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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
From his interview this morning, he's heavily implying that he will be building a new, experienced front office staff.
- TheSabresTaco


I was impressed. He seems bright and articulate. Said he's big on analytics and understands the center issue

Nice to listen to someone who has more charisma than a toaster
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
A few people have told me things that I didn't believe at first, but now I am leaning more toward believing it

Take it as you will

That is all I am going to say

- Stripes77


So you're going to heavily hint at some seedy, untoward behavior that you didn't even believe at first, and you're connecting names as well, without detail?

That's a poopty way to say something without going into detail.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Sal Maiorana
@salmaiorana
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4m
New Sabres GM Kevyn Adams essentially just said on WGR that moving forward, the priority for the Amerks will be player development. Read between the lines: Lots of kids, winning not really a priority.

- Stripes77



Maybe Rochester a actually wins a playoff round.

Teaches the prospects that winning in the playoffs matters.

Between the lines:

Pegulas spent tons of $ on hired ahl players, coaches and an assistant gm for nothing.

Great regular season record isnt impressive to me
100goalseason
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Shanghai
Joined: 01.22.2010

Jun 17 @ 9:36 AM ET
Do you think Jack asks for a trade or a wait and see what happens this off-season?
- devias69


I bet he asks for one. Go right to Terry and say, "I want out".
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
So you're going to heavily hint at some seedy, untoward behavior that you didn't even believe at first, and you're connecting names as well, without detail?

That's a poopty way to say something without going into detail.

- kingcong39



Like I said that's all I am going to say about it
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Maybe Rochester a actually wins a playoff round.

Teaches the prospects that winning in the playoffs matters.

Between the lines:

Pegulas spent tons of $ on hired ahl players, coaches and an assistant gm for nothing.

Great regular season record isnt impressive to me

- Boss34


Had that Athletic article and "maintaining family lifestyle" edict not come out, trimming the fat in the organization wouldn't look that bad. They beefed up the coaching and scouting staff, and had nothing to show for it in nine years.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Maybe Rochester a actually wins a playoff round.

Teaches the prospects that winning in the playoffs matters.

Between the lines:

Pegulas spent tons of $ on hired ahl players, coaches and an assistant gm for nothing.

Great regular season record isnt impressive to me

- Boss34



They won't sniff they playoffs just like they didn't the 3 years before Taylor, last in the north 3 years in a row
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Maybe Rochester a actually wins a playoff round.

Teaches the prospects that winning in the playoffs matters.

Between the lines:

Pegulas spent tons of $ on hired ahl players, coaches and an assistant gm for nothing.

Great regular season record isnt impressive to me

- Boss34


Sounds like the Leafs, who haven't won a playoff round since...2004?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:39 AM ET
Like I said that's all I am going to say about it
- Stripes77


Nice. This is the stuff of The National Enquirer.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:40 AM ET
I'm with you taco.

I like the hire. Adams seems quite capable to surround himself with a great staff. Positions above and below the gm spot seems likely.

McDermott then Beane
Ralph then Adam's.

- Boss34


I *want* to like the hire. I won't dare write him off, but hiring yet another guy with no GM or even asst. GM experience does not inspire confidence. Every man is different. So saying man A will be like man B because of reasons X and Y is a faulty argument. Some of the most successful people in the world only have a high school diploma. But many more are losers. I think Kevyn Adams has been extremely successful at all the roles he's taken on. So I think the man has the ability to be successful, as long as he embraces those that he knows are smarter than him in other areas, which he's repeated he has no problem doing.

I encourage everyone to listen to his interview with Howard and the one coming up on Instigators. My confidence level has bottomed out, but I have no reason to know that he will fail. The reasons he fired a lot of the staff are actually interesting.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
Like I said that's all I am going to say about it
- Stripes77


Wow I love how you all are hating on Kim when every president makes tough decisions .(besides trump he's an idiot)

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:42 AM ET
I *want* to like the hire. I won't dare write him off, but hiring yet another guy with no GM or even asst. GM experience does not inspire confidence. Every man is different. So saying man A will be like man B because of reasons X and Y is a faulty argument. Some of the most successful people in the world only have a high school diploma. But many more are losers. I think Kevyn Adams has been extremely successful at all the roles he's taken on. So I think the man has the ability to be successful, as long as he embraces those that he knows are smarter than him in other areas, which he's repeated he has no problem doing.

I encourage everyone to listen to his interview with Howard and the one coming up on Instigators. My confidence level has bottomed out, but I have no reason to know that he will fail. The reasons he fired a lot of the staff are actually interesting.

- TheSabresTaco


Any experienced GM would want to bring in "his own guys". I can't blame Kevyn Adams for wanting to do the same. We'll have to see who he brings in, and if it works.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:43 AM ET
They won't sniff they playoffs just like they didn't the 3 years before Taylor, last in the north 3 years in a row
- Stripes77


So let them have a coach that can't get to the next level... smart

You all would be asking for his head if he did that with the Sabres..

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:43 AM ET
Wow I love how you all are hating on Kim when every president makes tough decisions .(besides trump he's an idiot)
- gerbe75pts

The owners are garbage. Period. 9 years no playoffs, and now they want to cut back on costs.

They suck
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
Some of guys have problems with a woman in power smh ...

And people wonder why Taylor swift made that song

- gerbe75pts

it's not that she is a woman

it's that she is a failure at her job


the sabres are the biggest sh!t show in the nhl, and she is pulling the strings
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jun 17 @ 9:45 AM ET
it's not that she is a woman

it's that she is a failure at her job


the sabres are the biggest sh!t show in the nhl, and she is pulling the strings

- homiedclown

shes needs another 9 years. just 9 more to get this worked out. these things take time.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:45 AM ET
Had that Athletic article and "maintaining family lifestyle" edict not come out, trimming the fat in the organization wouldn't look that bad. They beefed up the coaching and scouting staff, and had nothing to show for it in nine years.
- buffalofan19


This is important. Quantity is nothing without quality. We're no where. In nine (frank)ing years. And honestly, beyond that. Last time we were in the playoffs, we were riding on the coat tails of the drafts before 2004.

It sounds like KA is placing scouting at a premium. Scouting that works WITH analytics that works WITH player development. It really sounds like they were all on different pages. Which is absolutely zero surprising.

You find a bunch of scouts, player development coaches and hockey managers that all want to work with one another to find the best players ("acting, not reacting") for the Sabres, this team will theoretically look so, so much better.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
it's not that she is a woman

it's that she is a failure at her job


the sabres are the biggest sh!t show in the nhl, and she is pulling the strings

- homiedclown


They finally cleaned house you all should be happy
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
Really? .. every single comment is a about Kim
And the racist one Asian hate money lost wtf...

- gerbe75pts

Well the "Asians hate to lose money comment is definitely a stereotype, its not exactly racist. Dumb comment nonetheless.

However, Kim Pegula sucking at the job has nothing to do with her being a female. This ownership group has shown an absurd level of incompetence when it comes to the Sabres.

This is one of, if not, the worst 10 years of hockey by any franchise in the NHL. Let that sink in for a moment. No franchise has had a 10 year period with this lousy of a performance.

They need to remove themselves from hockey related decisions. Just because you can run a company does not mean you can run a professional sports franchise. They have showed a great deal of ignorance by not realizing this sentiment.

If they do not remove themselves from the day to day decision making we will follow the path of Daniel Snyder and the Redskins.

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:47 AM ET
They finally cleaned house you all should be happy
- gerbe75pts



They didn't though

Kevin Devine is somehow still employed

How is that even possible?

The cleaning house thing is one, how they did it is another and who they replaced them with is the third

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:47 AM ET
This is important. Quantity is nothing without quality. We're no where. In nine (frank)ing years. And honestly, beyond that. Last time we were in the playoffs, we were riding on the coat tails of the drafts before 2004.

It sounds like KA is placing scouting at a premium. Scouting that works WITH analytics that works WITH player development. It really sounds like they were all on different pages. Which is absolutely zero surprising.

You find a bunch of scouts, player development coaches and hockey managers that all want to work with one another to find the best players ("acting, not reacting") for the Sabres, this team will theoretically look so, so much better.

- TheSabresTaco

Someone brought this up yesterday, this is the exact thing they have said at all 3 press conferences when Darcy, Murray, and Botts have been fired

Seems it's pretty tough to get on the Pegula's page
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:47 AM ET
Any experienced GM would want to bring in "his own guys". I can't blame Kevyn Adams for wanting to do the same. We'll have to see who he brings in, and if it works.
- buffalofan19


As long as he actually brings in guys, like he heavily suggests he will do, the anger around here will likely subside, at least for a bit.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
John Vogl
@BuffaloVogl
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1m
Terry and Kim Pegula believe Kevyn Adams will be a successful general manager.

The Sabres owners know Adams will listen to them.

The second sentence may be more important than the first.


Gotta love Vogl
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
They didn't though

Kevin Devine is somehow still employed

How is that even possible?

The cleaning house thing is one, how they did it is another and who they replaced them with is the third

- Stripes77


The firing is probably not done ...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
Someone brought this up yesterday, this is the exact thing they have said at all 3 press conferences when Darcy, Murray, and Botts have been fired

Seems it's pretty tough to get on the Pegula's page

- sbroads24


Kevyn was quoted this morning with Howard saying that. I personally have never heard that suggestion before from the past GMs.
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