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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
Eklund: Source: Taylor Hall to Calgary Still More than Likely. (e4)
- Eklund


So to protect against expansion:

F Milan Lucic (no option - NMC)
F Taylor Hall
F Matthew Tkachuk
F Johnny Gaudreau
F Sean Monahan
F Elias Lindholm

then who? Dillon Dube, Mickael Backlund, or Sam Bennett?

D Gio
D Hanafin
D Andersson

Leaves Brodie and I think* Juuso Valimaki available because he has 2 years pro under his belt. Wonder how they'll handle the D situation - flames fans?
PKueber
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jun 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
So to protect against expansion:

F Milan Lucic (no option - NMC)
F Taylor Hall
F Matthew Tkachuk
F Johnny Gaudreau
F Sean Monahan
F Elias Lindholm

then who? Dillon Dube, Mickael Backlund, or Sam Bennett?

D Gio
D Hanafin
D Andersson

Leaves Brodie and I think* Juuso Valimaki available because he has 2 years pro under his belt. Wonder how they'll handle the D situation - flames fans?

- AlfieisKing


Vaalimaaki exempt, did not play a single game this year (ACL injury), therefor does not need to be protected for the expansion draft.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
So to protect against expansion:

F Milan Lucic (no option - NMC)
F Taylor Hall
F Matthew Tkachuk
F Johnny Gaudreau
F Sean Monahan
F Elias Lindholm

then who? Dillon Dube, Mickael Backlund, or Sam Bennett?

D Gio
D Hanafin
D Andersson

Leaves Brodie and I think* Juuso Valimaki available because he has 2 years pro under his belt. Wonder how they'll handle the D situation - flames fans?

- AlfieisKing


I’m of the belief that Calgary will end up having to move an asset to decide who Seattle gets off our roster.

If not Brodie gets protected before hanifin as well, and lucic will likely waive his nmc allowing us to protect both backlund and dube.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
Vaalimaaki exempt, did not play a single game this year (ACL injury), therefor does not need to be protected for the expansion draft.
- PKueber

ohh I looked at his 18-19 #'s. Yea that's right.

So I'm guessing Travis Hamonic is going right?
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
Rule of thumb, if Eklund says its likely to happen, then its not even close to happening.

Hall may want to come here, but he just doesn't fit into our lineup well, nor will Treliving pay him what he appears to want ($10M+ per for 6-7 years), nor should he. That contract would be horrible on the backstretch and average at best on the front stretch.

Additionally, Calgary is very tight cap wise when considering all of the Dmen they will need to replace (Brodie, Hamonic, Gustaffson, Forbert, Stone). Of that group, I only realistically see Brodie being resigned (@ $4.5M-$5.0M per season) and possibly one of either Forbert or Stone for 6th/7th dman depth. Getting their Defence signed alone will eat up their available cap space. They would have to trade Gaudreau (who is a better, younger player) and it still wouldn't create enough cap space for an older, inferior Hall.

All things considered, it just doesn't make sense for Calgary to go this route, nor does it appear to be feasible even if they were considering doing it.

- PKueber


I see where you’re coming from but it’s all about getting an asset for a player set to be a ufa in 2 years and obtaining an immediate replacement
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jun 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
Any team that gives up much for JG will regret it. The second this contract is up he is returning to Philadelphia....
- redmonsters

Good chance he goes to Philadelphia but he has 2 years left at 6.75mm before he is a UFA. The Devils got a top 3 protected 1st, a 3rd, Bahl, Merkley & Schnarr for 2 months and 1 playoff of Hall. Stands to reason the Flames should expect more than that if they move JG !
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 3:22 PM ET
Good chance he goes to Philadelphia but he has 2 years left at 6.75mm before he is a UFA. The Devils got a top 3 protected 1st, a 3rd, Bahl, Merkley & Schnarr for 2 months and 1 playoff of Hall. Stands to reason the Flames should expect more than that if they move JG !
- DEDDIE


In comparison to past trade of players involving JG’s skill my asking price would be a roster player, a prospect, 2 firsts and a conditional 2nd or 3rd.
PKueber
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jun 7 @ 4:47 PM ET
I see where you’re coming from but it’s all about getting an asset for a player set to be a ufa in 2 years and obtaining an immediate replacement
- RedC21


Clearly Treliving is aware of Johnny’s intentions to re-sign or not and will undoubtably move him if JG intends to sign elsewhere, that goes without saying. Bringing in Hall for an outgoing JG is not the solution tho for the various reasons noted.
PKueber
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada
Joined: 09.11.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
ohh I looked at his 18-19 #'s. Yea that's right.

So I'm guessing Travis Hamonic is going right?

- AlfieisKing


Yes, it was fairly clear Hamonic would not re-sign here when his agent stated at the start of the season that Travis would not, under any circumstances, be open to negotiating a new deal during the regular season. The writing has been on the wall for awhile...sounds like from multiples sources close to him he wants to be back home (Manitoba) where his family is. I'd expect him to sign with the Jets in the off-season, especially given how depleted the Jets are at RD after losing both Trouba and Big Buff.

Calgary's decision on who to protect at D for the expansion draft will come down to Gio, Hanifin, Andersson and Brodie...to me the only lock of the bunch is Andersson. Gio I think will depend on where his level of play is at come expansion draft, he'll be 37 or 38 around that time so no guarantees he gets protected over a younger DMan. Kylington is another young up and coming Dman that they will not be able to protect. They will be losing a solid player either way, but thankfully only one, as they'll have a number of good players they won't be able to protect.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
I noticed that JG's points pace was down a bit this year compared to the last few. This would have been the first time since 14-15 he would have been on pace for less than 70 points if he played 82 games (he was on pace for about 68).

Is there an obvious reason for that?
bruinzfan77
Boston Bruins
Location: MB
Joined: 07.19.2012

Jun 7 @ 6:47 PM ET
Brodie is not worth squat. Numbers are poope away from Giordano. Not worth it at all.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jun 7 @ 7:15 PM ET
I noticed that JG's points pace was down a bit this year compared to the last few. This would have been the first time since 14-15 he would have been on pace for less than 70 points if he played 82 games (he was on pace for about 68).

Is there an obvious reason for that?

- PT21


IMO the league has figured him out a bit and refuses to give him the offensive blueline anymore limiting his 5 on 5 effectiveness. With time and space he is scary and I think he is becoming a PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist. He is still an excellent player but I don't see him as a 90-100 point guy anymore.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 7 @ 7:20 PM ET
What a player is worth is heavily dependent upon the market. A player who you or I think is only worth around $5M could easily get more depending on the market. That said, we have no clue what this next FA market will look like because of covid.
- Rinosaur


The market for 30 year old pretty good offensive defencemen with defensive deficiencies has been pretty much non-existent for a while now.

Who's giving him 6 million a season? There's not a single team who that makes sense for except maybe the Oilers of they can figure out how to dump Russel and need to replace his bad contract with a worse one.

There wasn't a lineup for Gardiner last year and there won't be one for Brodie this year.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 7 @ 7:36 PM ET
IMO the league has figured him out a bit and refuses to give him the offensive blueline anymore limiting his 5 on 5 effectiveness. With time and space he is scary and I think he is becoming a PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist. He is still an excellent player but I don't see him as a 90-100 point guy anymore.
- DEDDIE



Huh! Something so fundamental as that?! I was expecting minor injuries, line-mates, snake-bitten etc etc.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jun 7 @ 7:58 PM ET
Nice, so that means the Habs have a chance



bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jun 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
LET HIM GO...

BAD KNEES . His gift is his speed....if that knee goes ??

BAD IN LOCKER ROOM .

less than a point a game player... had really one good season.

Is a top 10 Lw though..

will demand 6-7 years and is 20-30 .
$8-$10Mill. thats a lot for bad knees and 30...

- thechezman


Bad in locker room?

Like you’d know.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jun 7 @ 9:00 PM ET
So to protect against expansion:

F Milan Lucic (no option - NMC)
F Taylor Hall
F Matthew Tkachuk
F Johnny Gaudreau
F Sean Monahan
F Elias Lindholm

then who? Dillon Dube, Mickael Backlund, or Sam Bennett?

D Gio
D Hanafin
D Andersson

Leaves Brodie and I think* Juuso Valimaki available because he has 2 years pro under his belt. Wonder how they'll handle the D situation - flames fans?

- AlfieisKing



The flyers will take gaudreau off your hands.

He’ll be a flyer one way or another in 2 more seasons...he grew up a massive fan...even said so a couple of years ago.

Definitely want to johnny drink from the cup with claude and coutts and provie and hartsey...

CAN’T WAIT!!!
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 7 @ 9:02 PM ET
So to protect against expansion:

F Milan Lucic (no option - NMC)
F Taylor Hall
F Matthew Tkachuk
F Johnny Gaudreau
F Sean Monahan
F Elias Lindholm

then who? Dillon Dube, Mickael Backlund, or Sam Bennett?

D Gio
D Hanafin
D Andersson

Leaves Brodie and I think* Juuso Valimaki available because he has 2 years pro under his belt. Wonder how they'll handle the D situation - flames fans?

- AlfieisKing



You really want to use a protection slot on a 37-year old defenseman?
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Jun 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
Bad in locker room?

Like you’d know.

- bruceflyers


He's a well known diva and bum hole. Ever since Junior his poor attitude has been talked about. It's common knowledge in Canada, bro.
Vanillaface
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

Jun 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
Gaudreau for OEL and Garland
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Jun 7 @ 9:39 PM ET
Gaudreau did talk about Philly. If that's his desire I would try and make it happen. Flyers have some good young D they might be willing to move and it appears that is exactly what Calgary will be needing. Then sign Hall. I was reading a blog by James Tanner who wrote Hall should be in the conversation for MVP....
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jun 7 @ 10:03 PM ET
Yes, it was fairly clear Hamonic would not re-sign here when his agent stated at the start of the season that Travis would not, under any circumstances, be open to negotiating a new deal during the regular season. The writing has been on the wall for awhile...sounds like from multiples sources close to him he wants to be back home (Manitoba) where his family is. I'd expect him to sign with the Jets in the off-season, especially given how depleted the Jets are at RD after losing both Trouba and Big Buff.

Calgary's decision on who to protect at D for the expansion draft will come down to Gio, Hanifin, Andersson and Brodie...to me the only lock of the bunch is Andersson. Gio I think will depend on where his level of play is at come expansion draft, he'll be 37 or 38 around that time so no guarantees he gets protected over a younger DMan. Kylington is another young up and coming Dman that they will not be able to protect. They will be losing a solid player either way, but thankfully only one, as they'll have a number of good players they won't be able to protect.

- PKueber


Players choose to live in Winnipeg? I heard the wifi is awful.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 7 @ 11:47 PM ET
IMO the league has figured him out a bit and refuses to give him the offensive blueline anymore limiting his 5 on 5 effectiveness. With time and space he is scary and I think he is becoming a PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist. He is still an excellent player but I don't see him as a 90-100 point guy anymore.
- DEDDIE


He had 99 last season, guys have off years...most of the team has and his center has played poorly. Not to mention he is back to PPG since the all star break.

Pretty silly to right him off because of one down year
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jun 7 @ 11:52 PM ET
For all those talking they won't do it because of the cap they already had an extension ready for him and a trade close to done early this year...they thought it was done by all accounts but the Yotes increased their offer and the Devils went with them.

Also, Lucic is waiving for the expansion draft FFS, its the worst kept secret in Calgary
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 7 @ 11:57 PM ET
Gaudreau did talk about Philly. If that's his desire I would try and make it happen. Flyers have some good young D they might be willing to move and it appears that is exactly what Calgary will be needing. Then sign Hall. I was reading a blog by James Tanner who wrote Hall should be in the conversation for MVP....
- Hardbalz

They do have a glut of young defensemen and several in the system. Chances are Seattle will be snagging one of the more ready guys, tho
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