Just read an article and said Melnyk told to Dorion to make everything to trade for Lafrenière. Yessir!!!
- Crosside

Anyone else think a 3 and 5 and player for 1st would be great?

Or maybe 5 and 15 and 3rd Rd pick and player (Gustafson? One of the Baby Sens guys) for 2nd pick overall?

Doable?

So, who do people think LA is more likely to take at 2?

Just read an article and said Melnyk told to Dorion to make everything to trade for Lafrenière. Yessir!!!
- Crosside

That would be crazy. Who would trade Byfield and Drysdale for Lafreniere. Or Stutzle and Perfetti or Byfield and Rossi. If the Sens traded 3 and 5 for Lafreniere they would ridiculed forever by all hockey folks.

Who is your first choice at 3 ?
- Stützle
- Byfield

At 5:
- Drysdale
- Rossi
- Perfetti
- Raymond

Mine is Byfield / Drysdale

So, who do people think LA is more likely to take at 2?
- david22

I think they'll take Stutzle….they're already so deep at center

Anyone else think a 3 and 5 and player for 1st would be great?

Or maybe 5 and 15 and 3rd Rd pick and player (Gustafson? One of the Baby Sens guys) for 2nd pick overall?

Doable?
- GrimmdaGoalie

I would do 3 & 5 for 1....and then get a center with the isles pick, someone like Zary or Lapierre

That would be crazy. Who would trade Byfield and Drysdale for Lafreniere. Or Stutzle and Perfetti or Byfield and Rossi. If the Sens traded 3 and 5 for Lafreniere they would ridiculed forever by all hockey folks.
- spatso

Why Lafrenière bring just not on the ice. Would be great for Outaouais market,and for just piss Habs fan. I do it

That would be crazy. Who would trade Byfield and Drysdale for Lafreniere. Or Stutzle and Perfetti or Byfield and Rossi. If the Sens traded 3 and 5 for Lafreniere they would ridiculed forever by all hockey folks.
- spatso

I would......sens need a superstar.

they need a Matthews or a Mackinnon, not a Hischier

Lafreniere has "elite player" written all over him....the other players are excellent players, but a tier below lafreniere.

I would......sens need a superstar.

they need a Matthews or a Mackinnon, not a Hischier

Lafreniere has "elite player" written all over him....the other players are excellent players, but a tier below lafreniere.
- sensarmy_11

Byfield is nearly a full year younger than Lafreniere. He has the potential to be a dominant #1 centre. Rossi will be an elite NHL player. Stutzle and Perfetti are also sure fire hits. This is an exceptional draft.

Sens also have #21 plus 4 more is the second round. Take the depth, Lafreniere will be a very good NHL player. But the depth is what long term success requires.

I would......sens need a superstar.

they need a Matthews or a Mackinnon, not a Hischier

Lafreniere has "elite player" written all over him....the other players are excellent players, but a tier below lafreniere.
- sensarmy_11

Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle are considered the elite prospects in this years draft, 4-8 are interchangeable but franchise type players. This is the deepest draft in years why would Ottawa give up an elite player and a franchise player for Lafreniere? I agree with the person who said Dorian would be a laughing stock in the NHL if he made this trade.

Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle are considered the elite prospects in this years draft, 4-8 are interchangeable but franchise type players. This is the deepest draft in years why would Ottawa give up an elite player and a franchise player for Lafreniere? I agree with the person who said Dorian would be a laughing stock in the NHL if he made this trade.
- Barrykerr1

Lafreniere is in a class all by himself in this class. the other players probably need a year or two more of development to be NHL players, Lafreniere is probably an NHL impact player next year, and a superstar within a couple

Lafreniere is in a class all by himself in this class. the other players probably need a year or two more of development to be NHL players, Lafreniere is probably an NHL impact player next year, and a superstar within a couple
- sensarmy_11

Is he come with a better guarantee than Daigle?

Is he come with a better guarantee than Daigle?
- spatso

Daigle was good, it’s just he don’t want to play hockey. Lafrenière not the same character

Is he come with a better guarantee than Daigle?
- spatso

people need to get over the Daigle poop...…...you can't compare players then to now, you can't compare scouting then to scouting now. And if you're worried that Lafreniere is gonna be a flop, you should be REALLY worried that everyone behind him is going to be a flop too.

Ottawa needs "that guy", that superstar who can put a team on his back and take over a game. they had that with Karlsson, I don't think anyone in their current prospect pool or current roster has the potential to be that. not saying there aren't really good players......but they don't have that potential McDavid, Matthews, Crosby, mackinnon, etc

Lafreniere is the only player in this draft with the potential to be one of "those guys", everyone else just seems like they'll be really good players. Ottawa already has a bunch of really good players....they need a superstar.

if Ottawa wasn't loaded with picks, including another likely mid-1st rd pick, then maybe I have a different opinion.....but they can afford to give up 2 really good players, to get a superstar

people need to get over the Daigle poop...…...you can't compare players then to now, you can't compare scouting then to scouting now. And if you're worried that Lafreniere is gonna be a flop, you should be REALLY worried that everyone behind him is going to be a flop too.

Ottawa needs "that guy", that superstar who can put a team on his back and take over a game. they had that with Karlsson, I don't think anyone in their current prospect pool or current roster has the potential to be that. not saying there aren't really good players......but they don't have that potential McDavid, Matthews, Crosby, mackinnon, etc

Lafreniere is the only player in this draft with the potential to be one of "those guys", everyone else just seems like they'll be really good players. Ottawa already has a bunch of really good players....they need a superstar.

if Ottawa wasn't loaded with picks, including another likely mid-1st rd pick, then maybe I have a different opinion.....but they can afford to give up 2 really good players, to get a superstar
- sensarmy_11

They also need a number 1 center. They have potentially two opportunities to address that with 3 and 5. No one they get at 12 is likely to fill that need.

So you swap one weakness for another.

Teams have won without a Crosby ir a mcdavid, I dont know of any team that's won without a number 1 center.

They also need a number 1 center. They have potentially two opportunities to address that with 3 and 5. No one they get at 12 is likely to fill that need.

So you swap one weakness for another.

Teams have won without a Crosby ir a mcdavid, I dont know of any team that's won without a number 1 center.
- david22

EDm will not win a cup with MCDavid unless tha cap hits 95-100M, the reason PIT won 3 cups with Malkin and Crosby is because they took allot less than what they where worth to have money left over to fill the roster with NHL players, many good ones too, EDM problem is that have no 3rd and 4th line, their D is a mess and the G is is questionable. TOR is in the same boat as EDM, no D outside of Reilly that is realy good, and the G is questionable, that is why OTT MUST NOT DRAFT DRYSDALE, they need very to elite Forwards more than they need RD. The Blues have no crosby or MCDavid and they won the cup and are major contenders again, they have a balanced team will realy good player in all 4 lines and 3 D lines with a good G.

They also need a number 1 center. They have potentially two opportunities to address that with 3 and 5. No one they get at 12 is likely to fill that need.

So you swap one weakness for another.

Teams have won without a Crosby ir a mcdavid, I dont know of any team that's won without a number 1 center.
- david22

maybe, my opinion is still that Ottawa needs "that guy" to put them over the top.....both on the ice, and to get people excited about this team again. i know that die hard fans are excited at the prospect of 3 & 5, but EVERYONE would be excited at having lafreniere.

also, i'm not convinced that the difference between a center you'd get at 5 (cuz we'd likely get a winger at 3), so Rossi or Perfetti is THAT MUCH better than a center you'd get in the mid teens (bourque, zary, Lapierre). i think the gap between lafreniere and rossi/perfetti is bigger than the gap between rossi/perfetti and the centers we could get with the isles pick

maybe, my opinion is still that Ottawa needs "that guy" to put them over the top.....both on the ice, and to get people excited about this team again. i know that die hard fans are excited at the prospect of 3 & 5, but EVERYONE would be excited at having lafreniere.

also, i'm not convinced that the difference between a center you'd get at 5 (cuz we'd likely get a winger at 3), so Rossi or Perfetti is THAT MUCH better than a center you'd get in the mid teens (bourque, zary, Lapierre). i think the gap between lafreniere and rossi/perfetti is bigger than the gap between rossi/perfetti and the centers we could get with the isles pick
- sensarmy_11

Ottawa will get a Center at three. Byfield or Stuzle ( who can play center)

5 remains to be seen.

If things work out they can draft two pieces of their future top line this draft. The sens have depth in the prospect pool, now they need top end talent. Starting with a center.

Ottawa will get a Center at three. Byfield or Stuzle ( who can play center)

5 remains to be seen.

If things work out they can draft two pieces of their future top line this draft. The sens have depth in the prospect pool, now they need top end talent. Starting with a center.
- david22

i agree with what you think they'll do....i should have prefaced my previous posts by saying i don't think they will trade 3/5 for 1....but i wouldn't be upset if they did

also, i think stutzle will be a LW at the NHL level.

I would......sens need a superstar.

they need a Matthews or a Mackinnon, not a Hischier

Lafreniere has "elite player" written all over him....the other players are excellent players, but a tier below lafreniere.
- sensarmy_11

I am wondering if they are better off with a bunch of "good" players, hope for some good team chemistry, work ethic and coaching.

The problem I see with a "superstar" or "Franchise" player is with your ownership. I worry they won't cough up the cash for that player and/or for a supporting cast. I liken the situation to the Raptors. They have always operated at a disadvantage. They built an excellent team, but only got a true superstar for one season, just enough to push them over the top...

i agree with what you think they'll do....i should have prefaced my previous posts by saying i don't think they will trade 3/5 for 1....but i wouldn't be upset if they did

also, i think stutzle will be a LW at the NHL level.
- sensarmy_11

Yeah, would not do that trade this year. You guys are going to get 2 real good players.

Yeah, would not do that trade this year. You guys are going to get 2 real good players.
- Aetherial

honestly, i'm happy with what we get if they don't do the trade, and i'm happy with what we get if they did do that trade.

no matter what happens, Ottawa is coming out of this draft with some great players, and i'm stoked.

in an ideal world, going with the picks we have, this is what I would want to see:

3 - Stutzle (LW)
5 - Raymond (RW)
isles pick (14-20ish) - Zary (C)
33 - Justin Barron (if he's still there) (RD)
49 - Ryan O'Rourke (LD)

beyond that, I dont' know enough about the prospects to really form an opinion

honestly, i'm happy with what we get if they don't do the trade, and i'm happy with what we get if they did do that trade.

no matter what happens, Ottawa is coming out of this draft with some great players, and i'm stoked.

in an ideal world, going with the picks we have, this is what I would want to see:

3 - Stutzle (LW)
5 - Raymond (RW)
isles pick (14-20ish) - Zary (C)
33 - Justin Barron (if he's still there) (RD)
49 - Ryan O'Rourke (LD)

beyond that, I dont' know enough about the prospects to really form an opinion
- sensarmy_11

Just curious, but why do you feel Stutzle wont play center in the NHL? Most of the reports I've read state he has what it takes.

Yeah, would not do that trade this year. You guys are going to get 2 real good players.
- Aetherial

There is no question that Lafreniere is the best player available, however he has never been mentioned as being a Crosby or a McDavid who were true superstars. As scouts have mentioned he is slightly ahead of Byfield and Stutzle. The others are at a lower level but still excellent players. The Senators have many holes to fill, why trade away 2 top 5 picks for 1. There is a good chance Byfield who is much younger than Lafreniere will turn out to be the better player. The same goes for Stutzle. Keep picks 3 + 5, trade the Islanders pick and a few second or third round picks to move up if someone they want badly is available.

Anyone else think a 3 and 5 and player for 1st would be great?

Or maybe 5 and 15 and 3rd Rd pick and player (Gustafson? One of the Baby Sens guys) for 2nd pick overall?

Doable?
- GrimmdaGoalie

LAK: 2nd
OTT: 5th, Isles pick, 33rd

OTT gets Stutzle and Byfield
LAK gets one of Drysdale, Raymond, Rossi, or Perfetti, and further stocks up the system with talent