So, interesting question, with a lot of grey areas.

First, players do make a bit of money for every round they advance. Back in the day, this used to be a huge incentive, because up until the late 1960s, most of the guys would have summer jobs.

https://thehockeywriters....yer-playoff-compensation/

But here's where it gets a little weirder:

Thanks to the CBA, players are not guaranteed their full salaries. That's the escrow.

So if I'm making 10 million a year, but the NHL only makes 95% of the revenues it projected when setting the salary cap, I only get paid $9.5 million.

So the players are already going to take a huge hit on their salaries this year, as they lost roughly 12.5% of the regular season revenues from tix, TV, beer and hot dogs.

So there is a financial incentive for them to participate in the playoffs, to try to get more of their 2019-20 salaries.

But I've yet to see any kind of guess as to how much that will be. I'm guessing it won't be that significant.
- Atomic Wedgie

Any idea how it works for guys like Matthews/Tavares/marner that get like 95% of the salary in signing bonus? How do they forgo that? Do they literally have to pay back money?

Any idea how it works for guys like Matthews/Tavares/marner that get like 95% of the salary in signing bonus? How do they forgo that? Do they literally have to pay back money?
- bryant

Any and all salary is subject to escrow.

So yes, this year, players will probably have to pay back some of their salary to their team.

For now.

Just wait until the defence starts picking it apart.

Cops don't get charged with murder in the US.

It's going to be hard to prove intent.

Conviction of manslaughter is better than acquittal of murder.

I take no pleasure in saying this.

In the words of Bruce Hornsby and the Range, "It's just the way it is."
- Atomic Wedgie

It’s not entirely clear how Canadian law translates but the intent stuff is not incredibly onerous. In Canada, 2nd degree is a step up from criminal negligence cause death where you know there is some degree of danger but proceed anyway. In 2nd degree murder you proceed with some intent to cause harm, not necessarily to cause death but to cause harm.

First degree type intent not necessarily at play here. His also won’t be a trial where a prosecutor backs off easily. This guy is putting his political career on the line.

Proceeding with a higher charge doesn’t preclude the jury coming back with a lesser verdict. He doesn’t have to back off to manslaughter because he’s worried about getting nothing.

Any idea how it works for guys like Matthews/Tavares/marner that get like 95% of the salary in signing bonus? How do they forgo that? Do they literally have to pay back money?
- bryant

But here's something that I don't know the answer to:

Some players signed "lockout-proof" contracts.

But if there are no revenues at all, wouldn't they get 100% of their salary clawed back in escrow?

But here's something that I don't know the answer to:

Some players signed "lockout-proof" contracts.

But if there are no revenues at all, wouldn't they get 100% of their salary clawed back in escrow?
- Atomic Wedgie

Bonuses no part of escrow it seems

Floyd also had drugs in his system, was carrying what looked like drugs and had a prior record. Cop will also probably try to blame the police training program and say he was trained to do what he did. Whether it works or not is up to the jury but the defense has tactics they can use. He could also try to cut a deal for a lesser charge and less time.
- JohnFergusonJr

So what that he had drugs in his system. They can blame all they want. Those videos will convict. This is the Attorney General taking personal charge of this case. He didn’t do that so that he could commit political suicide.

So Protesting works

Charges against Chauvin upgraded to 2nd degree murder and others being charged with aiding and abetting murder.

Chauvin looking at max of 40 years, others potentially the same
- Canada Cup

Upgrading the charges might help the cop. It’s harder to prove 2nd degree murder.

So what that he had drugs in his system. They can blame all they want. Those videos will convict. This is the Attorney General taking personal charge of this case. He didn’t do that so that he could commit political suicide.
- Canada Cup

unless his Antifa support wants him to further escalate things

unless his Antifa support wants him to further escalate things
- drexel

^... Well, at least we made lunch time before the third village idiot showed up with his attempt to feed today's version of hockey forum political riot.

Bonuses no part of escrow it seems
- MaximusAurelius

Incorrect.

From a Spector blog:

*UPDATE** “Peter F.” brought to my attention article 50.11 (sub-paras e and f) of the NHL CBA indicates players actually do pay escrow on bonuses as well as their base salaries. I’ve confirmed this with TSN sports legal analyst Eric Macramalla.

So what that he had drugs in his system. They can blame all they want. Those videos will convict. This is the Attorney General taking personal charge of this case. He didn’t do that so that he could commit political suicide.
- Canada Cup

Drugs in his system will probably be relevant (note: I'm not a lawyer) as it a) can have an affect on his heart and respiratory system; and b) the cops' lawyers will point to it and say the victim was acting erratically/violently.

A jury acquitted the cops in the Rodney King case.

Assume the worst, and then try to work your way up from there.

Sigh.

Upgrading the charges might help the cop. It’s harder to prove 2nd degree murder.
- shack67

Yup. It sounds good in theory now, but does make it harder to convict.

unless his Antifa support wants him to further escalate things
- drexel

antifa leaving bricks around ... smdh

https://twitter.com/JaneL...tatus/1268254025109196800

So what that he had drugs in his system. They can blame all they want. Those videos will convict. This is the Attorney General taking personal charge of this case. He didn’t do that so that he could commit political suicide.
- Canada Cup

Meth and fentanyl aren't "so what" type of drugs. That doesn't justify the cop killing him but it's a defense tactic for sure.

antifa leaving bricks around ... smdh

https://twitter.com/JaneL...tatus/1268254025109196800
- senstroll

Meth and fentanyl aren't "so what" type of drugs. That doesn't justify the cop killing him but it's a defense tactic for sure.
- JohnFergusonJr

Did they affect his behaviour while he was lying there handcuffed being choked to death for 9 minutes? You’d have to be a hell of a lawyer and both Khardashian and Johnny Cochran are dead and Dershowitz is brain dead. Good luck

Drugs in his system will probably be relevant (note: I'm not a lawyer) as it a) can have an affect on his heart and respiratory system; and b) the cops' lawyers will point to it and say the victim was acting erratically/violently.

A jury acquitted the cops in the Rodney King case.

Assume the worst, and then try to work your way up from there.

Sigh.
- Atomic Wedgie

Wait, because he had drugs in his system he died suddenly after being choked to death in 9 minutes?

They acquired Rodney King after moving the case to Simi Valley, very conservative area

Did they affect his behaviour while he was lying there handcuffed being choked to death for 9 minutes? You’d have to be a hell of a lawyer and both Khardashian and Johnny Cochran are dead and Dershowitz is brain dead. Good luck
- Canada Cup

Yes, meth and fentanyl affect peoples behavior and cardiovascular system.

This does not justify the cop killing him but it does create a set of circumstances that the defense is going to use as mitigating factors.

antifa leaving bricks around ... smdh

https://twitter.com/JaneL...tatus/1268254025109196800
- senstroll

(frank)ing Yahoo’s are everywhere. Sad.

- JohnFergusonJr

case closed

(frank)ing Yahoo’s are everywhere. Sad.
- DrunkenCanuck

lots in the White House

case closed
- senstroll

Escape your echo chamber.

Yes, meth and fentanyl affect peoples behavior and cardiovascular system.

This does not justify the cop killing him but it does create a set of circumstances that the defense is going to use as mitigating factors.
- JohnFergusonJr

So because of the drugs his system was compromised and he was more susceptible to the application of force to his neck by my client which was necessary to apprehend this drug crazed criminal but which unfortunately killed him because of his compromised cardiovascular system. Of course it is true that this application of force did take 9 minutes during which time the deceased repeatedly begged for his life while the officers prepared and consumed a healthy light lunch.

Again, a good lawyer will be very helpful.

So because of the drugs his system was compromised and he was more susceptible to the application of force to his neck by my client which was necessary to apprehend this drug crazed criminal but which unfortunately killed him because of his compromised cardiovascular system. Of course it is true that this application of force did take 9 minutes during which time the deceased repeatedly begged for his life while the officers prepared and consumed a healthy light lunch.

Again, a good lawyer will be very helpful.
- Canada Cup

You don't have a clue how defense attorneys work do you? Maybe a Vox or Salon opinion article will explain it to you.