Alright I get it. Arm strength is his major issue. I know YouTube scouting doesn’t mean anything. Lol.

Hopefully he develops into a nice backup or more.
- Sabretooth9

His lack of arm strength is exaggerated
It’s not that horrible

Brady fell bc of lack of arm strength too
Also a knock on Brees

Fromm can make all the throws

I mean half of the Bills draft went to Minnesota for Diggs.
- Pegullaville

U guys got Lock some weapons on offense

Sorry, maybe I misread your original post. Maybe you can clarify where you didn't say that a kicker should learn how to punt.
- adambuffalo

Should learn how is not the same as "should".

I'm done with ye.

What you're saying is WRONG, period.
Next time when being critical, be accurate.
You lose alot of credibility with this stupid post.

My posts were directed at Beadies dreadful posts that moved the premise of his posts literally all over the field. He said
-the Bill's had not drafted OL...wrong, they did 7 times in 6 years.
-they should draft one every year in rds 2 -5, they did 4 times between 2nd rd and 3rd.
-they should draft one late and put on practice squad...whatever, 9-16% chance ou f being a starter...who cares.

NEVER have I said they shouldn't draft one. I did say the good bargains are in rds 3 & 4.
And I said in rd 3 the Bill's will likely go EDGE...which they did.
Jones was gone at 72, by their 3rd round pick at 86.
I'd have been very happy if they nabbed him by moving up especially in the 3rd rd...they didn't.
I decided not to go all Beady about it, glad I didn't.
- IonSabres

no but okay

I understand where you're coming from, but we will have to see if they can grow together. They basically had a new online last year with 4 out of 5 being new. Morse was hurt most of camp and then had the concussion. If Williams can get back to form his injuries he is a upgrade at RT and Ford moves into RG. They bring in OL every year.
- Buff36

Our new kicker doing 60 yards easy

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1070083538765180935
- gerbe75pts

Buffalo is probably the hardest place to kick in the NFL.

Distance wise. Yes. Driving time. No.
- buffalofan19

Have you been to a Bills game lately? It takes HOURS to get out of there after a game, sometimes and traffic all around on Sundays is a nightmare, very similar to NYC traffic.

And Derk already said it, no one in NYC drives but Metlife isn't in NYC so I guess it's all a moot point.

U guys got Lock some weapons on offense
- jdfitz77

Elway has had three strong drafts the last three years. Broncos needed to rebuild and we did just that.

We added 2 guys that’ll actually play for us this year, Epenesa & Moss

Sorry, but that’s not an “A” draft

For this season:
R4- practice squad, wr5 at best
R5- qb2 who we hope doesn’t play
R6- a kicker? Ugh
R6- another practice squad wr
R7- depth CB at best

Sure pal, that’s a draft to be psyched about
Meanwhile,
an injury at S or LB could hurt a lot
- jdfitz77

Sometimes you add for hopefully the future, people have been raving about Davis, Fromm will take Barkley's spot, the WR in the 6th will help in the Red Zone hopefully, and people are already saying the CB was a steal in the 7th and probably will replace Johnson. We have a LB they drafted last year Joseph that was on IR and a safety Johnson last year that played a bit. Most pundits said the Bill's had a very good draft. It's not always about the know but thinking to the future also.

no but okay
- BeadyEyedDouche

What

you're saying is WRONG, period.
Next time when being critical, be accurate.
You lose alot of credibility with this stupid post.

My posts were directed at Beadies dreadful posts that moved the premise of his posts literally all over the field. He said
-the Bill's had not drafted OL...wrong, they did 7 times in 6 years.
-they should draft one every year in rds 2 -5, they did 4 times between 2nd rd and 3rd.
-they should draft one late and put on practice squad...whatever, 9-16% chance ou f being a starter...who cares.

NEVER have I said they shouldn't draft one. I did say the good bargains are in rds 3 & 4.
And I said in rd 3 the Bill's will likely go EDGE...which they did.
Jones was gone at 72, by their 3rd round pick at 86.
I'd have been very happy if they nabbed him by moving up especially in the 3rd rd...they didn't.
I decided not to go all Beady about it, glad I didn't.
- IonSabres

April 25th 1:30pm
quote=BeadyEyedDouche]What the hell is wrong with this team, year after year refuses to address the OL in the draft

Lol. No?

You know you are on the losing end and going down very badly when you have to split hairs.
Dude, it has been a terrible 2 day period for you.

I'm not confident after reading that article.

People are blowing their loads over an injury prone UDFA OL but drafting one in the 6th instead of that kicker is just crazy.

At least I'm (frank)ing consistent, holy crap. Some people on here are all over the place.

And I shouldn't have to say this but no, I'm not "coming at you" fitz
- BeadyEyedDouche

I can't believe how long you have fixated on not drafting a 6th round OL. That is waaayyy too much energy to care about a player who might make the practice squad, or most likely be cut.

Sometimes you add for hopefully the future, people have been raving about Davis, Fromm will take Barkley's spot, the WR in the 6th will help in the Red Zone hopefully, and people are already saying the CB was a steal in the 7th and probably will replace Johnson. We have a LB they drafted last year Joseph that was on IR and a safety last year that played a bit. Most pundits said the Bill's had a very good draft. It's not always about the know but thinking to the future also.
- Buff36

We’ll see,
but I’m completely underwhelmed by all the picks after Moss

I don’t think either of the WRs will amount to much, especially Davis
When the only thing u can do is go deep,
4.54 speed is fine when you’re playing against
Tulsa & U Conn
In the NFL though, he’ll never be open deep

And great
Our 7th round “steal” can be our CB6... maybe

Fromm was actually a great value, I’ll give u that.
But we hope he never plays, right??

We’ll see,
but I’m completely underwhelmed by all the picks after Moss

I don’t think either of the WRs will amount to much,
especially Davis
When the only thing u can do is go deep,
4.54 speed is fine when you’re playing against
Tulsa & U Conn
In the NFL though, he’ll never be open deep

And great
Our 7th round “steal” can be our CB6... maybe

Fromm was actually a great value, I’ll give u that.
But we hope he never plays, right??
- jdfitz77

You mean 3rd or 4th CB since Johnson is are starting slot CB. And obviously Beane saw something in Davis, he's been pretty good at evaluating talent. And I hope Fromm doesn't see the field, that means Allen is healthy and doing his job, but he will be a better backup then Barkley if Allen does get hurt.

Come on Bandit, that's completely different.

Punters and kickers are "entirely" different skills? Just, no.

A better comparison is asking a defenseman to play forward or vice-versa and that regularly happens in hockey.

Pat McAfee is a great example. He became the kickoff specialist, the holder for his kicker, and he regularly dropped punts inside the 20. If it wasn't Adam God Damn Vinatieri, he very well could have been kicking field-goals in Indy, too.

If this is the way the NFL is going, I'd be pushing hard to have only 1 kicker on the roster who can do both kicking and punting. The modern NFL should move in this direction, too.

They make millions of dollars. God forbid they can punt and kick.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Kicking a ball far off the ground is one thing, kicking it accurately is another. Another comparison to hockey, Tage Thompson has a cannon, but he can't hit the net. There's a reason the hardest shot and accuracy champion are always different people.

If it was as easy as you're making it sound there would be at least a few teams in the NFL with one guy that did everything. There's not a single one. You don't think teams would love an extra roster spot?

We’ll see,
but I’m completely underwhelmed by all the picks after Moss

I don’t think either of the WRs will amount to much, especially Davis
When the only thing u can do is go deep,
4.54 speed is fine when you’re playing against
Tulsa & U Conn
In the NFL though, he’ll never be open deep

And great
Our 7th round “steal” can be our CB6... maybe

Fromm was actually a great value, I’ll give u that.
But we hope he never plays, right??
- jdfitz77

Getting upset over late round draft picks is stupid. Most don’t become starters. Drafted some positions we could use a flyer on. Maybe that turn out maybe they don’t. I’ll trust Beane he has been above avg in his tenure here.

Went from a joke of NFL to the preseason division favorites in 3 years

um
- IonSabres

Refusing to address the OL means they don't draft them high, they almost NEVER draft a C (Eric Wood the last one?), and they don't properly develop them. It's more than just making the pick, Ion.

Refusing to address the OL means they don't draft them high, they almost NEVER draft a C (Eric Wood the last one?), and they don't properly develop them. It's more than just making the pick, Ion.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Well let's hope another year together will give them some continuity, and they all stay healthy.

I can't believe how long you have fixated on not drafting a 6th round OL. That is waaayyy too much energy to care about a player who might make the practice squad, or most likely be cut.
- GilPerreault11

It's not about the 6th rounder, it's about what positions they drafted. A DE was great and trading that 1st for Diggs was great, but to then go ahead and draft 2 more WR's, when we already have Diggs, Beasly, Brown and about 4 other depth WR's, another RB - yet again, a position you can pick the waiver wire for - another CB - our secondary is one of our strengths, then to trade up for a Kicker is very asinine.

Essentially our draft was:

WR (1st)
DE (2nd)
RB (3rd)
WR (4th)
QB (5th)
K (6th)
WR (6th)
CB (7th)
OL (UDFA)

Looks to me like the philosophy is to surround Josh Allen with skill and hope he can just huck the ball as soon as it's snapped, because we now have like 10 WR's on the team, 3 RB's, 3 QB's no TE's to write home about, regardless of butter fingers emerging last year as a potential 500 yard TE...

Who the hell is going to block for these guys? The 21st ranked OL is all of a sudden going to jump into the top-10?

They waited until after the draft to sign an injury prone OL who is admittedly a monster but a serious question mark, and spent THREE (frank)ing draft picks on WIDE RECEIVERS in this draft, not exactly an area of weakness after the Diggs trade.

Our DL and secondary are strengths as well, but picking a DE in round 2 is a great move regardless... But I question our LB core and it's depth going into next season and we have almost no depth on the Offensive Line still. Scouring Free Agents is fine and all but they have not had a good history of drafting the OL position, and that's the main reason why we missed the playoffs for almost 20 god damn years.

Why you can't seem to understand this is beyond me because it's not exactly complicated and I shouldn't have to sit here explaining myself to you because you clearly don't understand a word I type but with a kindergarten reading level I'm not surprised.

Kicking a ball far off the ground is one thing, kicking it accurately is another. Another comparison to hockey, Tage Thompson has a cannon, but he can't hit the net. There's a reason the hardest shot and accuracy champion are always different people.

If it was as easy as you're making it sound there would be at least a few teams in the NFL with one guy that did everything. There's not a single one. You don't think teams would love an extra roster spot?
- Wetbandit1

I'm not making it sound easy, I'm saying that with all the rule changes regarding kickoffs and extra points, the position needs to evolve going forward, it's called the future.

Why do I have to keep explaining this? I'm saying that the positions should merge and move in this direction with the elimination of onside kicks, moving the extra point back, moving the kickoff forward...

It's pretty obvious that from pee-wee up they should start making sure their K/P can do both if this is the direction the NFL is going.

People thought that running at a ball soccer style was crazy, too, once upon a time.

Why you can't seem to understand this is beyond me because it's not exactly complicated and I shouldn't have to sit here explaining myself to you
- BeadyEyedDouche

You really don't have to.

Well let's hope another year together will give them some continuity, and they all stay healthy.
- Buff36

I don't see how a bottom-10 OL can improve exponentially with no marquee additions.

The 49ers made a huge trade for an OL and still got the guy they wanted to draft.

We whiffed on this draft and we will regress next year if the stars don't line up for us. Allen is going to get killed behind our OL as it currently is constructed.

You really don't have to.
- JetpackJesus

I'm not making it sound easy, I'm saying that with all the rule changes regarding kickoffs and extra points, the position needs to evolve going forward, it's called the future.

Why do I have to keep explaining this? I'm saying that the positions should merge and move in this direction with the elimination of onside kicks, moving the extra point back, moving the kickoff forward...

It's pretty obvious that from pee-wee up they should start making sure their K/P can do both if this is the direction the NFL is going.

People thought that running at a ball soccer style was crazy, too, once upon a time.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You really don't have to.

FYI, Josh Jones could’ve been had without trading up at all. U advocated trading up to get him and been arguing we didn’t need OL help ever since we didn’t have to trade up to get him.

Maybe that should’ve been the pick. Hope Epenesa is good. Morse and Feliciano are the only two on the OL I think are solid. I want a Saints, Ravens, 49ers and Chiefs line. Hope I’m not adding Browns, Dolphins and Jets to the list next year.

I’m

Just

Sayin
- Hatboro_Swords

Dion Dawkins is a solid football player. Big $ guy soon
Cody Ford has great potential

It's not about the 6th rounder, it's about what positions they drafted. A DE was great and trading that 1st for Diggs was great, but to then go ahead and draft 2 more WR's, when we already have Diggs, Beasly, Brown and about 4 other depth WR's, another RB - yet again, a position you can pick the waiver wire for - another CB - our secondary is one of our strengths, then to trade up for a Kicker is very asinine.

Essentially our draft was:

WR (1st)
DE (2nd)
RB (3rd)
WR (4th)
QB (5th)
K (6th)
WR (6th)
CB (7th)
OL (UDFA)

Looks to me like the philosophy is to surround Josh Allen with skill and hope he can just huck the ball as soon as it's snapped, because we now have like 10 WR's on the team, 3 RB's, 3 QB's no TE's to write home about, regardless of butter fingers emerging last year as a potential 500 yard TE...

Who the hell is going to block for these guys? The 21st ranked OL is all of a sudden going to jump into the top-10?

They waited until after the draft to sign an injury prone OL who is admittedly a monster but a serious question mark, and spent THREE (frank)ing draft picks on WIDE RECEIVERS in this draft, not exactly an area of weakness after the Diggs trade.

Our DL and secondary are strengths as well, but picking a DE in round 2 is a great move regardless... But I question our LB core and it's depth going into next season and we have almost no depth on the Offensive Line still. Scouring Free Agents is fine and all but they have not had a good history of drafting the OL position, and that's the main reason why we missed the playoffs for almost 20 god damn years.

Why you can't seem to understand this is beyond me because it's not exactly complicated and I shouldn't have to sit here explaining myself to you because you clearly don't understand a word I type but with a kindergarten reading level I'm not surprised.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I really don't understand why you say somethings, you complain about the Bill's not drafting Oline to develop, but they do that with other positions WR,CB to develop but it's stupid. Other then that RT Nietchke(spelled wrong) every one else is 28 or younger. With the UDFA they signed they have 5 developmental Oline on the roster know. I know what you're trying to say but you only have so many spots.