navinrjohnson
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Completely different game.
Played on a grass field, and Scott Norwood wasn't ever a good kicker,. - BeadyEyedDouche
yet he made the pro bowl
not your best argument
I expected more |
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navinrjohnson
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I'm really sick of the lot of you being literal socially retarded and having no reading comprehension. - BeadyEyedDouche
I am really sick of your bad posts
SUCK IT BEADY |
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adambuffalo
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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Jordan Schultz
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OL Trey Adams is signing with the #Bills, per source. Adams was a potential Day 2 pick prior to injury issues earlier in his collegiate career. |
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navinrjohnson
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Jordan Schultz
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OL Trey Adams is signing with the #Bills, per source. Adams was a potential Day 2 pick prior to injury issues earlier in his collegiate career. - adambuffalo
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sbroads24
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yet he made the pro bowl
not your best argument
I expected more - navinrjohnson
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Buff36
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I'm almost positive the OL on a Field goal has a long-snapper and depth OL on it to prevent injury to your starters but I'm not entirely sure here - Photographic evidence points to non-starting OL, a LS and some DL from what I can tell. Numbers are all different. I can't find the make-up of a field goal unit atm. - BeadyEyedDouche
Maybe change Ferguson with Morse on FG's, but most teams only dress 7 or 8 Olinemen on gamedays, so would be difficult to change them all out. |
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adambuffalo
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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Old Blog
There's not a new one. Just pointing out that this one is old. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Drafting a kicker is absolutely bonkers, IMO.
They are a dime a dozen, there's dozens available as UDFA's and wasting a draft pick on a kicker when you could at least try to develop an OL on the practice squad is just non-sense.
Our OL has been an issue for years and I see regression from our current group, in all honesty. They haven't bolstered it at all. - BeadyEyedDouche
It's a 6th rounder and the best kicker in the draft lol |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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In a $15B industry called the NFL, with 32 organizations competing for every win, and with 20%+/- of each win being within 1-3 points, kicking is pretty important.
As PAT and field goal distances increase, the value of having a consistent and accurate field goal kicker has increased in terms of wins. Because the league is moving towards reducing kick-offs does not mean a kicker is less important, and therefore the role should be merged in with its distant cousin.
In fact, finding one who can consistently nail 50 yarders while also landing kick-offs between the 1 - 5 yards line would suggest the opposite and therefore should lead to higher specialization rather than a hybrid. |
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Beady does have a point in that the O-line needs an upgrade based upon last season as PFF ranked that group 21st. The offense was ranked 23rd, with a passing game ranked 26th and a running game ranked 8th at Pro Football Reference.
However. Would a 6th rounder make a difference in those rankings? Any moreso than a 7th rounder or UDFA
Methinks anything is possible but a situation like that leans heavily towards improbable. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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The more I read, do you read what you write, you really make yourself sound like a idiot. - Buff36
Only thing worse than beady's hockey takes:
His football takes
Bill's had a great draft. Every pick , including the diggs trade fits perfect. The draft is about replacing expensive current players with younger, cheaper guys.
See ya:
2nd. Murphy/ hughes next year
3rd Gore ( maybe) or yeldon
4th Brown or beasley next year
5th Matt Barkley next year
6th House money
6th
7th Isaiah Mackenzie
8th cb depth
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The Don
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I'm almost positive the OL on a Field goal has a long-snapper and depth OL on it to prevent injury to your starters but I'm not entirely sure here - Photographic evidence points to non-starting OL, a LS and some DL from what I can tell. Numbers are all different. I can't find the make-up of a field goal unit atm. - BeadyEyedDouche
This may have been mentioned already, but some of the reason for the change in personal on special teams is creating more efficient practices. Using different personal allows both units to practice simultaneously.
I think I even recall coaches talking about the importance of a different punter and field goal kicker to maximize practice time as well. It has been used as excuse as to why they sign a replacement player when their is an injury instead of just having someone do double duty.
But what do I know, I'm just a fan and not in the business. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Jordan Schultz
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OL Trey Adams is signing with the #Bills, per source. Adams was a potential Day 2 pick prior to injury issues earlier in his collegiate career. - adambuffalo
Lol they take the guy that has a small penis ..damn |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Beady does have a point in that the O-line needs an upgrade based upon last season as PFF ranked that group 21st. The offense was ranked 23rd, with a passing game ranked 26th and a running game ranked 8th at Pro Football Reference.
However. Would a 6th rounder make a difference in those rankings? Any moreso than a 7th rounder or UDFA
Methinks anything is possible but a situation like that leans heavily towards improbable. - Michael Pachla
There are ways to improve the line other than through the draft.
If one goes the draft route, and looking to find above average starters, then those picks should be made in rounds 1 or 2 as that is where the gold is.
If the objective is to find capable starters, rounds 3 & 4 are where it at.
FA signings tend to reduce the risk as most are already starting quality...but you're paying more for them |
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Lol they take the guy that has a small penis ..damn - gerbe75pts
???
I must be missing something |
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Boss34
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Interesting position taken by Beady last night on drafting OL.
The premiss of the argument moved quite a bit during the evening, night and early AM
- initially it was the Bill's haven't addressed the O-line through the draft
- asked to clarify, it became the Bill's should draft at least one between rds 2-5
- then, when evidenced was provided the Bill's had done that for 5 of the last 6 years it moved to the Bill's O-line sucks and the Bill's should draft 2 each year
-- from there it migrated to the players on the Bill's O-line are average.
- then to the Bills should use selections in later rounds on the O-line to develop them on the practice squad
Not sure what the beef was really, but it is interesting that OL position is one of the safest picks when evaluating success based on the player picked becoming a starter for at least 50% of his career.
It was found that most OL selections were made in the later rounds; 7, 6, 5th but those had low success rates of 9%, 16% and 16% respectfully. The magic really happens in rounds 3 and 4 when the raw number of picks increases from just an average of 5 each in rounds 1 & 2 AND the success rate is very good compared to other positions with 40% and 29% in 3 and 4 ( 25% for WR, 16% for RB in rd 3). Picks in rounds 1 & 2 have very high success rates of 83% and 70%...just not alot taken.
In general, I agree that OL are good picks in the middle rounds, especially needing 5 (45%) on the field every offensive play. I disagree that in general the Bill's have not addressed the O-line in the draft, they have. They have also preferred to address it via FA selecting guys who have already met the threshold of starting more than 50% of their career, so theoretically they have selected from a better pool of talent overall.
The "take" is rated as FALSE. - IonSabres
Good take ion
I've always liked ufa lineman. Guys a bit older. O line is one of the more difficult positions to play in football. Need to be smart to learn blocking schemes ect.
Comes with experience.
I liked the purchase of Morse for example at center.
Smart veteran |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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I must be missing something - Michael Pachla
consider the source
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There are ways to improve the line other than through the draft.
If one goes the draft route, and looking to find above average starters, then those picks should be made in rounds 1 or 2 as that is where the gold is.
If the objective is to find capable starters, rounds 3 & 4 are where it at.
FA signings tend to reduce the risk as most are already starting quality...but you're paying more for them - IonSabres
Agreed. The O-line might be the "easiest" and most cost-effective area to upgrade via free agency. |
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IonSabres
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Only thing worse than beady's hockey takes:
His football takes
Bill's had a great draft. Every pick , including the diggs trade fits perfect. The draft is about replacing expensive current players with younger, cheaper guys.
See ya:
2nd. Murphy/ hughes next year
3rd Gore ( maybe) or yeldon
4th Brown or beasley next year
5th Matt Barkley next year
6th House money
6th
7th Isaiah Mackenzie
8th cb depth - Boss34
I don't disagree, yet it is valid for 2021 that the O-line needs an upgrade, replacing R-T will be needed, assuming Ford replaces R-G. |
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gerbe75pts
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I must be missing something - Michael Pachla
You don't remember him ? This is the guy a GM leaked his answer to every one about how he wants a bigger Richard..
had the worst combine ever .. lots of people said he be a top prospect but he got fat and surgery's took everything away
He's definitely a buffalo guy hope he makes it |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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In my senior year i had to kick and punt for my high school football team.
If you think doing both are so correlated, try doing it and let me know how good you are at both.
I wasn’t good at either but I was the best option on the team at that point. - Pegullaville
110 yard field? |
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You don't remember him ? This is the guy a GM leaked his answer to every one about how he wants a bigger Richard..
had the worst combine ever .. lots of people said he be a top prospect but he got fat and surgery's took everything away
He's definitely a buffalo guy hope he makes it - gerbe75pts
Have no idea what you're talking about. Must have been fishing |
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Boss34
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I don't disagree, yet it is valid for 2021 that the O-line needs an upgrade, replacing R-T will be needed, assuming Ford replaces R-G. - IonSabres
So: i don't disagree= I agree?
Purchase o line help via free agency.
Or trade for help.
We're way under the cap.
Draft : qb, edge rusher and cb.
That's the formula
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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110 yard field? - Boss34
Yes sir.
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