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Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

May 5 @ 8:44 PM ET
Saad is worth his current salary and, IMO, is a top 6 forward on nearly every NHL team. I believe Ogi or someone else said the same thing, too.

Even when Saad does play 3rd line, it is likely (or should be) because there is more of a Line 2A and Line 2B (i.e. great forward depth) rather than a stark difference in talent level between Lines 2 and 3.

With the present roster, Saad should be playing top 6:

Saad - Toews - Kubalik
Nylander - Dach - Kane
DeBrincat - Strome - Shaw

Questions loom with health (Shaw), contract status (Kubalik and Strome), and each line's capacity to play defense.

- AEL_Fox

We should keep Saad unless we get an offer that blows out of the water. We don’t have enough defensively responsible forwards, that’s why I’d like to see Saad on third line, or 2B as you state. This helps add another 200’ forward to a different line than Toews line. I would try Nylander with Toews and Saad with Kane, not sure it’s a good idea to have Nylander on the same line as Kane. Just one man’s opinion.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

May 5 @ 9:18 PM ET
Pritzger said today, no sports or conventions without vaccine or proven effective treatment. That doesn't work well for hockey. NHL needs fans in seats.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 5 @ 9:24 PM ET
Pritzger said today, no sports or conventions without vaccine or proven effective treatment. That doesn't work well for hockey. NHL needs fans in seats.
- rpeters01

Pritzker molests collies.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

May 5 @ 9:39 PM ET
Pritzker molests collies.
- Ogilthorpe2

A friend of mine says it violates interstate commerce. I'm obviously not an attorney and the law is gray. Feds will get involved if so.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 5 @ 9:58 PM ET
Like your idea but I wouldn't trade our current pick to bump down, especially that far. Keep our current pick and find other ways to acquire another 1st rounder if possible and that makes sense.
- AEL_Fox

You could make the trade conditional on if the players you would draft at our spot ( say it is #9) is still on the board. But know that your trade partner might also back out and this could be the case if your trade partner team has other pre arranged conditional trades lined up.

You can see one line of thinking with GM's is: 1). I have little wiggle room to sign a free agent even if I release or send one of my players long term injury. Even to AHL if possible; .my player might then become easier to trade

2).Even though I can maybe gain a tad salary cap relief from the above, I need to bring in a top player at "x" position. I weaken one position to strengthen another when I trade one of my too players. Therefore if I can get someone from the Entry Draft. What does it take to move up to #9 or #7 or is it worth to drop a couple slots?

Could be a buyers market to demand much to get the higher pick. Yes wiz points out a lot of players in later round one will play NHL. But do your scouts feel strongly that those in later round one could be top line or top defense pair The difference makers. How much faith do you have in your scouts?
LATE ADD: wiz says there is good value beyond the early picks. But as in trading for the team that winds up with the best player, you have a known good quality vs guesswork with unproven players either in NHL or still developing. Should try to keep higher choices. Teams with weak depth can look at it the other way. We should keep our pick not trade down.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
We should keep Saad unless we get an offer that blows out of the water. We don’t have enough defensively responsible forwards, that’s why I’d like to see Saad on third line, or 2B as you state. This helps add another 200’ forward to a different line than Toews line. I would try Nylander with Toews and Saad with Kane, not sure it’s a good idea to have Nylander on the same line as Kane. Just one man’s opinion.
- Angotti


Trade Saad now while he can still get some value. Maybe a 2nd and 3rd, could be two 2nds if Stan retains some salary. The additional cap space will be great.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

May 5 @ 10:45 PM ET
Trade Saad now while he can still get some value. Maybe a 2nd and 3rd, could be two 2nds if Stan retains some salary. The additional cap space will be great.
- DarthKane


Although it is difficult to trade Saad, you would be able to protect one more player you don't want to loose to expansion. Also the return price for Saad at next deadline is much less because teams have to view Saad at that time as a rental A rental is not deemed worth paying much for in that situation.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

May 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
Pritzger said today, no sports or conventions without vaccine or proven effective treatment. That doesn't work well for hockey. NHL needs fans in seats.
- rpeters01


California governor has said the same thing,
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

May 6 @ 12:44 AM ET
Although it is difficult to trade Saad, you would be able to protect one more player you don't want to loose to expansion. Also the return price for Saad at next deadline is much less because teams have to view Saad at that time as a rental A rental is not deemed worth paying much for in that situation.
- jhawk59

But you'll surely net at least a 1st round pick for him.

However, if the Hawks are dealing Saad by the deadline, they're already looking towards the ping pong balls anyhow.
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

May 6 @ 8:04 AM ET
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