$50 says Josh Allen has better overall stats than Dalton this season.

imissed weeks due to njuries from either voids the bet
- Der Kaiser

Wouldn’t surprise me if their stats are in the same neighborhood
The Pats aren’t gonna throw the ball 40xs a game
They’ll still play strong defense,
and have a really good O-line & group of RBs

thought you told me dalton sucks



- navinrjohnson

When did i say that???
You’re thinking of someone else

He was right the first time, then.
- Der Kaiser

oh my

When did i say that???
You’re thinking of someone else
- jdfitz77

nope


It was a qb ranking debate and you and bunch others thought tyrod was a top 15 qb, yet dalton was trash and miles worse then tyrod



I am not making a big deal of it, more busting balls

Here's your post.

I'm with the "who" Sam is as a player. Tanking for him doesnt help. Slow, bad hands and streaky. Part of a lot of losing.

The quotes make clear that they didn't tank "for Sam," they tanked for two years.

And Boss, you gotta face it, despite the "slow, bad hands and streaky" label you have been trying to hang on him for the last two years, he still produces (with ROR as well as with Jack - so don't go there).
- Der Kaiser

Gmtm lost on purpose for the top pick. We lost the lottery to Florida. You think reinhart wasnt on gmtm's mind?
Sam was one of a handful of players believed to go in the top couple picks. It's a fact.

Did we specifically " tank for sam" - yes if tmgm had him as the #1 overall player. Which he probably did.

Tanking is when a team is not trying to make the playoffs so that they can have a higher probability of getting good draft picks.

To completely pretend that playing with eichel on a regular basis and on pp1 time isnt propping up his next contract, is wrong.
By nhl standards, sam is slow. Sam doesnt have a goal scorers touch ( hugh of 25 goals) and is streaky.
He finished without a point in 8 games. That's streaky.

nope


It was a qb ranking debate and you and bunch others thought tyrod was a top 15 qb, yet dalton was trash and miles worse then tyrod



I am not making a big deal of it, more busting balls
- navinrjohnson

NOPE
YOU’RE 100% WRONG

I’ve NEVER liked Tyrod at all
You’re WAY, WAY off here sir

life is too short

it's never a discussion, it's a daily bashing


you would think he was the 60th ranked RW instead of in the top 15


when you expire, your memories on here and a few others will be how bad sam reinhart was, despite the numbers he put up
- navinrjohnson

It was a discussion until your reinhart skirt started fitting tight.

The numbers he put up (WITH EICHEL) cant be ignored.

Well you can ignore them.

It was a discussion until your reinhart skirt started fitting tight.

- Boss34

it was a bashing, but life is too short


enjoy your life and stay safe

I have spoken

I think this is a more apt definition: tanking is losing on purpose to get a top draft choice and is an organizational decision.
- Michael Pachla

So this doesn't apply to the 2013-14 sabres?

Sam was 1 of a couple guys they wanted.

Splitting hairs

NOPE
YOU’RE 100% WRONG

I’ve NEVER liked Tyrod at all
You’re WAY, WAY off here sir
- jdfitz77

nope

and you also said we were better off with barkley as backup then spending money on dalton, as well


but life is too short


stay safe

give it up

the number one goal, even when the 13-14 season started, was to land either eichel or mcdavid in the 2015 draft


period


end of discussion



some people think that just because player x, y or z was picked second overall then they should be as good as eichel or malkin, which only shows how clueless they are with the process
- navinrjohnson

Right,

The Sabres were trying to win in 2013-14. They didnt want 2 back to back top players. They just wanted McDavid.

CLUELESS

nope

and you also said we were better off with barkley as backup then spending money on dalton, as well

but life is too short

stay safe
- navinrjohnson

I’ll bet you $1,000 that i never said Tyrod was a top15 QB
I’ve never thought he was better than top25

You’re wrong, 100% wrong


And i also never said we were “better with Barkley”

Only thing you’re kinda right about is that i didn’t wanna spend $17mil on our backup QB,
but that wasn’t bc i thought “Dalton sucked”

Gmtm lost on purpose for the top pick. We lost the lottery to Florida. You think reinhart wasnt on gmtm's mind?
Sam was one of a handful of players believed to go in the top couple picks. It's a fact.

Did we specifically " tank for sam" - yes if tmgm had him as the #1 overall player. Which he probably did.

Tanking is when a team is not trying to make the playoffs so that they can have a higher probability of getting good draft picks.

To completely pretend that playing with eichel on a regular basis and on pp1 time isnt propping up his next contract, is wrong.
By nhl standards, sam is slow. Sam doesnt have a goal scorers touch ( hugh of 25 goals) and is streaky.
He finished without a point in 8 games. That's streaky.
- Boss34

Please explain why he should be blamed for playing with the other good players on the team. Isn't that what happens to EVERY GOOD PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE? Like:

DuBois, Point, Aho, Monahan, Barzal, Connor, ROR.

https://thechargingbuffal...solution-not-the-problem/

It feels like you're making a dumb argument. Don't be a soup sandwich.

it was a bashing, but life is too short


enjoy your life and stay safe

I have spoken
- navinrjohnson

You remind me alot of homie.

Hope you stay safe and healthy as well 👍

Please explain why he should be blamed for playing with the other good players on the team. Isn't that what happens to EVERY GOOD PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE? Like:

DuBois, Point, Aho, Monahan, Barzal, Connor, ROR.

https://thechargingbuffal...solution-not-the-problem/

It feels like you're making a dumb argument. Don't be a soup sandwich.
- Der Kaiser

Blaming sam for playing with eichel is foolish.

Pretending sam would have nearly as many points without eichel is even more foolish.

Pretending sam isnt getting paid more, because of eichel is even more foolish

I find it curious that States are addressing the re-opening of businesses at a State level, rather than by say county.


NYC. 165,000 confirmed; 12,774 deaths
Erie County 3,224 confirmed; 234 deaths
Monroe County 1,404 confirmed; 103 deaths

One of the above is in a different universe, so why is this whole state under lockdown.
Population certainly paints a different detail, but still the same big picture.

Florida is similar with Miami Dade Cnty at 23X confirmed and 8x compared to the county I live in.

Seems weird.

You remind me alot of homie.

Hope you stay safe and healthy as well 👍
- Boss34

Blaming sam for playing with eichel is foolish.

Pretending sam would have nearly as many points without eichel is even more foolish.

Pretending sam isnt getting paid more, because of eichel is even more foolish
- Boss34

Does Monahan get more points playing with Johnny Hockey? How about Aho playing with Teravainen? O'Reilly with Perron?

https://www.urbandictiona....php?term=soup%20sandwich

I find it curious that States are addressing the re-opening of businesses at a State level, rather than by say county.


NYC. 165,000 confirmed; 12,774 deaths
Erie County 3,224 confirmed; 234 deaths
Monroe County 1,404 confirmed; 103 deaths

One of the above is in a different universe, so why is this whole state under lockdown.
Population certainly paints a different detail, but still the same big picture.

Florida is similar with Miami Dade Cnty at 23X confirmed and 8x compared to the county I live in.

Seems weird.
- IonSabres

It's the "Attractive nuisance" concept.

I find it curious that States are addressing the re-opening of businesses at a State level, rather than by say county.


NYC. 165,000 confirmed; 12,774 deaths
Erie County 3,224 confirmed; 234 deaths
Monroe County 1,404 confirmed; 103 deaths

One of the above is in a different universe, so why is this whole state under lockdown.
Population certainly paints a different detail, but still the same big picture.

Florida is similar with Miami Dade Cnty at 23X confirmed and 8x compared to the county I live in.

Seems weird.
- IonSabres

Dont worry In 2 weeks round 2 will hit ..

After this I'm 100% sure we all die in a Zombie Apocalypse

Blaming sam for playing with eichel is foolish.

Pretending sam would have nearly as many points without eichel is even more foolish.

Pretending sam isnt getting paid more, because of eichel is even more foolish
- Boss34

Well. We don't know that do we?
Jeez, I wonder if the team might have been able to demonstrate that as fact by playing Sam away from Eichel after they poop the bed in December.
Seems like a lost opportunity.
It's ok though, should be inconsequential...Evolving Hockey only projects his contract at 8 x $8.7m...I mean, it's not like it is a big, long commitment.

Well. We don't know that do we?
Jeez, I wonder if the team might have been able to demonstrate that as fact by playing Sam away from Eichel after they poop the bed in December.
Seems like a lost opportunity.
It's ok though, should be inconsequential...Evolving Hockey only projects his contract at 8 x $8.7m...I mean, it's not like it is a big, long commitment.
- IonSabres

Is that on Botts or Kreuger? And before anyone says that Botts should demand certain roster/lineup decisions, that doesn't happen very often in a GM/head coach relationship. Especially only months into the coaches tenure.

Dont worry In 2 weeks round 2 will hit ..

After this I'm 100% sure we all die in a Zombie Apocalypse
- gerbe75pts

we will die due to noise pollution when Nickelback releases their next record

Does Monahan get more points playing with Johnny Hockey? How about Aho playing with Teravainen? O'Reilly with Perron?

https://www.urbandictiona....php?term=soup%20sandwich
- Der Kaiser

these guys are more cheerful then some people here

Dont worry In 2 weeks round 2 will hit ..

After this I'm 100% sure we all die in a Zombie Apocalypse
- gerbe75pts

Virus has a .1% death rate after the antibody tests came back. Everything will he open soon. And a possible vaccine is in the works