I guess with the way the NFL is going, they should probably get rid of TEs as well. WRs should be able to play TE as well.
- adambuffalo

I’m surprised the Chiefs drafted CEH in the first round this year when they could have just put Tyreek Hill at RB.

I mean WR and RB both run right.

New England took a kicker one round earlier and prior to drafting any OL. That franchise is just horrible. They could have easily just signed an undrafted free agent.

Very good. The other two were cabinet members for Dwight D. Eisenhower
- jcragcrumple

I appreciate the humour you’ve been bringing to these threads the past couple of months.

Might not see eye to eye on a variety of topics but I’ve gotten a good chuckle

I guess with the way the NFL is going, they should probably get rid of TEs as well. WRs should be able to play TE as well.
- adambuffalo

If these players weren't such pussies they would be playing both ways in today's NFL

If these players weren't such pussies they would be playing both ways in today's NFL
- Buff36

Yeah, a bunch of high school kids do it, so they should be able to in the NFL as well. Beady Logic.

And I'm positive there's more than a few High Schools that have a guy kicking and punting in this country.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Bill's had a good draft, the only thing I think they missed was LB. But hopefully Joseph is fully recovered cause that could offset that.

A lot of praise going around for Jackson, people are saying a steal at 239

I appreciate the humour you’ve been bringing to these threads the past couple of months.

Might not see eye to eye on a variety of topics but I’ve gotten a good chuckle
- Pegullaville

Aw shucks

Kicking off a tee is actually a lot different from kicking off the ground.

Punting is a different range of motion as well.
- Pegullaville

You are very astute.

I guess with the way the NFL is going, they should probably get rid of TEs as well. WRs should be able to play TE as well.
- adambuffalo

Dude, you're honestly (frank)ing stupid.

TE has always been a bigger player who is basically a hybrid OL/WR. Why do I have to explain this?

I'm really sick of the lot of you being literal socially retarded and having no reading comprehension.

No, but a kicker isn't going to change a god damn thing. Especially with the extra points pushed back and the kickoff moved up. FFS, a lot of punters end up being kickoff specialists.

Why not draft a guy who can both punt and kick? Why isn't there a player who can do both? Why waste a draft pick on a complete specialist position?

You need OL in multiple situations, not just your front 5 on downs 1-3, but an entire line on a field-goal or punt as well.

Drafting a kicker is always just a waste of a pick. Would this guy have really gone off the board? Was he really so important we traded up for him?

It makes no sense.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Well they don't change out there line for Field goals, and I don't know what your watching, but don't use lineman on the punt team. But could be reading your post wrong.

I'm really sick of the lot of you being literal socially retarded and having no reading comprehension.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Lol.
Beady, your take was literally all over the friggin board for 7 hours last night.
But yes, blame it on everyone else because your position drifted in various directions no one with a brain could make sense of it.

Check your micro dosing levels and come back when you are sane.

You are very astute.
- BeadyEyedDouche

In my senior year i had to kick and punt for my high school football team.

If you think doing both are so correlated, try doing it and let me know how good you are at both.

I wasn’t good at either but I was the best option on the team at that point.

Lol.
Beady, your take was literally all over the friggin board for 7 hours last night.
But yes, blame it on everyone else because your position drifted in various directions no one with a brain could make sense of it.

Check your micro dosing levels and come back when you are sane.
- IonSabres

Sorry I try to discuss things and engage with people, you're right, I'm the idiot. As if I'm coming on here saying I speak Gospel.

So frustrating.

In my senior year i had to kick and punt for my high school football team.

If you think doing both are so correlated, try doing it and let me know how good you are at both.

I wasn’t good at either but I was the best option on the team at that point.
- Pegullaville

I didn't say this holy poop dude, I literally said kickers should become MORE of a specialist and learn how to do both.

I've played Football my entire life. It's not hard to kick or punt and if you do it for a living making millions of dollars, why is it so much to ask?

Are you confused by a RB who can also catch passes? Does that guy down in Carolina blow your mind or did the position have to become hybrid in order to survive?

Do you actually think at all?

I didn't say this holy poop dude, I literally said kickers should become MORE of a specialist and learn how to do both.

I've played Football my entire life. It's not hard to kick or punt and if you do it for a living making millions of dollars, why is it so much to ask?

Are you confused by a RB who can also catch passes? Does that guy down in Carolina blow your mind or did the position have to become hybrid in order to survive?

Do you actually think at all?
- BeadyEyedDouche

Sure, and if McCaffrey was a good enough route runner he would exclusively be a WR. Instead he’s a RB who is able to catch passes out of the backfield.

John Brown throws a pretty deep ball but I don’t think you’ll be lining him up under center even if he could possibly do both.

I’m sure there are many kickers who could also punt, but there are reasons why you have a kicker and a punter (because they are the top percentile in what they do).

Should the Ravens cut Justin Tucker if their punter was also an average field goal kicker ?

Well they don't change out there line for Field goals, and I don't know what your watching, but don't use lineman on the punt team. But could be reading your post wrong.
- Buff36

I'm almost positive the OL on a Field goal has a long-snapper and depth OL on it to prevent injury to your starters but I'm not entirely sure here - Photographic evidence points to non-starting OL, a LS and some DL from what I can tell. Numbers are all different. I can't find the make-up of a field goal unit atm.

Sure, and if McCaffrey was a good enough route runner he would exclusively be a WR. Instead he’s a RB who is able to catch passes out of the backfield.

John Brown throws a pretty deep ball but I don’t think you’ll be lining him up under center even if he could possibly do both.

I’m sure there are many kickers who could also punt, but there are reasons why you have a kicker and a punter (because they are the top percentile in what they do).

Should the Ravens cut Justin Tucker if their punter was also an average field goal kicker ?
- Pegullaville

Reading comprehension.

I'm L I T E R A L L Y saying the NFL should move in this direction going forward if they're going to make the K position less and less important.

It's the start of a new decade - with that come changes. Just like in the 90's the RB position became a hybrid runner/catcher in order to survive, I'm saying with the direction the rules are going, I'd start looking to hybridize the position, lobby it to the NFL and only spend 1 roster spot on a kicker for your 53-man roster.

It's simply not that important anymore and kickers should learn how to punt in order to make themselves more valuable.

How can I explain this any (frank)ing clearer dude?

How many teams have one kicker doing both jobs? What happens if the one kicker you have gets hurt? The punter that they picked up in January can also take longer field goals, so he is more of a hybrid. Kicking field goals however is definitely a different skill set than punting.
- adambuffalo

'member when Randal Cunningham was also doing punts?

Morning, fellas.

What's the mood of the Bills fans? Did the weekend go well?

Wow, mind = blown.

The NFL doesn't have a developmental league. A depth player is more important than a kicker.

There are an average of 5 specialists picked every season in the NFL. I don't want to be one of those teams when we have way bigger issues than a kicker.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You are seriously good at being a moron

Reading comprehension.

I'm L I T E R A L L Y saying the NFL should move in this direction going forward if they're going to make the K position less and less important.

It's the start of a new decade - with that come changes. Just like in the 90's the RB position became a hybrid runner/catcher in order to survive, I'm saying with the direction the rules are going, I'd start looking to hybridize the position, lobby it to the NFL and only spend 1 roster spot on a kicker for your 53-man roster.

It's simply not that important anymore and kickers should learn how to punt in order to make themselves more valuable.

How can I explain this any (frank)ing clearer dude?
- BeadyEyedDouche

So taking measures to protect the health and safety of players during one phase of special teams (kick offs) devalues the position as a whole ?

I'm almost positive the OL on a Field goal has a long-snapper and depth OL on it to prevent injury to your starters but I'm not entirely sure here - Photographic evidence points to non-starting OL, a LS and some DL from what I can tell. Numbers are all different. I can't find the make-up of a field goal unit atm.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Probably should get rid of the long snapper as well. Your center should be a to take over that role. If the league is moving in that direction, then they should make the center learn to snap the ball a little further. I'm sure there are high schoolers doing it all over the country.

I'm saying with the direction the rules are going, I'd start looking to hybridize the position, lobby it to the NFL and only spend 1 roster spot on a kicker for your 53-man roster.

It's simply not that important anymore and kickers should learn how to punt in order to make themselves more valuable.

How can I explain this any (frank)ing clearer dude?
- BeadyEyedDouche

You still haven't presented a solution if your hybrid kicker gets hurt.

You still haven't presented a solution if your hybrid kicker gets hurt.
- adambuffalo

Um only draft middle linebackers who kicked in middle school.