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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:21 PM ET
Wouldn't matter Orr could play the whole rink.
- PatC80

Full-disclosure: it is of my opinion that Bobby Orr is the greatest player to ever lace the skates.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:21 PM ET
Because Barrie is bad defensively and a rental. It's a simple slanted question that doesn't accurately show the whole picture.
- JohnFergusonJr

It's pretty black and white though. Did they need Kadri more than they needed a top 4 RHD. Not talking about Barrie
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:22 PM ET
Arnie is knocking it out of the park all day long:

https://www.theatlantic.c...a-needs-do-better/612442/

- Atomic Wedgie

President Arnie has a nice ring to it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:23 PM ET
Full-disclosure: it is of my opinion that Bobby Orr is the greatest player to ever lace the skates.
- mjones242

I never watched him play live, but watched some old games on nhl network and recently on Sportsnet. He was head and shoulders above everyone else in his era
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:23 PM ET
I asked a legitimate question. Probably the guy was violating a curfew if he was out rioting or looting.
- kaptaan


He was a local restaurant owner but the post did say he was black so I can see why you concluded he was a looter.

I repeat, you’re a waste of skin.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:24 PM ET
President Arnie has a nice ring to it.
- mjones242


Law says you have to be born in US
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 1 @ 9:25 PM ET
Arnie is knocking it out of the park all day long:

https://www.theatlantic.c...a-needs-do-better/612442/

- Atomic Wedgie

https://m.facebook.com/wa.../?v=1475398805828907&_rdr
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 1 @ 9:25 PM ET
You really are a waste of skin
- Canada Cup



You’re being too nice.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:25 PM ET
Marchand is orders of magnitude better than Kadri. Poor comparison.
- mjones242


Marchand was a 50-60 point player for the first 6 years of his career so while his ceiling has been higher than Kadri, let's not pretend he's Crosby from his rookie season either. The point was, he was a far greater suspension risk that learned his lesson. If he could avoid suspensions, so could Kadri.

You know what kind of players other players like? Guys who don't cost your team playoff series for being over-zealous.


Wrong again. Nobody on the Leafs blamed Kadri. And if they did, they have poopty characters who would rather blame a teammate for sticking up for his teammates than blame themselves for not getting the job done when the pressure was on.

Kadri had to go. We got a half-price Barrie that was miscast and misused under Inflexible Babs.


No he didn't. Barrie is poop defensively regardless of who the coach was and he's a rental.

Barrie wasn't the "answer" but I doubt there were any other d-men of his pedigree that Kadri's value would have allowed for. The only other name we've heard was Brodie's... not exactly known as a stud on the right-side.

Still, I would prefer half-priced Barrie or Brodie over another year of Kadri's playoff antics.


Not worth it, terrible trade.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jun 1 @ 9:26 PM ET
Arnie is knocking it out of the park all day long:

https://www.theatlantic.c...a-needs-do-better/612442/

- Atomic Wedgie

He has 2 donkeys for pets in his house

edit: 1 donkey, 1 mini horse
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 1 @ 9:27 PM ET
Kadri is in his late 20's, if he hasn't learned by now he may not ever. Also, Marchand trained and played with Crosby and Bergeron, who are always the hardest working player on the ice.
- PatC80


Wasting your breath there Pat - Kadri is no longer here and more than likely never will be. Good riddance. How many shifts into the series before Goon Jenner takes a run at Nylander, Marner or Matthews?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:27 PM ET
Trump has national guard use tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets to clear a completely peaceful crowd so he can have photo op in front of church. He gets there, stands in front of church holding bible upside down.

Clown show
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:28 PM ET
Marchand was a 50-60 point player for the first 6 years of his career so while his ceiling has been higher than Kadri, let's not pretend he's Crosby from his rookie season either. The point was, he was a far greater suspension risk that learned his lesson. If he could avoid suspensions, so could Kadri.



Wrong again. Nobody on the Leafs blamed Kadri. And if they did, they have poopty characters who would rather blame a teammate for sticking up for his teammates than blame themselves for not getting the job done when the pressure was on.



No he didn't. Barrie is poop defensively regardless of who the coach was and he's a rental.



Not worth it, terrible trade.

- JohnFergusonJr

Marchand improved after getting more ice time with Bergeron and playing with/learning from Crosby at world cup of hockey. Don't act like Kadri was getting that chance here. Babs wanted him to be a shutdown guy not a 1st line C. We can find cheaper guys in terms of cap hit to play a checking role.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:28 PM ET
Kadri is in his late 20's, if he hasn't learned by now he may not ever. Also, Marchand trained and played with Crosby and Bergeron, who are always the hardest working player on the ice.
- PatC80


Marchand was suspended multiple times in his late 20s.

A player doesn't have to play with or train with Crosby and Bergeron to learn their lesson. Terribly illogical argument.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 1 @ 9:28 PM ET
You’re being too nice.
- Steven_Seagull


Ok, whatever that pink poop is
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:29 PM ET
Trump has national guard use tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets to clear a completely peaceful crowd so he can have photo op in front of church. He gets there, stands in front of church holding bible upside down.

Clown show

- Canada Cup


Same peaceful crowd that lit that church on fire or nah?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:30 PM ET
Wasting your breath there Pat - Kadri is no longer here and more than likely never will be. Good riddance. How many shifts into the series before Goon Jenner takes a run at Nylander, Marner or Matthews?
- winsix

If he tries, Muzzin and Clifford can take runs at Jenner or Dubois or Atkinson. Geez CBJ is limited offensively
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:30 PM ET
Marchand was suspended multiple times in his late 20s.

A player doesn't have to play with or train with Crosby and Bergeron to learn their lesson. Terribly illogical argument.

- JohnFergusonJr

It helps though. Learning from the games best..
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:31 PM ET
Marchand improved after getting more ice time with Bergeron and playing with/learning from Crosby at world cup of hockey. Don't act like Kadri was getting that chance here. Babs wanted him to be a shutdown guy not a 1st line C. We can find cheaper guys in terms of cap hit to play a checking role.
- PatC80


As in the cheaper but small, weak, zero intensity, zero defensive ability, poopty FO, less effective offensively Kerfoot?

Nah. Better off with Kadri.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:32 PM ET
It helps though. Learning from the games best..
- PatC80


It can help but it doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary for another player like Kadri to learn from his own mistakes.

Again, let's remember why he got suspended; sticking up for a teammate. People exactly like you bemoaned the referees and the NHL for the officiating and the suspension but at the same time condemn Kadri as irredeemable. Can't have it both ways.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 1 @ 9:33 PM ET
Trump has national guard use tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets to clear a completely peaceful crowd so he can have photo op in front of church. He gets there, stands in front of church holding bible upside down.

Clown show

- Canada Cup

His strongman narrative has been shattered.

What's the old saying, a picture is worth a thousand electoral college votes?


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:33 PM ET
As in the cheaper but small, weak, zero intensity, zero defensive ability, poopty FO, less effective offensively Kerfoot?

Nah. Better off with Kadri.

- JohnFergusonJr

You're still ignoring a simple yes/no question? Keeping Kadri at 4.5M means we could have lost other players due to cap reasons.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
Needed a top 4 D easily but Barrie isn’t well rounded enough imo.
- Nighthawk

Agree with this. Leafs had that in gardiner who they let walk. I honestly would have gardiner over barrie.

Ya I know gardiner had his game 7 blunders but at some point a goalie has to be a goalie and stop a damn puck.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Jun 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
Law says you have to be born in US
- Canada Cup

Yep, unfortunately.

I mean, sure, the natural-born clause makes some sense as the fear is that a foreign-born individual might be potentially a foreign-compromised President. But hey, who says a natural-born American couldn't be foreign-compromised?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
It can help but it doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary for another player like Kadri to learn from his own mistakes.

Again, let's remember why he got suspended; sticking up for a teammate. People exactly like you bemoaned the referees and the NHL for the officiating and the suspension but at the same time condemn Kadri as irredeemable. Can't have it both ways.

- JohnFergusonJr

So it can help even though you called it an illogical argument?
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