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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
side note


no way brady is an 8 handicap


more like 28
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 24 @ 11:19 PM ET
side note


no way brady is an 8 handicap


more like 28

- homiedclown

“What’s the over/under Tom Brady gets bit by some kind of animal.”

That was the savage line of the night from Chuck.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

May 25 @ 12:05 AM ET
Moving forward...

For the playoffs:
-keep the 24 playoff team system
-the added revenue would be huge for teams

For the lotto:
-lotto should only be among the teams who miss the playoffs
-can still do 3 lotto picks if they want
-I’m ok with limiting how many spots u can move up... that always made more sense to me than letting a team who barely missed the playoffs move up 10+ spots based off pure luck

- jdfitz77


Before all this started I liked the idea of a 22 team playoff once Seattle enters the league.

If you look at the standings you’ll see that 2/3rd of the league is competitive so in my opinion we should capitalize on that parity.

Further more adding a 1st round buy for the top teams is a better reward for the regular season success than they have now and teams on the bubble might be more inspired to go for it rather than tank the season for better draft odds.

Then you’d be left with the bottom 10 non-playoff teams that actually need it eligible for the 3 draft lotteries.
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As for how all this actually plays out for the draft lottery it will depend on wether the league will look at the 1st round as a round robin deal or a playoff round.

If they consider it playoffs the bottom 7 should be the only teams in what I think should 2 draft lotteries for 1st/2nd.

But if the consider it a round robin they should take the eliminated teams and have a regular draft lottery.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 25 @ 12:59 AM ET
Before all this started I liked the idea of a 22 team playoff once Seattle enters the league.

If you look at the standings you’ll see that 2/3rd of the league is competitive so in my opinion we should capitalize on that parity.

Further more adding a 1st round buy for the top teams is a better reward for the regular season success than they have now and teams on the bubble might be more inspired to go for it rather than tank the season for better draft odds.

Then you’d be left with the bottom 10 non-playoff teams that actually need it eligible for the 3 draft lotteries.
—-—————————

As for how all this actually plays out for the draft lottery it will depend on wether the league will look at the 1st round as a round robin deal or a playoff round.

If they consider it playoffs the bottom 7 should be the only teams in what I think should 2 draft lotteries for 1st/2nd.

But if the consider it a round robin they should take the eliminated teams and have a regular draft lottery.

- RedC21


So u have pretty similar thoughts to mine
The reason I’d say 24 teams over 22 is more revenue for the league with 2 extra teams in
Plus it’s a nice round number that’s easy for everyone to understand

It also means there’d be 4 “byes”
Keeps the regular season relevant
Bc not only are teams fighting for the playoffs
There are also teams fighting for the byes

It’s a win for the owners- more $$$
It’s a win for the fans- better chance their team gets in the playoffs
And it’s a win for the players- bc it’s both of the above

It’s a no brainer
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 25 @ 1:40 AM ET
So u have pretty similar thoughts to mine
The reason I’d say 24 teams over 22 is more revenue for the league with 2 extra teams in
Plus it’s a nice round number that’s easy for everyone to understand

It also means there’d be 4 “byes”
Keeps the regular season relevant
Bc not only are teams fighting for the playoffs
There are also teams fighting for the byes

It’s a win for the owners- more $$$
It’s a win for the fans- better chance their team gets in the playoffs
And it’s a win for the players- bc it’s both of the above

It’s a no brainer

- jdfitz77


But the players don't get money in the playoffs and I don't see any of the players agreeing on this in the future its money for the owners but players get screwed
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 25 @ 3:01 AM ET
But the players don't get money in the playoffs and I don't see any of the players agreeing on this in the future its money for the owners but players get screwed
- gerbe75pts


Yeah, except for the whole point of the exercise aside from money is to win a Cup. That's pretty strong incentive; get a hot goalie and you can win(the Pens with Murray and the Blues with Binnington immediately spring to mind and that's just the past few years), it's happened before, it will happen again.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 25 @ 5:01 AM ET
Going back to the best debut albums list from last blog, it's hard to pick a top five, many of these that others mentioned,
Metallica Kill em All, VH, GnR Appetite, Pearl Jam 10, STP Core,
I would add, in no real particular order, as I try to remember the ones I thought of earlier. Godsmack, Ozzy's solo debut Blizzard of Ozz, Dio's solo debut Holy Diver (ok, this would be my #1, no doubt). Audioslave.

Best debut album not many serm to have heard- Cry of Love, Brother. This album kicks ass if you've never heard it. I guess they broke up after one album, or at least the singer left.
https://youtu.be/My4rWJMUjLI


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 7:21 AM ET
“What’s the over/under Tom Brady gets bit by some kind of animal.”

That was the savage line of the night from Chuck.

- Der Kaiser

chuck had some great lines


so did Peyton
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 8:30 AM ET
Moving forward...

For the playoffs:
-keep the 24 playoff team system
-the added revenue would be huge for teams

For the lotto:
-lotto should only be among the teams who miss the playoffs
-can still do 3 lotto picks if they want
-I’m ok with limiting how many spots u can move up... that always made more sense to me than letting a team who barely missed the playoffs move up 10+ spots based off pure luck

- jdfitz77

If they did that, I wouldn't be opposed. However, in that instance they should shorten the season to 72 games which does a couple of things:

a.) It gives the regular season more meaning
b.) It allows for time after the regular season for the expanded playoffs

Yes, teams will loose revenue for he five regular season home games they lost, but it would behoove organizations to ice as competitive product as possible
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 8:31 AM ET
So u have pretty similar thoughts to mine
The reason I’d say 24 teams over 22 is more revenue for the league with 2 extra teams in
Plus it’s a nice round number that’s easy for everyone to understand

It also means there’d be 4 “byes”
Keeps the regular season relevant
Bc not only are teams fighting for the playoffs
There are also teams fighting for the byes

It’s a win for the owners- more $$$
It’s a win for the fans- better chance their team gets in the playoffs
And it’s a win for the players- bc it’s both of the above

It’s a no brainer

- jdfitz77

I thought playoff gate revenue went to the teams
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 25 @ 8:33 AM ET
Yeah, except for the whole point of the exercise aside from money is to win a Cup. That's pretty strong incentive; get a hot goalie and you can win(the Pens with Murray and the Blues with Binnington immediately spring to mind and that's just the past few years), it's happened before, it will happen again.
- Wetbandit1

I have heard and read over the past decade plus that goaltending doesn't matter
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

May 25 @ 9:19 AM ET
I have heard and read over the past decade plus that goaltending doesn't matter
- Michael Pachla

Goaltending matters but in today’s game your team speed and both primary and secondary scoring matter most.
I remember the great leaf saviour Brian Burke going on and on and on last year about how goaltending is 80% of your team. He must have thought Phil Kessel was a goalie during his time making trades for the leafs. Maybe he should have made a trade for Rask instead whom an earlier leaf gm gave up. He makes a fine analyst and should stay doing that.
Sabres need secondary scoring and if that doesn’t change this summer the answer is simple. Mr. Botterill, good morning, good evening and good bye.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 25 @ 9:43 AM ET
Goaltending matters but in today’s game your team speed and both primary and secondary scoring matter most.
I remember the great leaf saviour Brian Burke going on and on and on last year about how goaltending is 80% of your team. He must have thought Phil Kessel was a goalie during his time making trades for the leafs. Maybe he should have made a trade for Rask instead whom an earlier leaf gm gave up. He makes a fine analyst and should stay doing that.
Sabres need secondary scoring and if that doesn’t change this summer the answer is simple. Mr. Botterill, good morning, good evening and good bye.

- Camel


Given that Botts has a very high number of contracts that expire this offseason, he will have an incredible amount of flexibility to reshape the roster into his vision for the team.
I am not confident in his abilities to do so properly. If that turns out to be true, then he will have set this organization back for years given the length of most contracts. I really don't want to risk the future for 3, 4 years to see what he can do, it will be too late and firing him does nothing to fix it.
It would be best IMO to dump him now before that damage is done and risk becomes a long term reality.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 25 @ 9:58 AM ET
Given that Botts has a very high number of contracts that expire this offseason, he will have an incredible amount of flexibility to reshape the roster into his vision for the team.
I am not confident in his abilities to do so properly. If that turns out to be true, then he will have set this organization back for years given the length of most contracts. I really don't want to risk the future for 3, 4 years to see what he can do, it will be too late and firing him does nothing to fix it.
It would be best IMO to dump him now before that damage is done and risk becomes a long term reality.

- IonSabres


Maybe my memory is shot, but I seem to remember just last year the prevailing wisdom was that Botterill was intentionally and prudently remaining patient until this offseason brought the opportunity to reshape the team.

It’s funny how hard it is for us fans to keep the faith.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:09 AM ET
Given that Botts has a very high number of contracts that expire this offseason, he will have an incredible amount of flexibility to reshape the roster into his vision for the team.
I am not confident in his abilities to do so properly. If that turns out to be true, then he will have set this organization back for years given the length of most contracts. I really don't want to risk the future for 3, 4 years to see what he can do, it will be too late and firing him does nothing to fix it.
It would be best IMO to dump him now before that damage is done and risk becomes a long term reality.

- IonSabres

he had cap space last summer as well


the frustrating part, is many of his additions do not work out


if he gets another offseason he better act like it's the bottom of the 9th and he is down a few runs


if he gets that chance
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 10:10 AM ET

It’s funny how hard it is for us fans to keep the faith.

- Der Kaiser




2007 was a long time ago
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
he had cap space last summer as well


the frustrating part, is many of his additions do not work out


if he gets another offseason he better act like it's the bottom of the 9th and he is down a few runs


if he gets that chance

- homiedclown


I would think he would. Considering he pretty much put all of his chips into the basket for this offseason.

I had faith in that thought process as well until he traded for Frolik and Simmonds and put us in an overage position. That was idiotic.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
Maybe my memory is shot, but I seem to remember just last year the prevailing wisdom was that Botterill was intentionally and prudently remaining patient until this offseason brought the opportunity to reshape the team.

It’s funny how hard it is for us fans to keep the faith.

- Der Kaiser


Wisdom? Maybe.

More like hope against all odds.
The results of his previous trades left very little confidence in his pro player evaluation that left few confident in his abilities.

Best reason I have heard for keeping him IMO is not having to go through another team evaluation period for the new GM before he makes moves.
The worst reason for keeping him is the risk associated with a new GM in a scenario where so many decisions need to happen that will impact the team for multiple seasons.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Wisdom? Maybe.

More like hope against all odds.
The results of his previous trades left very little confidence in his pro player evaluation that left few confident in his abilities.

Best reason I have heard for keeping him IMO is not having to go through another team evaluation period for the new GM before he makes moves.
The worst reason for keeping him is the risk associated with a new GM in a scenario where so many decisions need to happen that will impact the team for multiple seasons.

- IonSabres

once it's official the sabres season is done the next 48 hours will be interesting
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 25 @ 11:02 AM ET


It’s funny how hard it is for us fans to keep the faith.

- Der Kaiser

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When reached for comment Sabres President Kim Pegula was “unaware” they owned an NHL franchise.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Maybe my memory is shot, but I seem to remember just last year the prevailing wisdom was that Botterill was intentionally and prudently remaining patient until this offseason brought the opportunity to reshape the team.

It’s funny how hard it is for us fans to keep the faith.

- Der Kaiser


Good post
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
once it's official the sabres season is done the next 48 hours will be interesting
- homiedclown



This is one of the most important off seasons in recent Sabres history. The $ spent on free agents this summer, (rfa and ufa) will dictate the next 5 years.

I think jbotts gets fired, doug whaley style after the draft.

The pandemic probably gave the pegula's an easy way out of a tough decision. Keeping botts has to be easier than going thru the hiring process?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
https://thehockeywriters....ockey-writers-mock-draft/

If the NJ Devils come away with Lucas Raymond, Anton Lundell, and Seth Jarvis with their 3 first round picks as happened in this mock, they will have had themselves one hell of an amazing draft.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
Wisdom? Maybe.

More like hope against all odds.
The results of his previous trades left very little confidence in his pro player evaluation that left few confident in his abilities.


Best reason I have heard for keeping him IMO is not having to go through another team evaluation period for the new GM before he makes moves.
The worst reason for keeping him is the risk associated with a new GM in a scenario where so many decisions need to happen that will impact the team for multiple seasons.

- IonSabres


I am nearly certain attitude you describe is something that developed for a majority of the posters on this board through the summer last year and over the course of this season.

A year ago in June most were confident that Botts had an appropriate strategy to sit tight this year and wait to remake the team when all the contracts expired at the same time.

Since then, Miller, Vesey, Jokiharju, Frolik and Simmonds come on board, with Scandella, Nylander and picks going out.

If we really weren’t expecting anything until this year, the tinkering was all more or less neutral other than committing us for a few years to Miller and Vesey, and upgrading us IMO with Jokiharju.

I think what left a bitter taste in everyone’s mouth is that he STILL doesn’t have a 2C, and when we came out of the Gates so fast fans changed their minds and didn’t want to wait to remake the roster.

I think, anyway.

Also, this is not a post that supports Botterill. It’s a post that tries to recall evolving expectations. I am tired as hell of a losing streak and I’m looking for the best way to flip it. I would not have objected to sending out picks and prospects (and players!) for the 2C.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters.com/2020-nhl-draft-the-hockey-writers-mock-draft/

If the NJ Devils come away with Lucas Raymond, Anton Lundell, and Seth Jarvis with their 3 first round picks as happened in this mock, they will have had themselves one hell of an amazing draft.

- kingcong39


I think I was the only person on the planet that said the Devils won the Hall trade.

Still don’t know why they gave Shero the boot but that was quite the going away present.
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