Hey chunk while you make some valid points, other posters have pointed out that replacing a HOF head coach , with a young and inexperienced coach doesn't seem to pass the small test.

I'll even conseed that giving JC a shot was a gamble that you take. However Jc record didn't warrant standard extending him a contract.


Ever since chicago won its last cup the team is giving a perspective of uncertainty. Is chicago in a rebuild but just afraid to call it out for what it is or is chicago trying to win 1 more cup by tweeking the team?

Look back to the trades of panarin and Saad that seems to be the moment at which rash decisions were made.

I just think JC was better off staying in Rockford to hone his skills and develop these young kids. While chicago could have brought in someone with a more proven record.
- Taylorst1

I didn't mention anything about Colliton. The point I was making is that the portion of your argument that I disagreed with was that it is not a requirement that long experience is needed in order to be a successful head coach in the NHL, as several very successful coaches were that way out of the gate.

I also don't care much for what others say unless they have some suitable proof to back up their claims. I'm not trying to be flippant here or pretend I'm better than anyone else. It is simply a fact that experience behind an NHL bench is not alone a prerequisite for success.

I personally don't think the Hawks direction has been murky at all since '15. It was pretty clear by their actions that they were trying to do all that they could to compete for a cup while being pressed up against the cap for a number of years. Just because they weren't able to do it doesn't mean that they strayed from their goal. The last two years have been a shift away from that mindset (which is likely a considerable factor into why Q is no longer the coach).

Can't wait to watch the Hawks play 3 games then have another extended period of time without hockey.


- DarthKane

And deHaan, Toews and Kane get season ending injuries for the next season.

Curious as to why you seem to be giving the NFL a better chance that these other leagues at starting up. I would think that they would be at risk as much, if not more (larger rosters), than the others.
- Chunk

I think the NFL will struggle to get through their training camps the way Covid19 is going. Wipe out 3/4 of a team in one week.

I think (my first problem lol), they said that a player who tests positive will be quarantined for 7 days and everyone else will proceed as normal without them. Should be interesting to see which key players catch it and have to sit out.
- just69sayin

Started with 6 on Trump's rally staff, up to 8 in two days. "Only" one doesn't just get it.

This is rich coming from the guy that thought Keith and Saad for Trouba and Laine was a fair trade for both side.
- GPHawksfan

Over the last three years Hammer hasn't been any better than Murphy who is cheaper.

Per Ek:

The Final 6 per Pierre Lebrun, who has the direct link to the man in charge, are Chicago, Edmonton, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Toronto and Vancouver.

Toronto and Vancouver feel like perfect fits, but I would doubt the NHL would not have at least one American city.

I also would expect the NHL to not go to two western cities like Vancouver and Vegas...although I have been told it is not impossible...

The new favorite I keep hearing...the city on the chart with a bullet... is Chicago...

One source I know is betting on Vancouver and Chicago...

Chicago made a huge push and provided the NHL with everything it wants.

Where do you think the hub cities will be?

If they go through with this (I still say it's a big IF), am I the only one who thinks two Canadian cities hosting would be the best idea? Cooler average temps, less people overall, they seem to have done a better job of suppressing the numbers?

Why are you still posting? You arent a fan. Your ea troll. Stay away.
- just69sayin

Really need to come up with a new line, fake news and troll, common you can do better

Why are you still posting? You arent a fan. Your ea troll. Stay away.
- just69sayin

Btw you might want to change your user name, people might actually take what you say seriously

If that's the case I'm going to have to put a cork on my fork
- BetweenTheDots

Ruprecht!

Drake Caggiula from the Oilers for Brandon Manning.

Ryan Hartman to the Nashville Predators for a 1st pick ( Nicolas Beaudin) and a 4th pick (Philipp Kurashev) in the 2018.

Shall we continue down this path...again? No GM in any sport is going to bat 1.000. None. Best you can hope for is he wins more trades then he loses, that he guesses right on more prospects than he misses on and that he tries to correct his errors when he realizes he F'd up.



- Rota's Rooter

Beaudin from all the reports I've read chicago put alot of stock into him , but his numbers , play and development has led chicago to recently lower everyone's expectations. Until he actually makes his debut and plays he is merely a ? Regarding drake I wouldn't say it was a bad trade or great one.
Also drake's had concussion issues, I'm not blaming him but if a player is dogged by injuries it doesn't help the team.

As I mentioned stan has moved out quite a few pieces , tevo ,danault, panarin , leddy , joker

Hey Theo! Your guy!


#Blackhawks prospect Philipp Kurashev is skating in Phase 2. He had 19 points (7G, 12A) in 36 #AHL games for the #IceHogs.

HC Derek King: I really liked the way he performed. He looks like a pro, he does everything like a pro. It’s just getting comfortable and staying healthy.

Per Ek:

The Final 6 per Pierre Lebrun, who has the direct link to the man in charge, are Chicago, Edmonton, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Toronto and Vancouver.

Toronto and Vancouver feel like perfect fits, but I would doubt the NHL would not have at least one American city.

I also would expect the NHL to not go to two western cities like Vancouver and Vegas...although I have been told it is not impossible...

The new favorite I keep hearing...the city on the chart with a bullet... is Chicago...

One source I know is betting on Vancouver and Chicago...

Chicago made a huge push and provided the NHL with everything it wants.

Where do you think the hub cities will be?

If they go through with this (I still say it's a big IF), am I the only one who thinks two Canadian cities hosting would be the best idea? Cooler average temps, less people overall, they seem to have done a better job of suppressing the numbers?
- Chunk

If there will be no fans - and probably no press, including TV/radio announcers - what’s the difference what cities are involved (other than a minor boon to hotels / food providers)?

Might as well be a studio in Burbank or Radio City / Rockefeller Center.

Beaudin from all the reports I've read chicago put alot of stock into him , but his numbers , play and development has led chicago to recently lower everyone's expectations. Until he actually makes his debut and plays he is merely a ? Regarding drake I wouldn't say it was a bad trade or great one.
Also drake's had concussion issues, I'm not blaming him but if a player is dogged by injuries it doesn't help the team.

As I mentioned stan has moved out quite a few pieces , tevo ,danault, panarin , leddy , joker
- Taylorst1

With the exception of Danault, there's a sound explanation for every one of those moves.

If there will be no fans - and probably no press, including TV/radio announcers - what’s the difference what cities are involved (other than a minor boon to hotels / food providers)?

Might as well be a studio in Burbank or Radio City / Rockefeller Center.
- StLBravesFan

Agreed fantasy belongs in Hollywood.

Over the last three years Hammer hasn't been any better than Murphy who is cheaper.
- rpeters01

Agreed.

I didn't mention anything about Colliton. The point I was making is that the portion of your argument that I disagreed with was that it is not a requirement that long experience is needed in order to be a successful head coach in the NHL, as several very successful coaches were that way out of the gate.

I also don't care much for what others say unless they have some suitable proof to back up their claims. I'm not trying to be flippant here or pretend I'm better than anyone else. It is simply a fact that experience behind an NHL bench is not alone a prerequisite for success.

I personally don't think the Hawks direction has been murky at all since '15. It was pretty clear by their actions that they were trying to do all that they could to compete for a cup while being pressed up against the cap for a number of years. Just because they weren't able to do it doesn't mean that they strayed from their goal. The last two years have been a shift away from that mindset (which is likely a considerable factor into why Q is no longer the coach).
- Chunk

Ok chunk I'll except part of your response , however JC record last year putting all excuses aside did not warrant a extension. Generally when a head coach is fired and a interim head coach is installed it's his chance to audition and earn a opportunity. His losing record alone should make everyone wonder why stan gave him a contract.

Just to further elaborate on my point , the teams rashinnoning was JC needed a off season , plus training camp and a few moves to provide a better team ok I'll except that , however his record this year is awful .

I'm all for promoting someone to the position but I think we can all agree we expect positive winning results.

But I respect your point

Agreed fantasy belongs in Hollywood.
- rpeters01

I think some of the challenges are certain state governors who have imposed draconian rules and not followed the data but moved the goal post.

We should all remember lockdowns are unconstitutional, we take risks every day .

If there will be no fans - and probably no press, including TV/radio announcers - what’s the difference what cities are involved (other than a minor boon to hotels / food providers)?

Might as well be a studio in Burbank or Radio City / Rockefeller Center.
- StLBravesFan

At the end of the day, you are absolutely correct. I was thinking strictly logistically though.

I disagree with your point. Not many teams have a guy as highly skilled as panarin . Stan failed miserably to explain that chicago couldn't afford his next contract as well as getting a better return.

Stan was willing to overpay plenty of players whom didn't earn those high salaries. Can anyone point to any of his trades , where that player is still with this team or the pick we received we drafted X player ?


I remember when hammer was traded stan's own word from his press conference was Murphy is a cheaper and younger version of hammer. Murphy is at best a 3rd pairing defenseman doesn't really standout in anyway like hammer or a Keith.


Chicago had some really good pieces in place but mismanagement with contracts , and a scatter shot approach to trades and free agent signings and a head coach that is imo way over his skiis .


I think change is long overdue .
- Taylorst1

The Hammer since 2017 is showing the wear and tear of the other defenseman of the 3 cup era. He looked slower than slow in that Nashville sweep. He is not worth $5 mil. today which his current salary is. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jammer hang it up after this season and his contract is up. As far as Murphy, I see him as a top 4 defender. You are right he does not stand out, but he definitely can play against top 6 forwards.

If there will be no fans - and probably no press, including TV/radio announcers - what’s the difference what cities are involved (other than a minor boon to hotels / food providers)?

Might as well be a studio in Burbank or Radio City / Rockefeller Center.
- StLBravesFan

UFC training center or fight island?

Hey Theo! Your guy!


#Blackhawks prospect Philipp Kurashev is skating in Phase 2. He had 19 points (7G, 12A) in 36 #AHL games for the #IceHogs.

HC Derek King: I really liked the way he performed. He looks like a pro, he does everything like a pro. It’s just getting comfortable and staying healthy.
- Chunk

I'm excited to see Kurashev on the ice, hopefully pushing for not only a spot amongst the Black Aces but perhaps even an early audition for next season.

Regula also joined Kurashev on the ice at the same time. That one surprised me but also look forward to seeing what he can bring to the blueline.

I believe the following are at the voluntary skates so far: Kane, DeBrincat, Strome, Nylander, Subban, Murphy, Koekkoek, Kurashev, and Regula.

Ok chunk I'll except part of your response , however JC record last year putting all excuses aside did not warrant a extension. Generally when a head coach is fired and a interim head coach is installed it's his chance to audition and earn a opportunity. His losing record alone should make everyone wonder why stan gave him a contract.

Just to further elaborate on my point , the teams rashinnoning was JC needed a off season , plus training camp and a few moves to provide a better team ok I'll except that , however his record this year is awful .

I'm all for promoting someone to the position but I think we can all agree we expect positive winning results.

But I respect your point
- Taylorst1

Again, where did I make any defense of Colliton? I don't care about JC being the coach right now. The results this team has gotten the last two years is equal to the talent on the ice. I was against the timing of the move. I was against giving JC a three year contract when he was put into position (instead of using the interim tag).

You made the argument that experience was needed in a head coach. I pointed out that there is enough evidence out there that says that viewpoint doesn't hold water (in my opinion). The team has a mix of aging vets (particularly on D) and very young kids. That is not a recipe for success in most instances unless the kids play head and shoulders over their expectations. As much as it pains us to say, we are closer to Detroit than we are STL or TB. The coach is part of that result, but I would argue not the main one.

Beaudin from all the reports I've read chicago put alot of stock into him , but his numbers , play and development has led chicago to recently lower everyone's expectations. Until he actually makes his debut and plays he is merely a ? Regarding drake I wouldn't say it was a bad trade or great one.
Also drake's had concussion issues, I'm not blaming him but if a player is dogged by injuries it doesn't help the team.

As I mentioned stan has moved out quite a few pieces , tevo ,danault, panarin , leddy , joker
- Taylorst1

Quick clarification: Beaudin did make his debut in the last game of the season vs the Sharks. It was just one game but he played pretty well, keeping it simple and playing safe fundamental defense.

Beaudin from all the reports I've read chicago put alot of stock into him , but his numbers , play and development has led chicago to recently lower everyone's expectations. Until he actually makes his debut and plays he is merely a ? Regarding drake I wouldn't say it was a bad trade or great one.
Also drake's had concussion issues, I'm not blaming him but if a player is dogged by injuries it doesn't help the team.

As I mentioned stan has moved out quite a few pieces , tevo ,danault, panarin , leddy , joker
- Taylorst1

I guess the fact that he initially acquired Leddy and Panarin and drafted the others doesn't count?

Yup. Drake plays reckless to his own detriment but, he got rid of Brandon "Frickin" Manning for someone who can play when healthy.

The jury is still out on Beaudin but, Hartman is on his what, 4th team now? I don't even know where he's playing.

Let's change it up big shot. Name me a GM that is perfect. Has won every trade. Has drafted all 1st and 2nd liners and HOF goalies. Came out on the winning side of every contract negotiation and has never flirted with cap hell.

I'll wait.

I guess the fact that he initially acquired Leddy and Panarin and drafted the others doesn't count?

Yup. Drake plays reckless to his own detriment but, he got rid of Brandon "Frickin" Manning for someone who can play when healthy.

The jury is still out on Beaudin but, Hartman is on his what, 4th team now? I don't even know where he's playing.

Let's change it up big shot. Name me a GM that is perfect. Has won every trade. Has drafted all 1st and 2nd liners and HOF goalies. Came out on the winning side of every contract negotiation and has never flirted with cap hell.

I'll wait.

- Rota's Rooter

Or how about keeping Leddy, Tuevo, Panarin, Danault. That is $22.5 million in AAV salary. Where does that money come from? Remember you need to at least dress 20 for a game.