yes ..done deal


are you putting a pool in ?
- gerbe75pts

No, the pool with a screened in Lanai is in already.
This is the back garden that overlooks a "lake"
(Up north we call them retention ponds, lol.)

I would still go and get Strome.
- Buff36

One Strome just turned 23 and is about to get moved to his 3rd team and the other is 26 and may be going to his 4th team.
Maybe they should look in a different direction.

Over the last 6 years he's basically a 35 point guy. I'm having a hard time even getting a chubby over that, much less getting really worked up.
- Der Kaiser

He's an ideal compliment to Eichel and whoever else they have or get at center (Cozens or someone else like Strome or Monahan) due to his strong overall play and his defensive abilities.

There's more to look at than just points scored.

We will be at the bottom of thats all we do and Jack will. Likely be done with us if that happens
- gerbe75pts

Dillon and Bonino would have had us in the playoffs this season if they were here all season.

One Strome just turned 23 and is about to get moved to his 3rd team and the other is 26 and may be going to his 4th team.
Maybe they should look in a different direction.
- adambuffalo

I don't get the sense Chicago is dissatsified with his play (they would be nuts if they were.) It's just contract stauts and asset management in a cap world.

One Strome just turned 23 and is about to get moved to his 3rd team and the other is 26 and may be going to his 4th team.
Maybe they should look in a different direction.
- adambuffalo

Maybe, just think when Chicago had him playing C he was good, he didn't fare so well when they put him back at Wing this year.

He's an ideal compliment to Eichel and whoever else they have or get at center (Cozens or someone else like Strome or Monahan) due to his strong overall play and his defensive abilities.

There's more to look at than just points scored.
- kingcong39

I mean most don’t even appreciate Larry and they watched one of the better defensive teams in the league this season.

Are you surprised ?

Dillon and Bonino would have had us in the playoffs this season if they were here all season.
- adambuffalo

I still think we would have came close this year even with the current roster if Hutton/JoJo didn’t cost us 6-8 points while we were in the thick of it. I don’t count the last few games we played cause that team was down and out and they knew it.

Getting another 1A/1B option in goal is just as important, if not more important then the 2C and I’m not being the least bit sarcastic.

I mean most don’t even appreciate Larry and they watched one of the better defensive teams in the league this season.

Are you surprised ?
- Pegullaville

I'm not, and I get it that people want centers and forwards that score a lot of points.

Problem is those players cost a LOT to get, and are they even available?

Sure, go ahead and get Barkov or someone like that, but be prepared to pay out the nose plus plus.

Or go and get someone like Bonino, who won't cost as much, isn't flashy, but is a damn good player.

Or go and get Strome or Monahan, who will absolutely cost more, but understand both players have serious questions about their defensive abilities.

I still think we would have came close this year even with the current roster if Hutton/JoJo didn’t cost us 6-8 points while we were in the thick of it. I don’t count the last few games we played cause that team was down and out and they knew it.

Getting another 1A/1B option in goal is just as important, if not more important then the 2C and I’m not being the least bit sarcastic.
- Pegullaville

bury hutton
bring in Greiss on a 1 year deal

get a solid top 4 LD

move Risto or Montour for help up front


IMO those moves are what makes us a team ready to advance in the post season if we have a second and third line center in the fall


and between casey, cozens and ruotsalainen we may have those 2 centers

I don't get the sense Chicago is dissatsified with his play (they would be nuts if they were.) It's just contract stauts and asset management in a cap world.
- Der Kaiser

So what are we giving up to get a temporary 2C and eventual 3C?

So what are we giving up to get a temporary 2C and eventual 3C?
- adambuffalo

That is where my thinking is at, a bit.

If you want to tell me you are ready to give up Reinhart and Montour in a deal for Monahan, I won't argue with that, but understand that players like Monahan and Strome have warts as well.

bury hutton
bring in Greiss on a 1 year deal

get a solid top 4 LD

move Risto or Montour for help up front

IMO those moves are what makes us a team ready to advance in the post season if we have a second and third line center in the fall

and between casey, cozens and ruotsalainen we may have those 2 centers
- homiedclown

Not for next season they don't, and if they go into next season with that mentality, meaning having Mittelstadt and Cozens center the 2nd and 3rd lines, they are going to get crushed, again.

He would check all the boxes of what they have needed as far as center depth for years.

His contract also only lasts one more year.

If it does not cost much to trade for him, why not?

I say all of above as I would go get him AND Strome.

They have the assets to do so, and it would massively improve their center depth.
- kingcong39

Solid post.
Allowing Cozens to learn at 3RW for 3/4's of the season is a wise move.
Bonino would be terrific there. Put his with Mojo on 3LW, and allow Kahun to test drive the 2RW spot for awhile with Skinner and Strome would be a fun fast line. Just shelter them a bit.

So what are we giving up to get a temporary 2C and eventual 3C?
- adambuffalo

If Friedman is right, “Like, he’s available. ... I don’t think the cost is really prohibitive. No, I don’t."

https://www.secondcityhoc...ble-nhl-trade-rumors-2020

We've got at least 3 guys that this board has been clamoring to dump for two or three years. Throw in picks or prospects as needed. I've had enough of "we need to wait for the young guys to mature before the time is right." And if we wind up with a 50 point player as our eventual 3C - presuming we can balance that production with the right defensive line mates (or leave Strome at 2C and groom Cozens as an amazing 3C) - that feels like a great problem to have.

One Strome just turned 23 and is about to get moved to his 3rd team and the other is 26 and may be going to his 4th team.
Maybe they should look in a different direction.
- adambuffalo

Strome was never ready and was forced into the lineup because of the coyotes and it killed his development ..

bury hutton
bring in Greiss on a 1 year deal

get a solid top 4 LD

move Risto or Montour for help up front


IMO those moves are what makes us a team ready to advance in the post season if we have a second and third line center in the fall


and between casey, cozens and ruotsalainen we may have those 2 centers
- homiedclown

"What could go wrong?" - Jason Botterill 2018

Also

"What could go wrong?" - Jason Botterill 2019

If Friedman is right, “Like, he’s available. ... I don’t think the cost is really prohibitive. No, I don’t."

https://www.secondcityhoc...ble-nhl-trade-rumors-2020

We've got at least 3 guys that this board has been clamoring to dump for two or three years. Throw in picks or prospects as needed. I've had enough of "we need to wait for the young guys to mature before the time is right." And if we wind up with a 50 point player as our eventual 3C - presuming we can balance that production with the right defensive line mates (or leave Strome at 2C and groom Cozens as an amazing 3C) - that feels like a great problem to have.
- Der Kaiser

I have no problem bringing in Dylan Strome, but you better bring in another center, aside from bringing back Larsson, who can play well defensively at center, as Dylan Strome ranks the following in 2 key defensive metrics out of all NHL forwards who played at least 200 minutes last year:

Key Metric 1: 546th out of 673
Key Metric 2: 513th out of 673

For context, this is where Monahan ranks defensively:

Key Metric 1: 639th out of 673
Key Metric 2: 579th out of 673

Either one of those two are absolutely going to need a center that can handle heavy defensive assignments as neither of those two have shown they can handle that at all so far in their careers.

Strome was never ready and was forced into the lineup because of the coyotes and it killed his development ..
- gerbe75pts

So what are you willing to give up for him?

Also, how did Arizona rush him? 7 games at 19 y/o, 21 games at 20 y/o and 20 at 21 y/o when he was traded.

So what are you willing to give up for him?
- adambuffalo

A lot.. What ever it takes he's going to be 80 - 90 pt player in his heyday and him cozens will be great

And we can sign him for 6m for 8 years

A lot.. What ever it takes he's going to be 80 - 90 pt player in his heyday and him cozens will be great

And we can sign him for 6m for 8 years
- gerbe75pts

Will he learn to play defense at some point as well...? He hasn't yet.

Will he learn to play defense at some point as well...? He hasn't yet.
- kingcong39

If he were to become a perennial 90-point center, his inability to play defense should be the least of any team's worries.

Will he learn to play defense at some point as well...? He hasn't yet.
- kingcong39

If he is scoring and making plays I really don't care
You can get a wing that plays a 2 way game like hornqvist

If he is scoring and making plays I really don't care
You can get a wing that plays a 2 way game like hornqvist
- gerbe75pts

He's going to need it based on his defensive play so far.

A lot.. What ever it takes he's going to be 80 - 90 pt player in his heyday and him cozens will be great

And we can sign him for 6m for 8 years
- gerbe75pts

If he is scoring and making plays I really don't care
You can get a wing that plays a 2 way game like hornqvist
- gerbe75pts

Stick with xbox.