of silly negotiations about to play/money/and length of a season in a Covid era.

NHL: Hold my beer...

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Mpepe1084
Ottawa Senators
Location: CT
Joined: 01.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
Getting Byfield or Stuztle is an ok consolation prize for losing the lottery. At this point, I think Stuztle is the guy I want just given the concerns with Byfield just being good because he is the size of a man in a boys league, but scouts don't seem that worried about that aspect.

The 5 pick, I think is too hard to tell right now. I'd like the Sens to load up on potential 1st line forwards, but if Drysdale is available, I really don't see them passing. I'd rather have one of Raymond or Rossi. Perfetti is in there too, but I'm less excited about him for whatever reason.

Crazy that the draft won't be for months still.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0


Selecting a high end forward makes sense with the #5 pick, especially in a draft like this. Selecting Drysdale with that pick (if he is still available) will likely depend on how strongly the Senators feel about Thomson and Bernard-Docker.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Getting Byfield or Stuztle is an ok consolation prize for losing the lottery. At this point, I think Stuztle is the guy I want just given the concerns with Byfield just being good because he is the size of a man in a boys league, but scouts don't seem that worried about that aspect.

The 5 pick, I think is too hard to tell right now. I'd like the Sens to load up on potential 1st line forwards, but if Drysdale is available, I really don't see them passing. I'd rather have one of Raymond or Rossi. Perfetti is in there too, but I'm less excited about him for whatever reason.

Crazy that the draft won't be for months still.

- Gord_Wilson_2.0



I had literally the same thoght, down to taking into account what the scouts thought.

Probably why I'm not a scout.

On the next pick, maybe it depends where the Isles wind up. If they can get quinn or similar with it, a dman could be good at 5.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
Selecting a high end forward makes sense with the #5 pick, especially in a draft like this. Selecting Drysdale with that pick (if he is still available) will likely depend on how strongly the Senators feel about Thomson and Bernard-Docker.
- Mpepe1084


Will be interesting for both you guys and Detroit. You both have really good RD prospects but are you confident enough to pass on an RD that projects to be elite?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
While I think they have very different ceilings, I wouldn't mind seeing what Brady and Byfiled could do together on a line.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
I had literally the same thoght, down to taking into account what the scouts thought.

Probably why I'm not a scout.

On the next pick, maybe it depends where the Isles wind up. If they can get quinn or similar with it, a dman could be good at 5.

- david22


On here for months I kept think people forgot about byfield’s size. Everyone kept talking about how he is younger than any of the top projected choices but seem to forget that a majority of the ohl is under 6 ft and average 160 lbs.

ekblad got exceptional status and dominated due to his size and not saying he hasn’t been good (also concussions have taken their toll) but he was hyped to be a lot better
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 1:41 PM ET
Brian Burke's text message to Ron MacLean:
"This is a disgrace."

the NHL is the clown of all sports league on earth, Cap will go down in 2021-2022 because many people will stop watching this clown league.

- Athrin


Everyone said the fans wouldn't come back after 04/05. They did, in record numbers.

Everyone said the fans wouldn't come back in 12/13. They did, in record numbers.

The fans will come back because it's the only show in town.
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