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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
I do think that would be a good series, the Leafs speed and skill against against a tough physical team like Columbus . I wonder are players allowed to decline participating in the playoffs if they don't feel its safe?
- PatC80

Are the players being compensated at all? I assume they missed some sort of pay from the months of March and April. If so what would that mean for the teams that were ‘eliminated’? Correct me if I’m wrong, but they usually don’t pay the players for the playoffs anyways, so is that money just gone?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
We need hockey back. Holy hell
- RickJames77



I miss the days when my biggest beef was Martin Mirincin playing
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:22 PM ET
The timing of this post was Aces (see above)!
- mjones242


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
see you (hockey) in 2021
- dmnted

Dangit.I was hoping you'd visit me in 2021
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
Are the players being compensated at all? I assume they missed some sort of pay from the months of March and April. If so what would that mean for the teams that were ‘eliminated’? Correct me if I’m wrong, but they usually don’t pay the players for the playoffs anyways, so is that money just gone?
- RickJames77

I think you're right they don't get paid for playoffs. I'm not sure if they got their March or April pay though.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
Are the players being compensated at all? I assume they missed some sort of pay from the months of March and April. If so what would that mean for the teams that were ‘eliminated’? Correct me if I’m wrong, but they usually don’t pay the players for the playoffs anyways, so is that money just gone?
- RickJames77


It’s not normal CBA rules. They had to negotiate some new arrangements but whether it is net new money or just that they don’t lose as much as they would have is unclear. It’s also unclear if and how non-playoff players factor in.

Maybe it’s clear to others but I haven’t heard anything.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:33 PM ET


Maybe we have different standards as to what makes someone a legit journalist. I’ve seen reference to this guy a few times but if this is representative of what his work, it certainly doesn’t cut it for me.

- Canada Cup


Says the guy citing Vox and Salon.

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 3 @ 1:35 PM ET
Says the guy citing Vox and Salon.


- JohnFergusonJr


^ not even lunch time on the west coast and we now have our second village idiot laying down his attempt to start today's hockey forum riot.

(frank) off.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:39 PM ET
^ not even lunch time on the west coast and we now have our second village idiot laying down his attempt to start today's hockey forum riot.

(frank) off.

- joel878



It’s going to get worse when they charge those other cops in a little while
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 3 @ 1:42 PM ET
#CC4Ref

#permabanJFJ

#MaxHypocrite
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:43 PM ET
It’s going to get worse when they charge those other cops in a little while
- Canada Cup


But Cuomo on CNN telling people they don't have to protest peacefully, nah, that won't make anything worse.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 3 @ 1:45 PM ET
A man.

vote for her
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 3 @ 1:46 PM ET
A man.

vote for her

- zazzle


I read this as:



a man, vote for her!

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:47 PM ET
No, just cancel the season and most on here will disappear into summer plans
- Fakepartofme

Who the frank has summer plans?

My summer plans are to hang out at Hockeybuzz and rehash bringing back Wendel a second time (nobody debates whether or not his 3rd stint was a good thing; it was not).
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:47 PM ET
But Cuomo on CNN telling people they don't have to protest peacefully, nah, that won't make anything worse.
- JohnFergusonJr


Worse in here when they charge those cops
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
I think you're right they don't get paid for playoffs. I'm not sure if they got their March or April pay though.
- PatC80

I think the players got most of the $$$ might of misses 1 or 2 pay checks.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
Who the frank has summer plans?

My summer plans are to hang out at Hockeybuzz and rehash bringing back Wendel a second time (nobody debates whether or not his 3rd stint was a good thing; it was not).

- Atomic Wedgie


I’m going to see my kid for the first time since Christmas tomorrow. That’s fun
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
Worse in here when they charge those cops
- Canada Cup


Nope. Nobody thinks those cops are innocent. There might be mitigating factors in how their trial goes but everybody knows those cops didn't do their job that day.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:49 PM ET
Nope. Nobody thinks those cops are innocent. There might be mitigating factors in how their trial goes but everybody knows those cops didn't do their job that day.
- JohnFergusonJr


Have you met Komi?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 3 @ 1:50 PM ET
Who the frank has summer plans?

My summer plans are to hang out at Hockeybuzz and rehash bringing back Wendel a second time (nobody debates whether or not his 3rd stint was a good thing; it was not).

- Atomic Wedgie


My summer plans:

grow tomatoes
figure out what those tiny ass worms are that are making one of my shrubs look like cheesecloth
drink about a million beers in the sun
lots of bbq
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:52 PM ET
Have you met Komi?
- Canada Cup


I haven't seen him say they're innocent and if he does he's wrong.

Just like anybody defending rioters and violence is wrong.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:53 PM ET
Are the players being compensated at all? I assume they missed some sort of pay from the months of March and April. If so what would that mean for the teams that were ‘eliminated’? Correct me if I’m wrong, but they usually don’t pay the players for the playoffs anyways, so is that money just gone?
- RickJames77

So, interesting question, with a lot of grey areas.

First, players do make a bit of money for every round they advance. Back in the day, this used to be a huge incentive, because up until the late 1960s, most of the guys would have summer jobs.

https://thehockeywriters....yer-playoff-compensation/

But here's where it gets a little weirder:

Thanks to the CBA, players are not guaranteed their full salaries. That's the escrow.

So if I'm making 10 million a year, but the NHL only makes 95% of the revenues it projected when setting the salary cap, I only get paid $9.5 million.

So the players are already going to take a huge hit on their salaries this year, as they lost roughly 12.5% of the regular season revenues from tix, TV, beer and hot dogs.

So there is a financial incentive for them to participate in the playoffs, to try to get more of their 2019-20 salaries.

But I've yet to see any kind of guess as to how much that will be. I'm guessing it won't be that significant.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:54 PM ET
I haven't seen him say they're innocent and if he does he's wrong.

Just like anybody defending rioters and violence is wrong.

- JohnFergusonJr


Murder worse than looting but yes, both are bad.

Did you read that part of the poll where it says that people think Trump is doing a bad job yet?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:55 PM ET
So, interesting question, with a lot of grey areas.

First, players do make a bit of money for every round they advance. Back in the day, this used to be a huge incentive, because up until the late 1960s, most of the guys would have summer jobs.

https://thehockeywriters....yer-playoff-compensation/

But here's where it gets a little weirder:

Thanks to the CBA, players are not guaranteed their full salaries. That's the escrow.

So if I'm making 10 million a year, but the NHL only makes 95% of the revenues it projected when setting the salary cap, I only get paid $9.5 million.

So the players are already going to take a huge hit on their salaries this year, as they lost roughly 12.5% of the regular season revenues from tix, TV, beer and hot dogs.

So there is a financial incentive for them to participate in the playoffs, to try to get more of their 2019-20 salaries.

But I've yet to see any kind of guess as to how much that will be. I'm guessing it won't be that significant.

- Atomic Wedgie


They have negotiated new arrangements for these playoffs though. I assume
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:57 PM ET
Murder worse than looting but yes, both are bad.

Did you read that part of the poll where it says that people think Trump is doing a bad job yet?

- Canada Cup


Between 11-13 deaths so far caused by riots. Not to mention the firefighters assaulted, journalists assaulted, buildings set on fire; it's been a lot more than just looting.

Clearly you ignored my reply, go back and find it if you're so curious.
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