I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but I wouldn't put any money on that. They still need to approve the sites, organize testing, and make sure that safety of everyone involved can be accounted for. I would like nothing more than to have hockey to watch, but the longer this goes, I think we are going to be without sports for a while.
- Chunk

They have to at least try though. This isn't going away before the next season or anytime soon, so they try now and see how it goes and where they need to improve moving forward.

From my perspective, Q seemed to play the guys who he thought gave him the best chance to win. I agree with you saying that he wasn't a "developmental" coach. But I don't think he scratched younger players simply because they were young.

If Stan doesn't add Kunitz, Manning, Ward, and bring back Kruger then Q doesn't have the chance to play them over younger guys. So, it's not ALL on Q. I will say that if a rookie and vet were seen as equal, it appeared that Q leaned toward the vet.

As an aside, I've had this recurring thought in my head of whether Q would still be the coach if the Hawks went after de Haan before 2018. I think just having another steady D-man back there would have made a world of difference.
- Chunk

Sure, but i do recall Stan playing guys like Mashinter, Bollig way too much over young guys

There will be no conclusion to the 19-20 NBA or NHL seasons. MLB is a long shot to even begin playing. NFL has a 50/50 chance at playing their season.

Gonna be PGA and NASCAR for the foreseeable future. COVID-19 spreads too easily.
- scottak

If that's the case I'm going to have to put a cork on my fork

Well done, Theo.

Enjoy your time away, Tyler.

If Q was still the coach Stan would of never traded Manning for Cagiula. I think the Hjarmelsson trade and Q's reaction encapsulizes what Q thought of any "rebuild on the fly".
- LAHawk

Sort of the same reaction that Phil & MJ had when Krause decided that ‘organizations win championships, not players’.

Sure, but i do recall Stan playing guys like Mashinter, Bollig way too much over young guys
- BetweenTheDots

I'm guessing you meant Q?

Indeed he did. There were a few people that were saying the big guns liked having guys like that on the team and playing. Not sure whether or not that is true, but it could have some influence there.

Mashinter…. WTF???

They have to at least try though. This isn't going away before the next season or anytime soon, so they try now and see how it goes and where they need to improve moving forward.
- GPHawksfan

Absolutely. I don't fault them at all for trying. In fact, I encourage it. I just think between the difficulties in getting the whole thing organized, and executed in a safe manner and the optics as more and more infections are reported it will become increasingly difficult to see it through. I hope I'm wrong.

As a side note, as positive tests are rising, the number of fatalities seem to be remaining low (for now). I haven't had the chance to dig into the numbers all that much, but if we don't see the fatalities increase in the next couple weeks, that could be a positive trend that would favor this tournament.

There will be no conclusion to the 19-20 NBA or NHL seasons. MLB is a long shot to even begin playing. NFL has a 50/50 chance at playing their season.

Gonna be PGA and NASCAR for the foreseeable future. COVID-19 spreads too easily.
- scottak

Curious as to why you seem to be giving the NFL a better chance that these other leagues at starting up. I would think that they would be at risk as much, if not more (larger rosters), than the others.

They have to at least try though. This isn't going away before the next season or anytime soon, so they try now and see how it goes and where they need to improve moving forward.
- GPHawksfan

Good point trial by error. Imo its going to happen some player coach staff will get it how will the nhl and others involved react?

Good point trial by error. Imo its going to happen some player coach staff will get it how will the nhl and others involved react?
- Scott1977

I think (my first problem lol), they said that a player who tests positive will be quarantined for 7 days and everyone else will proceed as normal without them. Should be interesting to see which key players catch it and have to sit out.

Curious as to why you seem to be giving the NFL a better chance that these other leagues at starting up. I would think that they would be at risk as much, if not more (larger rosters), than the others.
- Chunk

Hockey: players gasp for air and they recover side by side on the bench. Football players huddle together and on sidelines. Perhaps the football players in huddle or sidelines have some sort of social distancing....but what about practice sessions for both sports.

A sticky wicket no matter the particular sport

There will be no conclusion to the 19-20 NBA or NHL seasons. MLB is a long shot to even begin playing. NFL has a 50/50 chance at playing their season.

Gonna be PGA and NASCAR for the foreseeable future. COVID-19 spreads too easily.
- scottak

Bundesliga has been back up and running for over a month with zero interruptions. No surges in cases. Everyone is healthy. Many other world football leagues are also back in action.

If they can do it, why can’t we? We just need to be smarter and use proper mitigation. It can be done. People need to start wearing masks more frequently in the surging southern states. They really make a difference.

Curious as to why you seem to be giving the NFL a better chance that these other leagues at starting up. I would think that they would be at risk as much, if not more (larger rosters), than the others.
- Chunk

They can wait until the fall, or even start after Christmas. There is an expiration day on NBA & NHL. At some point, you just start the next season. And MLB won’t work in the winter. Theyv3 got to be done by the end of October.

Absolutely. I don't fault them at all for trying. In fact, I encourage it. I just think between the difficulties in getting the whole thing organized, and executed in a safe manner and the optics as more and more infections are reported it will become increasingly difficult to see it through. I hope I'm wrong.

As a side note, as positive tests are rising, the number of fatalities seem to be remaining low (for now). I haven't had the chance to dig into the numbers all that much, but if we don't see the fatalities increase in the next couple weeks, that could be a positive trend that would favor this tournament.
- Chunk

Except heart and kidney issues are way up. I heard and I don't know if it is true that dialysis patients are having trouble getting their regular dialysis because so many covid patients have come down with kidney issues?

Well done, Theo.

Enjoy your time away, Tyler.
- Elbows15

Thanks, Elbows! Hope all is well with your family.

Bundesliga has been back up and running for over a month with zero interruptions. No surges in cases. Everyone is healthy. Many other world football leagues are also back in action.

If they can do it, why can’t we? We just need to be smarter and use proper mitigation. It can be done. People need to start wearing masks more frequently in the surging southern states. They really make a difference.
- SimpleJack

No stop. You are making too much sense

They can wait until the fall, or even start after Christmas. There is an expiration day on NBA & NHL. At some point, you just start the next season. And MLB won’t work in the winter. Theyv3 got to be done by the end of October.
- scottak

MLB can play in AZ or FLA in the winter. Not to be a smart aleck but why do you say there is an expiration day on the NHL? (NBA already expired, in my last 20 years of sporadic viewing attempts)

Sure, but i do recall Stan playing guys like Mashinter, Bollig way too much over young guys
- BetweenTheDots

Why are you still posting? You arent a fan. Your ea troll. Stay away.

They have to at least try though. This isn't going away before the next season or anytime soon, so they try now and see how it goes and where they need to improve moving forward.
- GPHawksfan

Oh you learned your lesson eh. Good to see you being cool. I apologize for being rude. Enjoy

Hey chunk while you make some valid points, other posters have pointed out that replacing a HOF head coach , with a young and inexperienced coach doesn't seem to pass the small test.

I'll even conseed that giving JC a shot was a gamble that you take. However Jc record didn't warrant standard extending him a contract.


Ever since chicago won its last cup the team is giving a perspective of uncertainty. Is chicago in a rebuild but just afraid to call it out for what it is or is chicago trying to win 1 more cup by tweeking the team?

Look back to the trades of panarin and Saad that seems to be the moment at which rash decisions were made.

I just think JC was better off staying in Rockford to hone his skills and develop these young kids. While chicago could have brought in someone with a more proven record.

Hey chunk while you make some valid points, other posters have pointed out that replacing a HOF head coach , with a young and inexperienced coach doesn't seem to pass the small test.

I'll even conseed that giving JC a shot was a gamble that you take. However Jc record didn't warrant standard extending him a contract.


Ever since chicago won its last cup the team is giving a perspective of uncertainty. Is chicago in a rebuild but just afraid to call it out for what it is or is chicago trying to win 1 more cup by tweeking the team?

Look back to the trades of panarin and Saad that seems to be the moment at which rash decisions were made.

I just think JC was better off staying in Rockford to hone his skills and develop these young kids. While chicago could have brought in someone with a more proven record.
- Taylorst1

I don't think the trades were rash decisions. Saad definitely wanted more money than what the team was willing to pay at the time, and they knew they wouldn't be able to fit Panarin's next salary within the cap either. Now whether or not the Hawks got fair return is a good discussion, I don't think the trades themselves were rash decisions. If anything, Stan has been faulted for being too careful in making deals.

I don't think the trades were rash decisions. Saad definitely wanted more money than what the team was willing to pay at the time, and they knew they wouldn't be able to fit Panarin's next salary within the cap either. Now whether or not the Hawks got fair return is a good discussion, I don't think the trades themselves were rash decisions. If anything, Stan has been faulted for being too careful in making deals.
- LAHawk

Stop it. You're making perfect sense of the situation at that time. Stanley also needs to be Nostradamus dontchaknow.

I don't think the trades were rash decisions. Saad definitely wanted more money than what the team was willing to pay at the time, and they knew they wouldn't be able to fit Panarin's next salary within the cap either. Now whether or not the Hawks got fair return is a good discussion, I don't think the trades themselves were rash decisions. If anything, Stan has been faulted for being too careful in making deals.
- LAHawk

I disagree with your point. Not many teams have a guy as highly skilled as panarin . Stan failed miserably to explain that chicago couldn't afford his next contract as well as getting a better return.

Stan was willing to overpay plenty of players whom didn't earn those high salaries. Can anyone point to any of his trades , where that player is still with this team or the pick we received we drafted X player ?


I remember when hammer was traded stan's own word from his press conference was Murphy is a cheaper and younger version of hammer. Murphy is at best a 3rd pairing defenseman doesn't really standout in anyway like hammer or a Keith.


Chicago had some really good pieces in place but mismanagement with contracts , and a scatter shot approach to trades and free agent signings and a head coach that is imo way over his skiis .


I think change is long overdue .

I disagree with your point. Not many teams have a guy as highly skilled as panarin . Stan failed miserably to explain that chicago couldn't afford his next contract as well as getting a better return.

Stan was willing to overpay plenty of players whom didn't earn those high salaries. Can anyone point to any of his trades , where that player is still with this team or the pick we received we drafted X player ?


I remember when hammer was traded stan's own word from his press conference was Murphy is a cheaper and younger version of hammer. Murphy is at best a 3rd pairing defenseman doesn't really standout in anyway like hammer or a Keith.


Chicago had some really good pieces in place but mismanagement with contracts , and a scatter shot approach to trades and free agent signings and a head coach that is imo way over his skiis .


I think change is long overdue .
- Taylorst1

Drake Caggiula from the Oilers for Brandon Manning.

Ryan Hartman to the Nashville Predators for a 1st pick ( Nicolas Beaudin) and a 4th pick (Philipp Kurashev) in the 2018.

Shall we continue down this path...again? No GM in any sport is going to bat 1.000. None. Best you can hope for is he wins more trades then he loses, that he guesses right on more prospects than he misses on and that he tries to correct his errors when he realizes he F'd up.

I disagree with your point. Not many teams have a guy as highly skilled as panarin . Stan failed miserably to explain that chicago couldn't afford his next contract as well as getting a better return.

Stan was willing to overpay plenty of players whom didn't earn those high salaries. Can anyone point to any of his trades , where that player is still with this team or the pick we received we drafted X player ?


I remember when hammer was traded stan's own word from his press conference was Murphy is a cheaper and younger version of hammer. Murphy is at best a 3rd pairing defenseman doesn't really standout in anyway like hammer or a Keith.


Chicago had some really good pieces in place but mismanagement with contracts , and a scatter shot approach to trades and free agent signings and a head coach that is imo way over his skiis .


I think change is long overdue .
- Taylorst1

This is rich coming from the guy that thought Keith and Saad for Trouba and Laine was a fair trade for both side.