That cap hit for 3 more years is actually a decent one for a 30 goal scorer. Have we not learnt our lessons on trading pure goal scorers like Hull & St Louis in their prime?
- Kevin R

I question would monahan still be a 30 goal scorer if not for having gaudreau on his wing

In addition, he has 3 more years at a decent cap hit. Gaudreau will get back a bigger return & I really do have doubts we can get him re-signed. We move Gaudreau for a big package of that #7 pick & probably next years first & a few highend young players, I know I'll get roasted, but that gives us the $$$ to bring in Hall for free. & we replace our top 6 LW.
- Kevin R

Im 100% on board with that type of move.

In addition, he has 3 more years at a decent cap hit. Gaudreau will get back a bigger return & I really do have doubts we can get him re-signed. We move Gaudreau for a big package of that #7 pick & probably next years first & a few highend young players, I know I'll get roasted, but that gives us the $$$ to bring in Hall for free. & we replace our top 6 LW.
- Kevin R

I think if we can get a top 10 pick for monahan that’s value as he is likely a 2nd line Center on most teams to begin with.

After a down year for gaudreau though there is no way we get fair value for him. What JG can bring at the cap hit he does makes him more valuable than some of the top paid players in the league. I would rather keep him at 6.75 for two more years than sign hall to 9-10 for 7. Especially considering how bad the back end of hall’s next contract will look. I would target Lehner over him

I would consider trading JG after next year once his value rebounds and we’re more sure that he won’t resign but as of right now teams will be expecting a discount given the season he just had so no.

We trade him because we’re not satisfied with just making the playoffs, and at least I don’t think he’s the difference between us being a contending team or not.

Personally I’ve been a monahan fan since he was a rookie and I own his jersey as well but looking around the league he is in the bottom 10 of 1st line C’s which isn’t good enough to win a cup.

In my opinion it seems as though somewhere across the last 3 or 4 seasons he stopped developing and grew content with being gaudreau’s passenger.

We would even be better off to use the money we do save on his contract to sign lehner or hall.
- RedC21

For the record I like Mony and JG too. I have never suggested we give them away for nothing. Its all about asset management and trying to better balance our lineup from my perspective. We also need to acquire some high end young players who can be the next ones in Calgary and the 7 hole in this draft would give us a legit shot at acquiring a future STAR.

I think if we can get a top 10 pick for monahan that’s value as he is likely a 2nd line Center on most teams to begin with.

After a down year for gaudreau though there is no way we get fair value for him. What JG can bring at the cap hit he does makes him more valuable than some of the top paid players in the league. I would rather keep him at 6.75 for two more years than sign hall to 9-10 for 7. Especially considering how bad the back end of hall’s next contract will look. I would target Lehner over him

I would consider trading JG after next year once his value rebounds and we’re more sure that he won’t resign but as of right now teams will be expecting a discount given the season he just had so no.
- RedC21

I dont think Hall or any other UFA are getting anywhere near 9-10 post Covid 19.

I dont think Hall or any other UFA are getting anywhere near 9-10 post Covid 19.
- DEDDIE

True, if the cap doesn’t go up it will be interesting to see how that affects FA’s. Teams like buffalo, jersey, and Columbus will have the cap space to hand out those contracts but they also aren’t exactly desirable locations

I think if we can get a top 10 pick for monahan that’s value as he is likely a 2nd line Center on most teams to begin with.

After a down year for gaudreau though there is no way we get fair value for him. What JG can bring at the cap hit he does makes him more valuable than some of the top paid players in the league. I would rather keep him at 6.75 for two more years than sign hall to 9-10 for 7. Especially considering how bad the back end of hall’s next contract will look. I would target Lehner over him

I would consider trading JG after next year once his value rebounds and we’re more sure that he won’t resign but as of right now teams will be expecting a discount given the season he just had so no.
- RedC21

Well yes & no. Gaudreau had an off year but his talented is undeniable throughout the league. The beauty of Buffalo as a trade partner is the fans & ownership are so thirsty for success & sick & tired of top 10 picks they want to find Eichel their franchise player, a soul mate. Both are Americans, both went to BCollege I would think they would overpay JG. Gaudreau has 2 years left at a decent salary which will give Eichel & Gaudreau to mesh & Pegula to work on Johnny to signing a big extension. I would love to see how Monahan & Hall would be playing together. Keep Lindholm as our #1 C with Tkachuk. RW needs to addressed but we just got some pretty valuable young pieces from the Gaudreau deal. Backlund is pushed down to 3rd line C where he belongs at this stage of his career. Lindholm/Monahan/Backlund down the middle is not too shabby.

I know there are a lot of guys who love JG and he is an amazing talent. But for me he is like a Phil Kessel. Great secondary piece. But he is not the guy to lead the charge.

I would trade him for the right return. It would have to be high.

Well yes & no. Gaudreau had an off year but his talented is undeniable throughout the league. The beauty of Buffalo as a trade partner is the fans & ownership are so thirsty for success & sick & tired of top 10 picks they want to find Eichel their franchise player, a soul mate. Both are Americans, both went to BCollege I would think they would overpay JG. Gaudreau has 2 years left at a decent salary which will give Eichel & Gaudreau to mesh & Pegula to work on Johnny to signing a big extension. I would love to see how Monahan & Hall would be playing together. Keep Lindholm as our #1 C with Tkachuk. RW needs to addressed but we just got some pretty valuable young pieces from the Gaudreau deal. Backlund is pushed down to 3rd line C where he belongs at this stage of his career. Lindholm/Monahan/Backlund down the middle is not too shabby.
- Kevin R

I can see where your coming from on why buffalo or teams in similar situations would be willing to pay the king’s ransom for gaudreau.

It’s hard to say what the return would look like but I would think it starts with olofsson, their 2020 first, 2021 first and Casey middlestadt. I think cozens will be untouchable for them given their need at Center.

My concerns with hall is that due to his injury history he will decline earlier than expected, as well have his off-ice issues around (but at the same time it’s not like JG’s been rumoured to be a model citizen either)

I just think that if we get extra cash lehner would be the better target. Given the inconsistency of our tandems since kipper left, lehner could add some real stability back there to push us back into contention.

I can see where your coming from on why buffalo or teams in similar situations would be willing to pay the king’s ransom for gaudreau.

It’s hard to say what the return would look like but I would think it starts with olofsson, their 2020 first, 2021 first and Casey middlestadt. I think cozens will be untouchable for them given their need at Center.

My concerns with hall is that due to his injury history he will decline earlier than expected, as well have his off-ice issues around (but at the same time it’s not like JG’s been rumoured to be a model citizen either)

I just think that if we get extra cash lehner would be the better target. Given the inconsistency of our tandems since kipper left, lehner could add some real stability back there to push us back into contention.
- RedC21

I think Tre could hold out for Cozen, 2020 1st, 2021 lottery protected 1st & call it a day. Maybe we can flick Jankowski back in that deal. Either way I can see both Eichel's & Pegula hard ons at that thought of Gaudreau playinghg wing with Eichel. That just upped Buffalos top line bigtime.
Hall is a very very good player & I have no problem giving him a 7 year deal knowing you are probably going to get maybe 4 good years out of that contract. Now the question is, does Tre have the cajone's to trade Johnny.

I think Tre could hold out for Cozen, 2020 1st, 2021 lottery protected 1st & call it a day. Maybe we can flick Jankowski back in that deal. Either way I can see both Eichel's & Pegula hard ons at that thought of Gaudreau playinghg wing with Eichel. That just upped Buffalos top line bigtime.
Hall is a very very good player & I have no problem giving him a 7 year deal knowing you are probably going to get maybe 4 good years out of that contract. Now the question is, does Tre have the cajone's to trade Johnny.
- Kevin R

If our scouts are high on Cozens I would make that trade in a heartbeat but i'm not sure Sabre fans would. If you read their page they seem hell bent on getting a 2C above all and they have little appetite for trading Cozens and 1st round picks (not sure how they plan to acquire a 2C but that's another story).
If we trade JG with 2 years of control this is the kind of package we must get back.

I think Tre could hold out for Cozen, 2020 1st, 2021 lottery protected 1st & call it a day. Maybe we can flick Jankowski back in that deal. Either way I can see both Eichel's & Pegula hard ons at that thought of Gaudreau playinghg wing with Eichel. That just upped Buffalos top line bigtime.
Hall is a very very good player & I have no problem giving him a 7 year deal knowing you are probably going to get maybe 4 good years out of that contract. Now the question is, does Tre have the cajone's to trade Johnny.
- Kevin R

I would be fine with something like this. JG would do well in Buff.

If our scouts are high on Cozens I would make that trade in a heartbeat but i'm not sure Sabre fans would. If you read their page they seem hell bent on getting a 2C above all and they have little appetite for trading Cozens and 1st round picks (not sure how they plan to acquire a 2C but that's another story).
If we trade JG with 2 years of control this is the kind of package we must get back.
- DEDDIE

I could see buffalo willing to move their 1sts but I don’t think cozens is on the table.

As I said in a previous comment I think the likelier return for gaudreau is something along the lines of olofsson, middlestadt, 2020 1st, 2021 1st and perhaps a 3rd or second.

If we do move JG and intend to replace him with hall I would still look at moving monahan. Let’s say the jets offer us their 1st and 2nd for him and jankowski that wouldn’t be a bad deal either. Just so we can open up cap space to sign lehner who I think should be the bigger priority