rmull905
Calgary Flames |
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Joined: 02.27.2007
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If the Devils make their unprotected first available or Ty Smith and the Flames have Hall all but inked, then yes, can see this making sense for both sides.
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I don't understand the draw for players wanting to return home if they can in free agency. When I was young, I couldn't get away from "home" fast enough. The longer I've been gone the more this holds true. Visiting is fun though. Maybe Hall has forgotten how poopty Calgary is. (Shot fired)
-leafsfann
You're not wrong. I know plenty of people in Calgary and every single one is only there cause they make more money there than they would elsewhere. Anyone who found a similar enough income somewhere else took it and left. Hall can make the same anywhere. |
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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I am Eklund, QC Joined: 01.03.2007
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Well if you felt that way then surely everyone else must - eichiefs9
poopty when he came back ? |
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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A draft day deal? So the Flames are going to trade Gaudreau to NJ for futures, and then just hope that a couple weeks later that they can sign Hall. Imagine if Hall leans towards Calgary but then at the last minute takes a $10M deal to play in Arizona or Florida or with an original 6 or whatever. So now the Flames have just returned to purgatory again...no longer good enough to compete after giving away Gaudreau for futures, but also not ready to truly rebuild with a handful of key 30-something guys on NTCs.
Might want to either rethink your timeline or the desired return for Gaudreau. |
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Hubee
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 02.06.2007
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You're not wrong. I know plenty of people in Calgary and every single one is only there cause they make more money there than they would elsewhere. Anyone who found a similar enough income somewhere else took it and left. Hall can make the same anywhere. - DarthProbert
That’s funny, I know lots of people in Calgary too. They are all from somewhere else and none of them have any plan on going back. If all players could choose where they got to play Florida and California teams would be on amazing win streaks. |
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leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 05.11.2014
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Well if you felt that way then surely everyone else must - eichiefs9
Most of the people I grew up with, too. If anyone was gone longer than a semester, they never went back. |
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I agree Calgary can't afford Hall. Making them acquiring Hall lol click bait. So of course you "happen" or make up another rumor about Johnny going to Devils the next day.
But just for poops I'll bite anyways.
Johnny is more skilled than Hall but Hall is a bit better against tough competition. Johnny gets eaten alive once he doesn't get favorable line match ups and lower quality of competition. So I think Calgary does trade away Johnny if the knew they could offset losing Johnny. That plus whatever they get from Jersey theoretically improves Calgary.
However. Johnny is exactly the type of player NJ does NOT need. He would improve their team. Johnny would improve most teams. Just not enough. Johnny isn't physically capable of carrying the team like Hall did that one year.
If Calgary did trade Johnny to NJ, or most teams, I would expect the return to be very underwhelming. The book is out on him. Not to mention I wonder how effective Johnny would be away from Monahan. Scoring centers are extremely rare and that is absolutely part of Johnnys success to date. |
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leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: 05.11.2014
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That’s funny, I know lots of people in Calgary too. They are all from somewhere else and none of them have any plan on going back. If all players could choose where they got to play Florida and California teams would be on amazing win streaks. - Hubee
My dig wasn't at Calgary specifically, that's just what it happened to be for me. The point was at putting "home" in the rear view after you've experienced life somewhere else. |
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That’s funny, I know lots of people in Calgary too. They are all from somewhere else and none of them have any plan on going back. If all players could choose where they got to play Florida and California teams would be on amazing win streaks.
-Hubee
I'm not from any of these cities, but if I were an FA(and the teams were relatively equally appealing to play for), I'd take Vancouver, Edmonton or Calgary just for the scenery/nature nearby. Having NHL money while being near Banff or Jasper and having months off every year? Yes please. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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I'm not from any of these cities, but if I were an FA(and the teams were relatively equally appealing to play for), I'd take Vancouver, Edmonton or Calgary just for the scenery/nature nearby. Having NHL money while being near Banff or Jasper and having months off every year? Yes please. - DarthProbert
If you have NHL money, you don't stay home during the months off and you're not going to Banff during the season.
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aries1976
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The Frustration that unites us all. , AB Joined: 02.26.2007
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My dig wasn't at Calgary specifically, that's just what it happened to be for me. The point was at putting "home" in the rear view after you've experienced life somewhere else. - leafsfann
I was from southern Ontario, lived their for 30 years, came out here to Calgary, I stayed...
Toronto is nice enough, but it's brutally busy, I like how wide open Calgary is, besides better water and air quality, and way more picturesque and much slower pace of life... easier to lay my roots here... |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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This is just silly, but I feel stupid for even falling on this clickbait. First how does Hall replacing JG improve Calgary in any meaningful way? Second, it would give the Devils 2 years of control of JG with the same type of Hall signing drama with JG - and everyone knows he wants to play in Philly. So Hard "NO" from all parties. - redmonsters
It would be a big yes from the Flames if all this could happen unless Gaudreau makes it clear to the front office that he wants to stay in Calgary long term.
Gaudreau is probably better than Hall. This talk about teams figuring him out is absurd. The decline in his numbers this year has more to do with Monahan being off most of the year than it does with teams changing how they play against him. He's still got a bunch more 90+ point seasons in him. However, Hall isn't much of a downgrade, they'll have a superstar signed for longer than two years, and they'll probably get at least 2 of the Devils firsts this year and a prospect. They'd be silly not to do that.
Hall wanting to come home may all be nonsense, but no other superstar will ever willingly sign with Calgary, so they need to make it happen if he wants to play there. |
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If you have NHL money, you don't stay home during the months off and you're not going to Banff during the season.
-Hunkulese
NHL teams do team trips into Banff during Alberta trips all the time. So pretty sure local players could pull it off. Plus they have airplane and helicopter money so they're not limited by driving times. |
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I agree Calgary can't afford Hall. Making them acquiring Hall lol click bait. So of course you "happen" or make up another rumor about Johnny going to Devils the next day.
But just for poops I'll bite anyways.
Johnny is more skilled than Hall but Hall is a bit better against tough competition. Johnny gets eaten alive once he doesn't get favorable line match ups and lower quality of competition. So I think Calgary does trade away Johnny if the knew they could offset losing Johnny. That plus whatever they get from Jersey theoretically improves Calgary.
However. Johnny is exactly the type of player NJ does NOT need. He would improve their team. Johnny would improve most teams. Just not enough. Johnny isn't physically capable of carrying the team like Hall did that one year.
If Calgary did trade Johnny to NJ, or most teams, I would expect the return to be very underwhelming. The book is out on him. Not to mention I wonder how effective Johnny would be away from Monahan. Scoring centers are extremely rare and that is absolutely part of Johnnys success to date. - Aerchon
So obviously the smart move is for just for New Jersey to resign Hall...
DOH! |
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Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA Joined: 11.17.2018
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NHL teams do team trips into Banff during Alberta trips all the time. So pretty sure local players could pull it off. Plus they have airplane and helicopter money so they're not limited by driving times. - DarthProbert
Sorry, but visiting NHL teams on a road trip to play Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver...do not make a side trip to Banff or Jasper. There is not a major air strip for a jet. So you are going to send your players in groups on helicopters and small Cessnas to go to Banff for the day. That's not something you are going to do with your "day off" before your next game. Even if you has a 2-day layover you are not taking your entire team to Banff. Have you been to Banff during the winter? There is some shopping on the main street, a few decent restaurants, and then basically skiing, an activity that is off-limits to an NHL organization. Now the Flames have taken a team trip out to Banff, but that's during training camp or preseason as a bonding experience. But once the busy NHL season starts you aren't taking sidetrips to Banff. Get your facts straight. |
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devils suck. he grew up a flyers fan. done deal!!!
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Sorry, but visiting NHL teams on a road trip to play Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver...do not make a side trip to Banff or Jasper. There is not a major air strip for a jet. So you are going to send your players in groups on helicopters and small Cessnas to go to Banff for the day. That's not something you are going to do with your "day off" before your next game. Even if you has a 2-day layover you are not taking your entire team to Banff. Have you been to Banff during the winter? There is some shopping on the main street, a few decent restaurants, and then basically skiing, an activity that is off-limits to an NHL organization. Now the Flames have taken a team trip out to Banff, but that's during training camp or preseason as a bonding experience. But once the busy NHL season starts you aren't taking sidetrips to Banff. Get your facts straight. - Kooleus
Ah, they do I lived there...you see NHL players in Banff all the time
https://www.nhl.com/pengu...away-to-banff/c-301160580
https://www.nhl.com/hurri...rd-from-banff/c-312650760
BANFF, Alberta - The Penguins arrived in Banff, Alberta in the late afternoon on Saturday and will spend a two days in the beautiful ski resort town. (late October, season in full swing)
"It was beautiful. The sun was setting on one side of the mountains and the moon was on the other side," Murray said. "It was really cool. We're really lucky we get to see places like this. Not everybody gets to see that on occasions. I feel really lucky. It was a really cool experience."
Canes were there for two days in December this season...just what I found on a 2 second google search "Mr. Facts" |
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For all those saying its impossible for the Flames to sign Hall they were already negotiating an extension deal with him by all accounts but the Devils took the Yotes offer. Flames said F this we will get him for free in the summer.
You can always make room for a good player
Hall+ multiple assets for Gaudreau improves the team but with 2 years left on Gaudreau I can see them trying to fit both for one season and see what happens.
I see the Flames moving to a cheaper D for next season with Vali coming in
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bruinzfan77
Boston Bruins |
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Location: MB Joined: 07.19.2012
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If I’m the Flames, I’d keep Gaudreau for another season and have a solid go of it. I think Gio’s contract is up in 2 years as well. Fill some holes in free agency and retool for next year. Can always move him at the Draft next year since he will still have one year left on his deal.
Taylor Hall can go pound sand somewhere else. Overpriced. Overhyped. Under nourished. What a waste. |
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Crushers68
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Hilton Head Island, SC Joined: 02.17.2009
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This crap ain’t happening |
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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This crap ain’t happening - Crushers68
I don't know exactly which crap you are talking about, but I heartily agree. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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It all sounds like a pipe dream for Ek and for the Debbie.
Saying that, any real trade would need more than just pics and futures.
At the very least, it would need to include a future top 6 forward.
Maybe Hichier or Hughes.
That would at least balance out the trade loss with adding Hall.
Or a 1st and Severson.
CGY fans may be loathe to trade Gaudreau any time soon, but another underwhelming playoff performance will mean CGY needs to change. This season, JH had a bad year, but it's not on him. Where was the rest of the top line and PP? Yes, he had an annoying habit of button-hooking when he entered the zone, which sometimes lead to goals against, but where was the defense on those? In front of him? He also needs to learn how to use a breakaway to his advantage. |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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All signs...
All in...
Okie dokie |
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OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.31.2015
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Well they don't seem to like winning much there in Jersey, so wee Johnnie might be just the thing to keep their fans happy. |
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