Weird thing is, I'm a left shot who prefers the right side.

But truth be told, a lot of that is I have a much stronger backwards left cross-over, so I'm better at forcing guys to the outside if I'm playing the right side.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm a righty who prefers the left. Whether it's on forward or D. I find it easier to attack and also defend.

Liljegren was easily the Marlies best the past two years. Give it time and he'll be for sure a good Leaf.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Yes

Marincin looks good compared to Lily.

I’ll show myself out.
- Garnie

Eww. That's a garbage take.

As I see it at least.

But again you avoid the fact that the longer there is violence, the less people will disagree with him. Unless of course he doesn't show force which I'm sure you'd criticize him for that too because that's the MO.



I'm sure they do in some respects but not all. That won't stay that way if the violence continues which was my original point. People might be pissed off today but the election isn't tomorrow.
- JohnFergusonJr

You’re coming closer but the question isn’t about do you agree in some respects. The question is what do you think of the job he’s doing and the answer is that they think he’s doing a bad job.

And actually the longer this goes, the worse his numbers are getting. You and your YouTube buddy are missing the point by focusing only on the use of force. From what I’ve seen, the violence seems to be trending down.

The key point from these polls and maybe the most heartening thing right now is that Americans support the protesters and trust Biden more than Trump to deal with police reform and racial inequities.

Trump is not going to be able to shoot his way out of this. Americans will expect him to work to find solutions and show empathy for the root causes, two things he’s incapable of doing.

Liljegren was easily the Marlies best the past two years. Give it time and he'll be for sure a good Leaf.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Any more word on who they’re planning on using if we get to playoff hockey?

I hear hockey is back on and come here to see what new hockey news there is and encounter almost 15 pages of political arguments.
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Same old hockeybuzz.

I hear hockey is back on and come here to see what new hockey news there is and encounter almost 15 pages of political arguments.
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Same old hockeybuzz.
- Thecakeisalie

Hockey not back on, sorry.

Hockey not back on, sorry.
- Canada Cup

- Thecakeisalie

And stay out, old man.

You’re coming closer but the question isn’t about do you agree in some respects. The question is what do you think of the job he’s doing and the answer is that they think he’s doing a bad job.
- Canada Cup

No, he's absolutely not doing the best job but that wasn't the point. I never said he was doing a great job but at this point people like you have become so blinded with bias that regardless of what he does, you'll find a way to female dog about it or straight up lie about it.

And actually the longer this goes, the worse his numbers are getting. You and your YouTube buddy are missing the point by focusing only on the use of force. From what I’ve seen, the violence seems to be trending down.

Actually no, that's not true. The longer the quarantine went, the less people agreed with it. People tried to protest it and people like you demonized it. But now the left won't demonize protests (they forgot about social distancing suddenly) even when it turns to violence. That's another issue you won't touch because you know how wrong you are on that front and how unemployment has made people even more hostile and violent. The longer the violence continues, the better he looks for using force.

Wait a minute. Violence is trending down? Could that be because the National Guard is being used? Gasp!

The key point from these polls and maybe the most heartening thing right now is that Americans support the protesters and trust Biden more than Trump to deal with police reform and racial inequities.

More violence, less support for the protests. People want reforms but they also don't enjoy chaos and destruction coming from that. There's also a track record of Biden doing (frank) all for 40 years in politics, plus he's losing his mind plus his own questionable quotes on racial matters.

Trump is not going to be able to shoot his way out of this. Americans will expect him to work to find solutions and show empathy for the root causes, two things he’s incapable of doing.

Democrats keep saying that and they keep being wrong. There's a lot of reasons for it but the biggest is their obsession with Trump rather than their obsession with creating policies that actually work and motivate people to elect them.

And stay out, old man.
- Steven_Seagull

How'd you know I turned a year older recently?

Any more word on who they’re planning on using if we get to playoff hockey?
- Canada Cup

Were I to guess-

Rielly-Barrie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Ceci

My preference-

Rielly-Dermott
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Liljegren

Were I to guess-

Rielly-Barrie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Ceci

My preference-

Rielly-Dermott
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Liljegren
- GreatGigInTheSky

Hopefully both Sandin and Liljegren get a bit of time. It'd no doubt be good experience, but I guess the coach has to go with whatever he thinks will help them win. Not that I'm certain having Barrie on the top line with Rielly is a good thing, or that having Ceci in the lineup is helpful. It's been so long, I forget how bad Ceci is. Can someone remind me?

Hopefully both Sandin and Liljegren get a bit of time. It'd no doubt be good experience, but I guess the coach has to go with whatever he thinks will help them win. Not that I'm certain having Barrie on the top line with Rielly is a good thing, or that having Ceci in the lineup is helpful. It's been so long, I forget how bad Ceci is. Can someone remind me?
- Thecakeisalie

The Blue Jackets are a hard forechecking, grinding team. Sandin and Liljegren would get crushed.

So will Barrie, Dermott, Ceci and to a lesser extent Rielly but at least they have experience.

Ceci is atrocious and should retire.

How'd you know I turned a year older recently?
- Thecakeisalie

It happens to us all, every year.

The Blue Jackets are a hard forechecking, grinding team. Sandin and Liljegren would get crushed.

So will Barrie, Dermott and to a lesser extent Rielly but at least they have experience.
- JohnFergusonJr

Yeah, you're probably right. Especially Sandin. I bet Lilybust might handle the physicality a little better.

It happens to us all, every year.
- Steven_Seagull

Every hour wounds. The last one kills.

Yeah, you're probably right. Especially Sandin. I bet Lilybust might handle the physicality a little better.
- Thecakeisalie

It's not just the physicality, it's the ability to make the right plays (quick, accurate outlet passes that don't get picked off for example) under tremendous pressure.

A team like Columbus, just like Boston, will target the Leafs weakest player and exploit him over and over and over again. They did it to Gardiner, they do it to anybody they see weakness in. Every time that player is on the ice, they dump it in his corner and hound him until he makes a mistake. Eventually, that player gets benched and now your best players are playing 4-5 more minutes per game than they should be playing.

Unfortunately for the Leafs, they don't have anybody better so maybe just play Liljegren instead of Ceci and alternate Dermott and Sandin and let them get beat but learn from their mistakes.

It's not just the physicality, it's the ability to make the right plays (quick, accurate outlet passes that don't get picked off for example) under tremendous pressure.

A team like Columbus, just like Boston, will target the Leafs weakest player and exploit him over and over and over again. They did it to Gardiner, they do it to anybody they see weakness in. Every time that player is on the ice, they dump it in his corner and hound him until he makes a mistake. Eventually, that player gets benched and now your best players are playing 4-5 more minutes per game than they should be playing.

Unfortunately for the Leafs, they don't have anybody better so maybe just play Liljegren instead of Ceci and alternate Dermott and Sandin and let them get beat but learn from their mistakes.
- JohnFergusonJr

Ah hah! So you also want Sandin and Liljegren to play and gain experience! See!


I get what you're saying and you're probably right for the most part. I just think Sandin in particular might suffer more since I don't think he's all that good at handling a lot of physicality just yet. As far as their ability in the D zone, both need improvement still.

Although I'm not sure how much better most of our other defenders are, sigh. I think Columbus' biggest problem might be trying to decide which of our defenders is "our weakest player".

Ah hah! So you also want Sandin and Liljegren to play and gain experience! See!


I get what you're saying and you're probably right for the most part. I just think Sandin in particular might suffer more since I don't think he's all that good at handling a lot of physicality just yet. As far as their ability in the D zone, both need improvement still.

Although I'm not sure how much better most of our other defenders are, sigh. I think Columbus' biggest problem might be trying to decide which of our defenders is "our weakest player".
- Thecakeisalie

Yeah that's probably how I'd go but A) don't expect Keefe to do that and B) don't expect it to work (which is why Keefe probably won't do it).

Blue Jackets are very much a "next man up" type of team. They don't have the high end talent but they send wave after wave of pressure, especially against a team like the Leafs that A) don't cycle and B) can't stop the cycle. I think they'll expose pretty much everybody on the Leafs blueline one way or another.

Yeah that's probably how I'd go but A) don't expect Keefe to do that and B) don't expect it to work (which is why Keefe probably won't do it).

Blue Jackets are very much a "next man up" type of team. They don't have the high end talent but they send wave after wave of pressure, especially against a team like the Leafs that A) don't cycle and B) can't stop the cycle. I think they'll expose pretty much everybody on the Leafs blueline one way or another.
- JohnFergusonJr

You'd hope Keefe will come up with some strategies to deal with the way Columbus plays, but I'm not sure what strategy would work that he has the right players to execute, and I'm also not sure how long the teams will have to practice (I assume everyone is still in isolation) before the games start.

You'd hope Keefe will come up with some strategies to deal with the way Columbus plays, but I'm not sure what strategy would work that he has the right players to execute, and I'm also not sure how long the teams will have to practice (I assume everyone is still in isolation) before the games start.
- Thecakeisalie

There's a strong chance Keefe gets outcoached by Torts. The way he had the Leafs playing before they stopped, they lacked consistent effort, played offense first pond hockey and paid no attention to defensive details. Torts has what he pulled off last year against Tampa Bay in his back pocket so you know his team is going to buy-in.

Keefe might luck out if the games are like October hockey and every game ends up being 5-4 but if it's normal playoff hockey, he's in for a rough ride especially if they get October Andersen too.

training camps (might) open in 7 days.
not sure how long of a lead period teams need, but would it be a decent assumption that the qualification round games could start around 1st of August?

8 matchups best of 5 - that's approx 10 days in total?

then playoffs start - with 1st and second round either best of 5 or best of 7.. approx 24 days? then last rounds - means SC winner pronounced end of September/ early Oct probably?

all of this seems to have lost some momentum though - nobody is really discussing Leafs vs Columbus series; and no news from NHL on the hub cities either.

would be nice if we could actually go back to some hockey talk..

There's a strong chance Keefe gets outcoached by Torts. The way he had the Leafs playing before they stopped, they lacked consistent effort, played offense first pond hockey and paid no attention to defensive details. Torts has what he pulled off last year against Tampa Bay in his back pocket so you know his team is going to buy-in.

Keefe might luck out if the games are like October hockey and every game ends up being 5-4 but if it's normal playoff hockey, he's in for a rough ride especially if they get October Andersen too.
- JohnFergusonJr

Meh, it's not like they had a coach the last three years that was out coaching the opposition....

training camps (might) open in 7 days.
not sure how long of a lead period teams need, but would it be a decent assumption that the qualification round games could start around 1st of August?

8 matchups best of 5 - that's approx 10 days in total?

then playoffs start - with 1st and second round either best of 5 or best of 7.. approx 24 days? then last rounds - means SC winner pronounced end of September/ early Oct probably?

all of this seems to have lost some momentum though - nobody is really discussing Leafs vs Columbus series; and no news from NHL on the hub cities either.

would be nice if we could actually go back to some hockey talk..
- MaximusAurelius

Is this new news? Last I heard they said mid July for training camps, with August 1 being start of play ins.

Edit: wait, you said they might start training camp in 7 days and playing starts August 1? You think they're going to have a month and a half training camp?