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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
As much as I think Pearson is a good deal I would trade him and recoup a pick.

You have players that can play there .

I will let the team do what they need to . Unlike some in here , seems like Jim and the boys know what they are doing even though the NHL will remove 5 mil off their original cap announcement.

People have to remember every other team lost that same 5 mil in cap space.

- VANTEL

When did the cap drop 5m?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Without knowing what may transpire, as a result of this shutdown, I wouldnt be making rash decisions.
This is an opinion based on things being normal and players getting 6, 7 and 8 million dollar contracts.
I can see players taking 1 or 2 year deals hoping to cash in when things maybe/if things get back to the old normal.
I can easily see Jake and Gaudette taking 1 year deals and Tanev as well.
I do agree, losing Tanev will be a big hole to fill.

- Reubenkincade



You are 100 % correct

Tanev did say he wants to stay here and he expects a salary drop.

So many different possibilities and scenarios . I do expect someone to get traded seein we have too many forwards and more coming on the way. I expect Sven will be part of the deal.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
Yup, at a very high cost. Cumbersome contracts and picks & prospects out the door.
Two fantastic picks dropped in his lap, though.

- Marwood

Great strategy falling back in the drafts.
JB is a genius đź‘Ť
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
You are 100 % correct

Tanev did say he wants to stay here and he expects a salary drop.

So many different possibilities and scenarios . I do expect someone to get traded seein we have too many forwards and more coming on the way. I expect Sven will be part of the deal.

- VANTEL

Baertschi is a guy that will cost you assets to get rid of, something the Canucks are in short supply of. Not a good situation to be in. Let him play in the “A” and ride out his contract.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
You are 100 % correct

Tanev did say he wants to stay here and he expects a salary drop.

So many different possibilities and scenarios . I do expect someone to get traded seein we have too many forwards and more coming on the way. I expect Sven will be part of the deal.

- VANTEL


I expect some type of rollback on salaries, who knows what may transpire.
Jeff Skinner making more than Crosby is mind-boggling.
And these ridiculous contracts were why the salary cap got introduced, supposedly.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
When did the cap drop 5m?
- Nighthawk



Before the draft the NHL announced the salary cap was going up from 81.5 to 84.5 next year . That is why Capfriendly shows it at 84.5 because there has been no other statement yet from the NHL that the salary will be flat. There was the added escrow talk among that it was going up 2-3 mil .

All of that is all off the table now.

Another thing is if fans are not allowed in the buildings next year no one has to worry about a season that may not happen
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
I expect some type of rollback on salaries, who knows what may transpire.
Jeff Skinner making more than Crosby is mind-boggling.
And these ridiculous contracts were why the salary cap got introduced, supposedly.

- Reubenkincade



Many many teams are going to be wheeling and dealing this off season. Gonna suck to be an UFA
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
Without knowing what may transpire, as a result of this shutdown, I wouldnt be making rash decisions.
This is an opinion based on things being normal and players getting 6, 7 and 8 million dollar contracts.
I can see players taking 1 or 2 year deals hoping to cash in when things maybe/if things get back to the old normal.
I can easily see Jake and Gaudette taking 1 year deals and Tanev as well.
I do agree, losing Tanev will be a big hole to fill.

- Reubenkincade

RD used little to no imagination. Premature to even guess what will happen. Anyones guess is good as the next guy’s.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
Baertschi is a guy that will cost you assets to get rid of, something the Canucks are in short supply of. Not a good situation to be in. Let him play in the “A” and ride out his contract.
- Pacificgem




So it cost you an asset.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:09 PM ET
Baertschi is a guy that will cost you assets to get rid of, something the Canucks are in short supply of. Not a good situation to be in. Let him play in the “A” and ride out his contract.
- Pacificgem

Why will he cost assets?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
Before the draft the NHL announced the salary cap was going up from 81.5 to 84.5 next year . That is why Capfriendly shows it at 84.5 because there has been no other statement yet from the NHL that the salary will be flat. There was the added escrow talk among that it was going up 2-3 mil .

All of that is all off the table now.

Another thing is if fans are not allowed in the buildings next year no one has to worry about a season that may not happen

- VANTEL

So no drop it stays flat is all.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
Why will he cost assets?
- Nighthawk


No one want's him, passed through waivers twice.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
So no drop it stays flat is all.
- Nighthawk


It stays the same as last year but teams were told at first that is is going up. That now is gone.

It doesn't matter teams will figure it out.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
Many many teams are going to be wheeling and dealing this off season. Gonna suck to be an UFA
- VANTEL

Yup UFA’s will feel the pinch the most. Also see more bridge deals happening. A Baertschi could agree to termination for the purpose of being UFA if he wants a change of scenery bad enough.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
No one want's him, passed through waivers twice.
- VanHockeyGuy


Hated that signing even before it happened.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
No one want's him, passed through waivers twice.
- VanHockeyGuy

Different ball of wax in the offseason when teams haven’t filled out rosters & cap space.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Yup UFA’s will feel the pinch the most. Also see more bridge deals happening. A Baertschi could agree to termination for the purpose of being UFA if he wants a change of scenery bad enough.
- Nighthawk



Why would he give up over 3 mil for nothing?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Different ball of wax in the offseason when teams haven’t filled out rosters & cap space.
- Nighthawk


and there's that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hated that signing even before it happened.
- VANTEL

At the time we had no prospects worth speaking of ready for the jump. Took time to dismantle an older team laden with anchor contracts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
It stays the same as last year but teams were told at first that is is going up. That now is gone.

It doesn't matter teams will figure it out.

- VANTEL

Yes they will & I’m with you every team will be compliant there is no doubting that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:19 PM ET
At the time we had no prospects worth speaking of ready for the jump. Took time to dismantle an older team laden with anchor contracts.
- Nighthawk


So it still was a terrible deal.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Why would he give up over 3 mil for nothing?
- VANTEL

I wouldn’t but if he wants an NHL job it is an option to sign for 1 year. Maybe a 2m gamble is better in his mind if he chooses so.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
I wouldn’t but if he wants an NHL job it is an option to sign for 1 year. Maybe a 2m gamble is better in his mind if he chooses so.
- Nighthawk



30 teams passed on him at half price. I think his NHL days are limited and it will be for a million or less.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
So it still was a terrible deal.
- VANTEL

Hindsight yes lol
Far down the list of many other cap challenges.
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