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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
#1 pick.

Leafs don't have what it takes yet to make it deep into the playoffs.

But Lafreniere gives them an elite talent on his ELC which allows them to trade Nylander, fix the defense and get them the horses they need to finish the job in the near future.

- JohnFergusonJr



this logic is stupid
one of the options is them making it deep into the playoffs.


its not complicated, but you took it and made it stupid
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
this logic is stupid
one of the options is them making it deep into the playoffs.


its not complicated, but you took it and made it stupid

- senstroll


1st overall > Losing in the Conference Finals (which they most likely would)

Very simple.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
1st overall > Losing in the Conference Finals (which they most likely would)

Very simple.

- JohnFergusonJr


if you had actually said that...but you didnt
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
if you had actually said that...but you didnt
- senstroll


But I did. First thing I said was, #1 pick.

After that, in a separate sentence, just stated a well known fact; they don't have what it takes to make it deep into the playoffs.

Since your hypothetical didn't guarantee a win, odds are they'd lose and at that point, Lafreniere is more valuable to this team than an overachievement run.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'd love the #1 pick. Lafrenière is gonna be incredible.

I'd love for the Leafs to draft the next best French player.

- GreatGigInTheSky



Is Laf going to be better than Matthews?

I dont know what the general feeling is where he ranks as a #1 pick.


Id also love for this Leafs team to get a good run in them, making it to the conf finals would def go a long way in building these players up.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
But I did. First thing I said was, #1 pick.

After that, in a separate sentence, just stated a well known fact; they don't have what it takes to make it deep into the playoffs.

Since your hypothetical didn't guarantee a win, odds are they'd lose and at that point, Lafreniere is more valuable to this team than an overachievement run.

- JohnFergusonJr


They don't need a Lafreniere though, they need a #1 RHD
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
I'd love the #1 pick. Lafrenière is gonna be incredible.

I'd love for the Leafs to draft the next best French player.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Leafs already have the Goat
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
Oh I want to and therefore I will.

I have seen a few impressive Lynda Carter pictures today

- Aetherial

I'm taking B
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
They don't need a Lafreniere though, they need a #1 RHD
- TheMussel


I agree, they do but Lafreniere lets them trade Nylander for a RHD and have a cheap replacement on ELC.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 28 @ 1:55 PM ET
Did that piece of sh!t cop get arrested for murder yet
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
I agree, they do but Lafreniere lets them trade Nylander for a RHD and have a cheap replacement on ELC.
- JohnFergusonJr


Nylander is the next alex semin though, what team would trade him for more than low pairing guy
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Is Laf going to be better than Matthews?

I dont know what the general feeling is where he ranks as a #1 pick.


Id also love for this Leafs team to get a good run in them, making it to the conf finals would def go a long way in building these players up.

- senstroll



Pretty much. Why would we assume that if they can get by one of those four they can't get by whatever other team comes through. This will be such a crap shoot. Will teams in ten round robin really be ready to play? If you've got a shot, you always take it.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Did that piece of sh!t cop get arrested for murder yet
- Fakepartofme

Well all 4 on the scene were fired and the mayor is looking to press charges...so probably in the next day or so. I'm more interested in what the guy who couldn't cuff him and the guy keeping the public back will get. Might get Manslaughter.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
Nylander is the next alex semin though, what team would trade him for more than low pairing guy
- TheMussel


Nylander + Johnsson or Kerfoot + a prospect could get what they need and clear the cap space they need to fit that player under the cap.

If they needed to, they could trade Lafreniere for what they need too but would need to clear cap space to fit the player they acquire.

In every scenario, Leafs are better off with 1st overall.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 2:04 PM ET
Is Laf going to be better than Matthews?

I dont know what the general feeling is where he ranks as a #1 pick.


Id also love for this Leafs team to get a good run in them, making it to the conf finals would def go a long way in building these players up.

- senstroll

No, Mathews will either be the best or second best player in the league.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
Nylander + Johnsson or Kerfoot + a prospect could get what they need and clear the cap space they need to fit that player under the cap.

If they needed to, they could trade Lafreniere for what they need too but would need to clear cap space to fit the player they acquire.

In every scenario, Leafs are better off with 1st overall.

- JohnFergusonJr


Kerfoot and Johnsson coming off not good seasons, prospect pool one of the worst in the league
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 28 @ 2:06 PM ET
Nylander + Johnsson or Kerfoot + a prospect could get what they need and clear the cap space they need to fit that player under the cap.

If they needed to, they could trade Lafreniere for what they need too but would need to clear cap space to fit the player they acquire.

In every scenario, Leafs are better off with 1st overall.

- JohnFergusonJr

So nylander + 3rd liner + a prospect "could" get a rhd?
This better be the best rhd in the league and is under 25.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 28 @ 2:07 PM ET
Unlike the NHL and the NBA, there is no way MLB and maybe even the NFL can pay their players with a full season without fans. Payrolls are too big and the TV money doesn't cover enough of it. Unless the players play for a fraction of their contracts, it's not happening.

This is why I've always been a proponent of % based contracts for the NHL. If the cap ever goes down, most of the cap limit spending teams are screwed. The players contracts should be % based and go up and down based on the cap. Everybody wins because if the cap rises, the players get more money every year. But if it goes down, it doesn't lock a bunch of teams into cap hell either.

- JohnFergusonJr

This is exactly how the current system works.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 2:07 PM ET
Is Laf going to be better than Matthews?

I dont know what the general feeling is where he ranks as a #1 pick.


Id also love for this Leafs team to get a good run in them, making it to the conf finals would def go a long way in building these players up.

- senstroll

One word. Robertson.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Kerfoot and Johnsson coming off not good seasons, prospect pool one of the worst in the league
- TheMussel

And yet they have the best prospect.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
1st overall > Losing in the Conference Finals (which they most likely would)

Very simple.

- JohnFergusonJr

If the Leafs lose to the Columbus Blue Jackets, they have a 1.1% chance of getting the first pick.

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
And yet they have the best prospect.
- bobbyisno1


Remains to be seen, but if he can score at half the rate that he did in the OHL, I'll take it!

Pretty exciting stuff.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
If the Leafs lose to the Columbus Blue Jackets, they have a 1.1% chance of getting the first pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

But they won't give up that pick, it's lottery protected.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 28 @ 2:15 PM ET
Remains to be seen, but if he can score at half the rate that he did in the OHL, I'll take it!

Pretty exciting stuff.

- TheMussel

He seems like an absolute monster workhorse. Nothing better than having a young guy come into the fold and put on a work ethic clinic.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 28 @ 2:15 PM ET
If the Leafs lose to the Columbus Blue Jackets, they have a 1.1% chance of getting the first pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm on the fence though, I think they got screwed with this 24 team format.
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