Oh I'm relieved. Thanks for that update.
- TheMussel

It absolutely sucks that both the Canadian and American governments, at all levels, have failed to protect the elderly during this pandemic but the reality is that the average age of a COVID death is 80+. There is a clear cut group of people at risk. So long as those groups are protected, the rest of the world can start to operate as it normally would with reasonable and rational precautions. The NHL players are not at risk here and anybody who feels like they are can stay at home.

imagine what the MSM would say if Trump used the word "ain't" when talking to a black guy....
- drexel

Go aks them

It absolutely sucks that both the Canadian and American governments, at all levels, have failed to protect the elderly during this pandemic but the reality is that the average age of a COVID death is 80+. There is a clear cut group of people at risk. So long as those groups are protected, the rest of the world can start to operate as it normally would. The NHL players are not at risk here and anybody who feels like they are can stay at home.
- JohnFergusonJr

Between some players that are potentially immunocompromised like max domi, unreliable tests that show negative and then positive again, the unknown long term effects of having been a carrier of the coronavirus or having been ill from it, and the potential for slip ups in terms of quarantine due to the sheer volume of people required to make hockey happen, I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with it. And I'm sure that all of the players would report even if they didn't feel like they should, much in the same way they like to play with concussion like symptoms, but what if half of a team slated for playoffs decides not to report?

Between some players that are potentially immunocompromised like max domi, unreliable tests that show negative and then positive again, the unknown long term effects of having been a carrier of the coronavirus or having been ill from it, and the potential for slip ups in terms of quarantine due to the sheer volume of people required to make hockey happen, I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with it. And I'm sure that all of the players would report even if they didn't feel like they should, much in the same way they like to play with concussion like symptoms, but what if half of a team slated for playoffs decides not to report?
- TheMussel

The number of immunocompromised NHL players is incredibly small. Good luck naming 1% of the player pool. And nobody should force those guys to play. Hell, Montreal shouldn't even be in the playoffs to begin with.

The players are voting on it now. If they say they want to play, nobody should feel bad or angry at them for it. They have that freedom. Just the same way nobody should be mad at Max Domi for staying at home. Let the players that want to play, play and the those that don't, don't have to.

The number of immunocompromised NHL players is incredibly small. Good luck naming 1% of the player pool. And nobody should force those guys to play. Hell, Montreal shouldn't even be in the playoffs to begin with.

The players are voting on it now. If they say they want to play, nobody should feel bad or angry at them for it. They have that freedom. Just the same way nobody should be mad at Max Domi for staying at home. Let the players that want to play, play and the those that don't, don't have to.
- JohnFergusonJr

I can name 0.1% of the player pool max domi. There might be others that I don't know of.

Anywho if the players want to play, all the power to them as long as they're not putting anyone else at risk. There's been some individual pushback about playing before the situation starts to resolve; I think there's a chance that the hockey team-first mentality takes over in voting.

I still think they should cancel it though.

I can name 0.1% of the player pool max domi. There might be others that I don't know of.

Anywho if the players want to play, all the power to them as long as they're not putting anyone else at risk. There's been some individual pushback about playing before the situation starts to resolve; I think there's a chance that the hockey team-first mentality takes over in voting.

I still think they should cancel it though.
- TheMussel

The "situation" is already resolving. It's been 3 months. There is enough information to know what and who is a risk at this point and elite athletes aren't in any risk groups. The NHL playing creates far more positives than negatives, not only for themselves but for their partners, sponsors and their fans.

The "situation" is already resolving. It's been 3 months. There is enough information to know what and who is a risk at this point and elite athletes aren't in any risk groups. The NHL playing creates far more positives than negatives, not only for themselves but for their partners, sponsors and their fans.
- JohnFergusonJr

And I will counter by saying that it's ONLY been three months and that we don't know enough about the disease to be making hasty decision. Once the spread can be curtailed through something other than isolation or we understand more about the disease then we should revisit. The positives of the NHL playing don't outweigh the negatives if the negatives constitutes increased morbidity or death even among a tiny proportion of the population.

Pretty sure you don't get the Dem nomination without some backdoor DNC shenanigans, but it's cute that you might think differently.
- mjones242

Pete had nothing except some media hype. Once he left those three white primaries, the bubble burst. What shenanigans are these?

The "situation" is already resolving. It's been 3 months. There is enough information to know what and who is a risk at this point and elite athletes aren't in any risk groups. The NHL playing creates far more positives than negatives, not only for themselves but for their partners, sponsors and their fans.
- JohnFergusonJr

Just over 2 months and 11 days.

I can name 0.1% of the player pool max domi. There might be others that I don't know of.

Anywho if the players want to play, all the power to them as long as they're not putting anyone else at risk. There's been some individual pushback about playing before the situation starts to resolve; I think there's a chance that the hockey team-first mentality takes over in voting.

I still think they should cancel it though.
- TheMussel

JFJ is probably not one of the medical experts that players are listening to because once again he's pretty much full of poop. I assume though they are getting good advice and understand the risks. They also should understand what's at stake financially, especially if next year starts with no fans. They can make that decision.

Owners, no surprise, have no downside.

Socially, it's a different story unless there is a big improvement in terms of infection and testing capacity by the time they play. They'll all ignore those issues and the people who aren';t looking at a big pay cheque who are being put at risk.

Just over 2 months and 11 days.
- Leafsandbolts

If this is not under control by July, I don't see how any sport can return

It's false because CNN didn't report it?



- Komisaurus Rex

(frank) off, scum.

It absolutely sucks that both the Canadian and American governments, at all levels, have failed to protect the elderly during this pandemic but the reality is that the average age of a COVID death is 80+. There is a clear cut group of people at risk. So long as those groups are protected, the rest of the world can start to operate as it normally would with reasonable and rational precautions. The NHL players are not at risk here and anybody who feels like they are can stay at home.
- JohnFergusonJr

The 90,000 health care workers infected with Covid 19 probably feel a lot better knowing Syd and the boys are going to be ok.

And I will counter by saying that it's ONLY been three months and that we don't know enough about the disease to be making hasty decision. Once the spread can be curtailed through something other than isolation or we understand more about the disease then we should revisit.
- TheMussel

Just over 2 months and 11 days.
- Leafsandbolts

Or 6+ months if you start counting from when China "discovered" it in late 2019.

The positives of the NHL playing don't outweigh the negatives if the negatives constitutes increased morbidity or death even among a tiny proportion of the population.
- TheMussel

That most likely won't happen with NHL players or any other healthy elite level athlete. And again, it's their choice to play either way.

The 90,000 health care workers infected with Covid 19 probably feel a lot better knowing Syd and the boys are going to be ok.
- Canada Cup

Which means what? That the vast majority of health care workers will become immune to the virus?

Which means what? That the vast majority of health care workers will become immune to the virus?
- JohnFergusonJr

Have you been to an infection party yourself if its so good for everyone else?

Which means what? That the vast majority of health care workers will become immune to the virus?
- JohnFergusonJr

well hopefully that retirement home beater gets it and then some

Or 6+ months if you start counting from when China "discovered" it in late 2019.



That most likely won't happen with NHL players or any other healthy elite level athlete. And again, it's their choice to play either way.
- JohnFergusonJr

this I agree with

If this is not under control by July, I don't see how any sport can return
- PatC80

Agree with you.

Friedman's 31 thoughts indicated that Leafs were likely to play Columbus then Boston. I am not sure I can handle another Boston - Toronto series.

well hopefully that retirement home beater gets it and then some
- drexel

oddly enough not on CNN main page. But it does say that Crayola has issued new crayons and that a cat was born with 2 faces. what a joke. I guess it doesn't fit that narrative.

Or 6+ months if you start counting from when China "discovered" it in late 2019.



That most likely won't happen with NHL players or any other healthy elite level athlete. And again, it's their choice to play either way.
- JohnFergusonJr

Then there are the reports that younger people with little to no early covid symptoms may get extensive blood clots throughout the body several weeks after contracting the virus.

I can only imagine a situation where quarantine is broken, 5% of the league is infected through close physical contact, and one out of those 35 or so dies because of it.

Without knowing more about how this occurs, or having accurate numbers in terms of the rate that it occurs, I wouldn't personally risk it.

Pete had nothing except some media hype. Once he left those three white primaries, the bubble burst. What shenanigans are these?
- Canada Cup

Really?

Which means what? That the vast majority of health care workers will become immune to the virus?
- JohnFergusonJr

The idea that everyone recovers from the virus is immune to it isn't certain at this point.

Or 6+ months if you start counting from when China "discovered" it in late 2019.



That most likely won't happen with NHL players or any other healthy elite level athlete. And again, it's their choice to play either way.
- JohnFergusonJr

If you were there, why didn't you stop it?

Really?
- mjones242

This primary? I haven't heard any real complaints from any serious candidate.