Pippen was excellent. LeBron is in a different stratosphere.
- kingcong39

Lebron is the goat. It’s not remotely close.

He’s the best all around player ever.

I loved Kobe but he was over rated, especially later in his career.

NO ONE in the history of the game has played at the level Lebron has, for as long as he has, and has been as durable as he has.

NO ONE. It’s not a debate

Lebron is the goat. It’s not remotely close.

He’s the best all around player ever.

I loved Kobe but he was over rated, especially later in his career.

NO ONE in the history of the game has played at the level Lebron has, for as long as he has, and has been as durable as he has.

NO ONE. It’s not a debate
- sbroads24

15 straight years, like a machine.

NO ONE in the history of the game has played at the level Lebron has, for as long as he has, and has been as durable as he has.

NO ONE. It’s not a debate
- sbroads24

fake news

Lebron is the goat. It’s not remotely close.

He’s the best all around player ever.

I loved Kobe but he was over rated, especially later in his career.

NO ONE in the history of the game has played at the level Lebron has, for as long as he has, and has been as durable as he has.

NO ONE. It’s not a debate
- sbroads24

It actually is a debate and the people that cover the game generally disagree with you.

If I’m starting a team and have the 1st pick in a history player draft, Lebron may not be in my top 5.

1.Jordan
2.Shaq


After that it it gets murky. Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Kareem, Bird, Russell, and Magic all get jumbled together.

I read an article on the coming explosion of electric cars and TaaS (transportation as a service) and using self driven electric cars to do it ...your thoughts?

I'm not a trader at all, other than a 401k and some other investments with an online broker I'm not doing anything on my own.
- joevthree

To make a long story short, it’s an appealing industry.

I was investing in a company called Ballard Power Systems in late 2019 that made me a couple dollars. They are a hydrogen fuel cell company and I may be touching a different subject but they are in that Electrical Components & Equipment industry.

It would ultimately depend on the company and timing of the investment.

Palladium saw a huge rise in the last few years in the precious metals sector for that very reason as it is used in a lot of electrical components.

15 straight years, like a machine.
- kingcong39

bill russell 11 time champion
12 time all star
5 time mvp


kobe 5 time champion
18 time all star

abdul jabbar
6 time champion
6 time mvp
19 all star


jordan
6 time champion
5 time mvp
14 all star


lebron
3 time champion
4 time mvp
16 time all star



I could go on


it's only a slam dunk for lebron if you disregard what you never saw

It actually is a debate and the people that cover the game generally disagree with you.

If I’m starting a team and have the 1st pick in a history player draft, Lebron may not be in my top 5.

1.Jordan
2.Shaq


After that it it gets murky. Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Kareem, Bird, Russell, and Magic all get jumbled together.
- dadeadhead

throw duncan, west, robertson, cousy, havlicek, olajuwon and hayes in the mix

throw duncan, west, robertson, cousy, havlicek, olajuwon and hayes in the mix
- navinrjohnson

Exactly

King james is the best ever
- gerbe75pts

you never saw Jordan play, did you?

bill russell 11 time champion
12 time all star
5 time mvp


kobe 5 time champion
18 time all star

abdul jabbar
6 time champion
6 time mvp
19 all star


jordan
6 time champion
5 time mvp
14 all star


lebron
3 time champion
4 time mvp
16 time all star



I could go on


it's only a slam dunk for lebron if you disregard what you never saw
- navinrjohnson

I missed where Lebron was retired and not still playing at an MVP caliber level

It actually is a debate and the people that cover the game generally disagree with you.

If I’m starting a team and have the 1st pick in a history player draft, Lebron may not be in my top 5.

1.Jordan
2.Shaq


After that it it gets murky. Lebron, Kobe, Wilt, Kareem, Bird, Russell, and Magic all get jumbled together.
- dadeadhead

Tim Duncan was either first or second all D team for 15 of his seasons, to boot

I missed where Lebron was retired and not still playing at an MVP caliber level
- sbroads24

did you see any of them play in their prime?


other then kobe?

did you see any of them play in their prime?


other then kobe?
- navinrjohnson

Did you see the competition they played against compared to now?

It’s a different league.


If people like Jordan better, cool.

But he’s the only one who is remotely close statistically as a better all around player.

Lebron can score like them and pass like Magic. And also defend any position on the floor.

Another delusional post as per usual.

Sorry bud but you’re as wrong as wrong could be. I respect your opinion but it’s a skewed view.

I’ve watched them both play and honestly, I’d take Kobe over him 10 out of 10 times. It’s sad people just go MJ or James.

The conversation is MJ or Kobe and even that one isn’t even close.
- dadeadhead

i'd put kobe top-5 at best....

Jordan, for me, tops the list followed closely by 'Bron...the big 'O' is in there along with Dr. J.

then it gets kinda tricky as players like Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem, Iverson, elgin baylor, bird and magic all vie for 5-10 along with kobe...hell, for those who saw jerry west in his prime, they thought enough of him to make him the player on the nba logo...he was up their with the best of them..

LeBron had the defensive accolades for quite a long time as well until he got older. Hell, he had one of the greatest blocks in playoff history when the Cavs won game 7 in Golden State.

I was a big Pippen fan. He isn't close to LeBron in terms of overall ability and performance.

Older does not automatically mean better.
- kingcong39

Bron has excelled in an all-around game for much of his career...he literally carried those cavs teams deep into the playoffs and eventually to the championship...hell, in 2015 he almost pulled off a miracle when he took the warriors to game-6 of the finals without love for the entire series and without kyrie for games 2-6...

People over look how great Pippen was. When Jordan left in 93, Pippen put the team on his back and had a 55 win season. The next season he led the team in points, rebounds, assist, blocks, and steals and finished 3rd in the MVP voting. At the time the only person to do that was Dave Cowen.
- dadeadhead

however...

Lebron is the goat. It’s not remotely close.

He’s the best all around player ever.

I loved Kobe but he was over rated, especially later in his career.

NO ONE in the history of the game has played at the level Lebron has, for as long as he has, and has been as durable as he has.

NO ONE. It’s not a debate
- sbroads24

sure it is

i'd put kobe top-5 at best....

Jordan, for me, tops the list followed closely by 'Bron...the big 'O' is in there along with Dr. J.

then it gets kinda tricky as players like Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem, Iverson, elgin baylor, bird and magic all vie for 5-10 along with kobe...hell, for those who saw jerry west in his prime, they thought enough of him to make him the player on the nba logo...he was up their with the best of them..
- Michael Pachla

That’s my point. The older guys have always paid their respects for the players that came before them. That moment where Lebron said “That play right there is where I became the GOAT” turned me off to anything he ever does. The fvck out of here that play made you the GOAT.

Love checking every day to see if we made to last place on HB front page......what a once proud blog site we were.....😫

To make a long story short, it’s an appealing industry.

I was investing in a company called Ballard Power Systems in late 2019 that made me a couple dollars. They are a hydrogen fuel cell company and I may be touching a different subject but they are in that Electrical Components & Equipment industry.

It would ultimately depend on the company and timing of the investment.

Palladium saw a huge rise in the last few years in the precious metals sector for that very reason as it is used in a lot of electrical components.
- Pegullaville

wow...what a ride they had in the late 90's/very early 00's...then a collapse and stagnation for nearly two decades...

wonder what gives?

That’s my point. The older guys have always paid their respects for the players that came before them. That moment where Lebron said “That play right there is where I became the GOAT” turned me off to anything he ever does. The fvck out of here that play made you the GOAT.
- dadeadhead

It’s because half of them played against 5’11 plumbers..... the league isn’t the same.

That’s my point. The older guys have always paid their respects for the players that came before them. That moment where Lebron said “That play right there is where I became the GOAT” turned me off to anything he ever does. The fvck out of here that play made you the GOAT.
- dadeadhead

LMAO, wait until you here what an awful person MJ is

bill russell 11 time champion
12 time all star
5 time mvp


kobe 5 time champion
18 time all star

abdul jabbar
6 time champion
6 time mvp
19 all star


jordan
6 time champion
5 time mvp
14 all star


lebron
3 time champion
4 time mvp
16 time all star



I could go on


it's only a slam dunk for lebron if you disregard what you never saw
- navinrjohnson

it's close to a slam dunk argument...I've watched him on a nightly basis in both his cavs stints...dude was phenomenal and carried the team through much of those stretches

Did you see the competition they played against compared to now?

It’s a different league.


If people like Jordan better, cool.

But he’s the only one who is remotely close statistically as a better all around player.

Lebron can score like them and pass like Magic. And also defend any position on the floor.
- sbroads24

you're overrating the talent in the league

it's close to a slam dunk argument...I've watched him on a nightly basis in both his cavs stints...dude was phenomenal and carried the team through much of those stretches
- Michael Pachla

It’s really simple

Cavs before Lebron- worst in the league

Cavs with Lebron’s first stint - eventual finals team

Cavs when Lebron leaves - Worst in the league

Cavs when Lebron comes back - 4 straight finals appearances

Cavs when Lebron leaves again - worst in the league