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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
It's basically a 3 player for a 1.5 player deal.
- PatC80

If we ever traded for Boone Jenner....

He would instantly become my favourite player on the Leafs
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
Doesn't sound like the prototypical Ottawa trade:

The mould is Dubas says "I want to help you by taking on so and so player", and Dorion says "well we need so and so player", and then Dubas says "what if we give you hot garbage instead" and then Dorion shakes on it.

- TheMussel



Welcome to the Leafs Marian Gaborik
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
2nd line players

5v5 - Last 82 Games Played


- senstroll

No point in using logic. Player values are based off of what line they play on only. So, Dustin Brown is equal in terms of value to Auston Matthews... Right Max?
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

May 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
new blog everyone
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 25 @ 11:36 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Β·
2m
In zoom call, CAR player rep Jordan Martinook confirms his team (along with TB) voted against playoff structure. "For where we were and where our team thought we could get to, it hurts our odds." But, "It's not like we don't want to play." Now it's in the past and they move on.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
2nd line players

5v5 - Last 82 Games Played


- senstroll


Wheres Roope?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
😁😁😁

Connor Brown played on the top line here one season we should offer Marner to Ottawa for Connor Brown.
Just thinking like Max.

- PatC80


Apparently you only watch the Leafs and think that all players on Leafs >>>> rest of NHL players.

really, you should ask other team's fans about how they think about Nylander - you'll see that most fans will compare him with players on their teams you feel are in the category of '2nd liners' (/ fringe 1st liners).

examples:

konecny (phi), lindholm (cgy), oshie (wsh), hoffman (flo), saad (chi), jarnkrok (nsh), teravainen (car), eberle (nyi), etc.

most of those teams would have to think hard before giving up those players for nylander - personally I only think Nylander is clearly better than Eberle - rest quite equal.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
Wheres Roope?
- GreatGigInTheSky



promoted to the 1st line
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
Wheres Roope?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Nylander just got lucky playing 5 on 5 the last 82 games.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 25 @ 11:39 AM ET
Ugh an outside line up for the home depot garden center....in this heat.

Blerg

- Fakepartofme



my neighbor is burn poop out side and we had to close all of our windows and then the wife turn on the dryer and my office is in the basement which nice an warm!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 25 @ 11:42 AM ET
Apparently you only watch the Leafs and think that all players on Leafs >>>> rest of NHL players.

really, you should ask other team's fans about how they think about Nylander - you'll see that most fans will compare him with players on their teams you feel are in the category of '2nd liners' (/ fringe 1st liners).

examples:

konecny (phi), lindholm (cgy), oshie (wsh), hoffman (flo), saad (chi), jarnkrok (nsh), teravainen (car), eberle (nyi), etc.

most of those teams would have to think hard before giving up those players for nylander - personally I only think Nylander is clearly better than Eberle - rest quite equal.

- MaximusAurelius

Umm, nope. I don't only watch the Leafs. That's a poor attempt to make yourself look smart.
Saad, Jarnkrok, Eberle and Konecny are not as good as Nylander. Also, Hoffman played on a line with Barkov and Huberdeau. If you think Nylander is equal to Teravainen, would you trade Hintz for Teravainen?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 25 @ 11:42 AM ET
promoted to the 1st line
- senstroll


Ohhh. Now it all makes sense!

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
Ohhh. Now it all makes sense!


- GreatGigInTheSky

It does. Now the only way to get Hintz is to include Matthews.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

May 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
Apparently you only watch the Leafs and think that all players on Leafs >>>> rest of NHL players.

really, you should ask other team's fans about how they think about Nylander - you'll see that most fans will compare him with players on their teams you feel are in the category of '2nd liners' (/ fringe 1st liners).

examples:

konecny (phi), lindholm (cgy), oshie (wsh), hoffman (flo), saad (chi), jarnkrok (nsh), teravainen (car), eberle (nyi), etc.

most of those teams would have to think hard before giving up those players for nylander - personally I only think Nylander is clearly better than Eberle - rest quite equal.

- MaximusAurelius


As good as Nylander?

konecny (phi) - maybe. Meybe better.
lindholm (cgy) - nope.
oshie (wsh) - maybe 5 years ago.
hoffman (flo) - nearing the end of his prime. Drama. Nope.
saad (chi) - ha! No. The guy Chicago traded for him is better though.
jarnkrok (nsh) - never was.
teravainen (car) - he might be better.
eberle (nyi) - maybe 10 years ago.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 25 @ 12:27 PM ET
Maybe Nylander and Johnsson for Klingberg, Hintz and Faksa. Even still, I think that Nylander alone should get that type of return.
- PatC80

Not all 3
I could see willie for klingberg and one of the other two.
Dallas doesnt part with all 3.

Maybe, dunno.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 25 @ 12:30 PM ET
Hintz and Nylander are both 2nd line FWs.

Heiskanen is an elite D-talent, with the potential to be a top5 D-man in NHL for the next 10-12 years. He's a potential Norris winner.

So no, nothing at all the same.

(let's not go into your Nylander for Faksa + Hintz + Klingberg suggestion..)

- MaximusAurelius

Willie has more pts in one season than hintz has in his career.
Sorry.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 25 @ 1:37 PM ET
Here is today's matchup, A or B


- Aetherial


B....for two reasons

1. Don't know the other chicken
2. The GI Joe jogging scene...nuff said
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
Next season Leafs - my wishlist:

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Hintz - Matthews - Mikheyev
Kapanen - ??? - Barabanov
Engvall - Gauthier - Korshkov
13th: Spezza / Clifford

Out: Nylander (traded), Johnsson (traded), Kerfoot (traded)

Rielly - ??
Muzzin - Dermott
Sandin - Lehtonen
7th, 8th: Liljegren, Holl

Out: Barrie (no new contract), Marincin (AHL), Ceci (no new contract), RosΓ©n (AHL)

Holtby
Campbell

Out: Freddy

==

question is whether Leafs can turn Nylander, Kerfoot, Johnsson into Hintz + a proper 3rd line C + 1RHD (seems Nylander + something for Hintz should work), and trade Andersen to a team for picks/prospects - Holtby a UFA signing (I assume 7-8.5mln on a 7year deal).
Return for Kerfoot, Johnsson, Freddy should go to the 3C and 1RHD.

Not sure if there are any big demand for Kerfoot, Johnsson since on a bit inflated contracts.

- MaximusAurelius



Jesus (frank)ing Christ.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 25 @ 1:48 PM ET
Hintz is the superior player between Hintz and Nylander.
People suggesting Dallas would give up Heiskanen for Nylander in a 1:1 should really up their meds.

- MaximusAurelius



Jokes
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 25 @ 1:51 PM ET
Hintz and Nylander are both 2nd line FWs.

Heiskanen is an elite D-talent, with the potential to be a top5 D-man in NHL for the next 10-12 years. He's a potential Norris winner.

So no, nothing at all the same.

(let's not go into your Nylander for Faksa + Hintz + Klingberg suggestion..)

- MaximusAurelius



One of them is better than 2nd liner, and one is barely a 3rd liner.

(frank) off
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

May 25 @ 1:55 PM ET
Apparently you only watch the Leafs and think that all players on Leafs >>>> rest of NHL players.

really, you should ask other team's fans about how they think about Nylander - you'll see that most fans will compare him with players on their teams you feel are in the category of '2nd liners' (/ fringe 1st liners).

examples:

konecny (phi), lindholm (cgy), oshie (wsh), hoffman (flo), saad (chi), jarnkrok (nsh), teravainen (car), eberle (nyi), etc.

most of those teams would have to think hard before giving up those players for nylander - personally I only think Nylander is clearly better than Eberle - rest quite equal.

- MaximusAurelius


Other teams fans.... That's how we base value got it.

What a clown.

I value mcdavid as a4th liner, leaf trade Freddy the goat for him. That's how this works right?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 25 @ 4:13 PM ET
Done
- AdamFrench

BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

May 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
Here is today's matchup, A or B


- Aetherial

A
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