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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:29 PM ET
lol. yes thats a scenario. or the 7th overall turns out to be a bust
- wingz4life

recent 7th overall picks

2010--F, Skinner (6th forward taken)
2011--C, Scheifele (5th center)
2012--D, Dumba (5th d-man)
2013--D, Nurse (2nd d-man/Jones, 4th-overall)
2014--D, Fleury (2nd d-man/Ekblad 1st-overall)
2015--D, Provorov (2nd d-man/Hannifin 5th-overall)
2016--C, Keller (3rd center/Matthews 1st, PLD 3rd-overall)
2017--C, Anderssen (5th center)
2018--D, Quinn Hughes (2nd d-man/Dahlin 1st)
2019--C, Cozens (4th center)
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
recent 7th overall picks

2010--F, Skinner (6th forward taken)
2011--C, Scheifele (5th center)
2012--D, Dumba (5th d-man)
2013--D, Nurse (2nd d-man/Jones, 4th-overall)
2014--D, Fleury (2nd d-man/Ekblad 1st-overall)
2015--D, Provorov (2nd d-man/Hannifin 5th-overall)
2016--C, Keller (3rd center/Matthews 1st, PLD 3rd-overall)
2017--C, Anderssen (5th center)
2018--D, Quinn Hughes (2nd d-man/Dahlin 1st)
2019--C, Cozens (4th center)

- Michael Pachla

so trade the pick if they get 7th..
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 7:37 PM ET
They had a solid 2015-16 and looked like they were on the upswing. 2016-17 was marred by a poor start due to injuries to Jack and Kane with a collapse of the locker room and a tuning out of Bylsma later that season
- Michael Pachla


Kane was going to be an UFA and from what I remember he had no intention of resigning here so they had to trade him. Whether the time of the trade or return is debatable not whether they could have kept him so the comment about how that turned out is mute unless it was meant to mean they should have got more.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
How are point totals arbitrary when we drastically need more scoring?

Points literally equal scoring

I’m not saying he’s sh!tty
Just that we need a better 2C than him

This is where u need to realize that the analytics are incomplete, and use common sense

Toronto is loaded at forward with scorers,
and he struggled to score there
And they didn’t even like him at 3C,
so we shouldn’t entertain putting him at 2C here

The only way u can justify that is if u really think he’s a 60point player who was just stuck behind Tavares & Matthews

I just don’t see that outta him
He could be a good 3C
But at 2C, i think we’re just asking for more disappointment

- jdfitz77


but your the guy saying they aren't available.
how do you propose to secure one?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:47 PM ET
so trade the pick if they get 7th..
- wingz4life

some good players there...

i'm good with trading 8 or lower dependent upon what happens 1-7 and what's coming back...7 still might be a real good player this year
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 7:52 PM ET
some good players there...

i'm good with trading 8 or lower dependent upon what happens 1-7 and what's coming back...7 still might be a real good player this year

- Michael Pachla

its tough. if you could trade 7 for say a Schiefle. would you do it? yes? but, would the other team do it..
THENINELINE
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.04.2007

Jun 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
so you are a tampy fan now? or cheer for both
- wingz4life

Cheer for both....TBL has some sense of how to run an organization. Been an Amerks fan since we moved to Rochester in 69. Went to many Amerks games in the 70's and 80's compliments of Fred Costello... family friend. Glad to get out of the state though.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:02 PM ET
first click:

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buf
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next nine: 9, 7, 3, 8, 7, 7, 8, 1, 8

- Michael Pachla


Whoop whoop
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:03 PM ET
Cheer for both....TBL has some sense of how to run an organization. Been an Amerks fan since we moved to Rochester in 69. Went to many Amerks games in the 70's and 80's compliments of Fred Costello... family friend. Glad to get out of the state though.
- THENINELINE

some decisions to make for them . need to resign sergachev and cirelli and only have 7.5 mill in cap space
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
some decisions to make for them . need to resign sergachev and cirelli and only have 7.5 mill in cap space
- wingz4life

If the cap stays flat they only have about 2.5 I believe
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:07 PM ET
Tyler Johnson, Anthony Cirelli, Erik Cernak for Pick 7, Colin Miller and a 4th



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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:08 PM ET
but your the guy saying they aren't available.
how do you propose to secure one?

- IonSabres


I suppose the hope would be that the flat Cap forces a team into a bad decision

But if the best we can do is getting a 3C quality player, then we should be trading something more like Tage or Asplund & a pick
Then use Risto or Montour to help get a RW2
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:08 PM ET
If the cap stays flat they only have about 2.5 I believe
- Buff36

def. a trade or two coming there.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:09 PM ET
Cheer for both....TBL has some sense of how to run an organization. Been an Amerks fan since we moved to Rochester in 69. Went to many Amerks games in the 70's and 80's compliments of Fred Costello... family friend. Glad to get out of the state though.
- THENINELINE


Welcome!
I'm in Sarasota, about 45 minutes south of you.

Bolts are incredible to watch at the arena, go if you can get a ticket, you'll love it.
such a difference from Buffalo's KBC, unfortunately...top notch arena, team plays exciting style,
Hopefully, they aren't on the downslide at the end of their window.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:12 PM ET
its tough. if you could trade 7 for say a Schiefle. would you do it? yes? but, would the other team do it..
- wingz4life

In a heartbeat...and..no
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:16 PM ET
Tyler Johnson, Anthony Cirelli, Erik Cernak for Pick 7, Colin Miller and a 4th



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- homiedclown



Sure
But i doubt Tampa does it
Cirelli & Cernak are important players for them
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 25 @ 8:20 PM ET
def. a trade or two coming there.
- wingz4life

The bad thing is they always seem to find away, seems we have been saying that about them for 3 or 4 yrs
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:20 PM ET
I suppose the hope would be that the flat Cap forces a team into a bad decision

But if the best we can do is getting a 3C quality player, then we should be trading something more like Tage or Asplund & a pick
Then use Risto or Montour to help get a RW2

- jdfitz77



I hear and read this a lot.
assuming those teams would need Picks and/or ELC Players, what assets does Buffalo have to obtain a 70 point 2C?
2020-1st...NOPE, that is what teams hope their Top 5 pick becomes.

also, you have been beating the drum for Bonino as a stop gap 2C.
At 32; 1 Year at $4.1M and career 0.45 PPG … 35 Pt player
yet
Kerfott is
25, 3 @ $3.5m and career 0.50 PPG … 41 pt player

must be missing something.
The deal is not Risto for Kerfott, It is For Kerfoot and Johnsson
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:20 PM ET
Where are you getting the above from?

Lundell has been playing in a top men's league and has a strong enough overall game that he could make the Sabres as soon as next season, let along needing 3 years.

- kingcong39


So did Joel Armia and Jesse Puljujarvi.
THENINELINE
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.04.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:23 PM ET
some decisions to make for them . need to resign sergachev and cirelli and only have 7.5 mill in cap space
- wingz4life


True but that is where good management comes in to play. Be interesting to see how they handle it. Some teams are able to do what the sabres can't and that is draft well and trade well.
Maybe the new Sabres GM can play off of TB's misfortunes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:27 PM ET
In a heartbeat...and..no
- Michael Pachla


Scheifele is probably as untouchable as it gets
They don’t have much at Center behind him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
Sure
But i doubt Tampa does it
Cirelli & Cernak are important players for them

- jdfitz77

Cal Foote is ready for the NHL
they already signed Semykin and I heard they really like Alex Green
saves the bolts about 8-10 mil on their cap and gives them a top 7 pick


they are going to have to make a trade like that IMO
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
I hear and read this a lot.
assuming those teams would need Picks and/or ELC Players, what assets does Buffalo have to obtain a 70 point 2C?
2020-1st...NOPE, that is what teams hope their Top 5 pick becomes.

also, you have been beating the drum for Bonino as a stop gap 2C.
At 32; 1 Year at $4.1M and career 0.45 PPG … 35 Pt player
yet
Kerfott is
25, 3 @ $3.5m and career 0.50 PPG … 41 pt player

must be missing something.
The deal is not Risto for Kerfott, It is For Kerfoot and Johnsson

- IonSabres


My beating the drum for Bonino is taken out of context
The entire reason for that was the awful idea that we should trade for Ryan Johansen by some here
Bonino is better than him at half the salary

If u wanna compare him & Kerfoot,
here it is:

Kerfoot failed at 3C for the Leafs with tons of offensive talent around him
So much so, that many Leafs fans now think he should play the wing

Bonino is a GREAT 2way player and one of the best 3C in the entire league

So yeah...
IF we can’t get a legit 2C
Then please give me a guy like Bonino all day over Kerfoot
And don’t overpay for him either
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
Cal Foote is ready for the NHL
they already signed Semykin and I heard they really like Alex Green
saves the bolts about 8-10 mil on their cap and gives them a top 7 pick


they are going to have to make a trade like that IMO

- homiedclown

tampa has to have the best players they can surrounding their core because their core is in their prime.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
Cal Foote is ready for the NHL
they already signed Semykin and I heard they really like Alex Green
saves the bolts about 8-10 mil on their cap and gives them a top 7 pick


they are going to have to make a trade like that IMO

- homiedclown


VKG will need to make a deal as well.
Would love go get Tuch out of there. Throw them Tage in a package, maybe they buy into the big T (even though he plays like a kitten)

IMO, that frees up trading Rhino and not getting roped into a long term deal at $7+.
Although, he seems like a brown nose...probably calls Kerry and Tim as Mr and Mrs Pegula so Tim doesn't trade him.
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