More scouts fired by the Sabres, Cory Banika, Steve Cocker, Mark Ferner, Marcus Fingal, Scott Halpenny, Randy Hansch, Teemu Numminen, Tom O'Connor, Ron Pyette, Matt Tresling, Magnus Welin and John VanBoxmeer.

A couple thoughts...

One, from Riv, Petey, Razor this morning. It seems a lot of focus is on the potential of an internal cap and Pach even did a potential roster with a $75 mill ceiling... but but if it’s a overall player cap and by cutting some of the “vets” in Rochester, you are freeing up some internal cap space in Buffalo. So, listed below at the Rochester players over the age of 25 and what they are making. Who stays and who goes? And what’s the organizational savings?

AHL payroll...
Wilson (28) - $1.05 mill
Oglevie (25) - $925k
JSD (26) - $700k
Ellie - $700k
Cj Smith (25) - $700k
Lier (26) - $700k
Dalton (27) - $700k
Nelson (27) - $813
Gilmore (27) - $700k
Hammond (32) - $700k.

The second thought is from Friedman and looking at making some of the personal and making them “At will” employee’s or if contractual having pandemic language in the contracts. Allowing the club “off the hook” if you will. Maybe they are going to be looking into a different model or language in their hiring practices. Shrewd, yes... and I’m not smart enough to think through all the pros and cons of such moves.... but you might be seeing the start of trying something completely different from employment and/or contract language.

Not saying any of this is good or bad. Just things to discuss.
- Gr8daygo

At least a few of those guys are on 2 way deals. If you want to save $, the first thing you do is minimize the one-way deals. Of course, that assumes the AHL plays games next year.

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Rehab and Development coach Dennis Miller is also no longer with the team.


Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Currently they have a Head of Collegiate Scouting, four amateur scouts and two pro scouts. 11 amateur scouts have been fired and one pro scout.

More scouts fired by the Sabres, Cory Banika, Steve Cocker, Mark Ferner, Marcus Fingal, Scott Halpenny, Randy Hansch, Teemu Numminen, Tom O'Connor, Ron Pyette, Matt Tresling, Magnus Welin and John VanBoxmeer.
- jochfr

Are there any scouts left? Or just a minimum wage guy (or gal) to push play on video scout 3000....

Are there any scouts left? Or just a minimum wage guy (or gal) to push play on video scout 3000....
- Gr8daygo

Bathroom attendant is our head scout.

5 XXXX isn't far away?
You lost me there.
- IonSabres

Five roster spots, including trading away Reinhart and Risto, which presumably can fill two of them. Find an internal solution for one spot, and then sign two players.

It's really not that hard. Botts was unable to make a deal for a 2C, a top six wing, or any sort of goalie help. Any one of those moves and we are better, two of them and we are good. It's 100% on Botteril, not the cheap Pegulas, who at least spent over the cap.

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Rehab and Development coach Dennis Miller is also no longer with the team.


Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Currently they have a Head of Collegiate Scouting, four amateur scouts and two pro scouts. 11 amateur scouts have been fired and one pro scout.
- jochfr

Too bad there won't be a live draft this year. I would have liked to have seen Adams sitting at the Sabres draft table with Terry, Kim and Ralph - and nobody else.

What a joke of an organization. When Darcy promised some "suffering" for Sabres fans, I honestly didn't realize he meant two decades worth of it.

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
According to
@LLysowski
Numminen resigned, he was not fired.

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
According to
@LLysowski
Numminen resigned, he was not fired.
- jochfr

Good for him. Seriously.

Good for him. Seriously.
- TheHank

Abandon ship!

Abandon ship!
- jochfr

I would’ve done the same thing. Good on him.

Definitely no point to post it.
- Mentalorgasm5

when you get bored, check out all the people of color in high positions of any of the terry pegula companies


past or present



you will not find a single person of color in high power in any of his companies



and terry is a republican

More scouts fired by the Sabres, Cory Banika, Steve Cocker, Mark Ferner, Marcus Fingal, Scott Halpenny, Randy Hansch, Teemu Numminen, Tom O'Connor, Ron Pyette, Matt Tresling, Magnus Welin and John VanBoxmeer.
- jochfr

any left?

time for the video scouting department, we only have enough money to hire one, and kevyn drew the short straw

when you get bored, check out all the people of color in high positions of any of the terry pegula companies

past or present

you will not find a single person of color in high power in any of his companies

and terry is a republican

- homiedclown

His wife doesn't count as part of the Sabres and Bills, or do you mean their non-sports companies?

when you get bored, check out all the people of color in high positions of any of the terry pegula companies


past or present



you will not find a single person of color in high power in any of his companies



and terry is a republican

- homiedclown

I was told it’s because they don’t talk normal and they shoot one another every other night.

any left?

time for the video scouting department, we only have enough money to hire one, and kevyn drew the short straw
- homiedclown

YouTube scouting is the best way! Says Kim and terry pegula!

Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Rehab and Development coach Dennis Miller is also no longer with the team.


Paul Hamilton
@pham1717
Currently they have a Head of Collegiate Scouting, four amateur scouts and two pro scouts. 11 amateur scouts have been fired and one pro scout.
- jochfr

If you need to laugh ..... check out the leafs staff. They have an entire army of scouts and analytics people

Mean while here in buffalo we have 4 scouts

His wife doesn't count as part of the Sabres and Bills, or do you mean their non-sports companies?
- kingcong39

any

If you need to laugh ..... check out the leafs staff. They have an entire army of scouts and analytics people

Mean while here in buffalo we have 4 scouts
- Sabretooth9

honest question; would the central scouting dept have been any worse than what we've drafted over the last 11 years?

meh

they shoot one another every other night.
- Der Kaiser

chicago mayor doesn't want to talk about it

honest question; would the central scouting dept have been any worse than what we've drafted over the last 11 years?

meh
- TheHank

imagine if murray drafted bennett instead of the skunk

imagine if murray drafted bennett instead of the skunk
- homiedclown

Skunk stinks, we'd be better off. Or so I'm lead to believe.

If you need to laugh ..... check out the leafs staff. They have an entire army of scouts and analytics people

Mean while here in buffalo we have 4 scouts
- Sabretooth9

It truly is sad. Kim and Terry seemed flustered, unprepared and fake in the presser.

This could get real ugly. I worry the team isn't going to make it here long term. A barrier between ownership and the fans has formed, lot of distrust. Winning cures a lot, but it doesn't look like we're going to get saved by that.

I hope Adams is a real life super hero.

It truly is sad. Kim and Terry seemed flustered, unprepared and fake in the presser.

This could get real ugly. I worry the team isn't going to make it here long term. A barrier between ownership and the fans has formed, lot of distrust. Winning cures a lot, but it doesn't look like we're going to get saved by that.

I hope Adams is a real life super hero.
- RhinoFan

I have 5 friends who were on the fence about renewing their season tickets

all 5 did, and regretted it last night

I have 7 friends who were on the fence for getting season tickets next year, all 7 glad they didn't

I have 5 friends who were on the fence about renewing their season tickets

all 5 did, and regretted it last night

I have 7 friends who were on the fence for getting season tickets next year, all 7 glad they didn't
- homiedclown

Don't be lying about having friends...