I don't know about the food chain breaking, but ive' been seeing and hearing things about the supply chain being geared towards the commercial side of things... for some reason unbeknownst to me, can't funnel what they processed for restaurants, etc. to the retail, grocery market
- Michael Pachla

Again that's at the procsesing level. The data is actually showing that people are eating more food because they are home more hours of the day. They problem is they cant get it the way they want it because it isn't processed that way.

In 1982 when I worked at KFC, a case of chicken contained 24 bags of chicken pieces, each bag had pieces of 2 birds. The restaurant used all the pieces. I think commercial chicken is sitll processed that way.

At the grocery store, people not only don't want to buy 48 birds in a case, they also don't want to buy all the pieces from 2 birds in a bag - they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

The processing plant is where these packaging decisions are made, and it while it would take some modification, the processing can be done differently relatively quickly. The problem is they are having a hard time getting humans to run the machines.

Packaging mostly.
- Wetbandit1

I figured that, but wasn't sure...I guess refitting everything would be more expensive and time consuming than throwing it away?

I was at the 1996-97 (I think) Derek Plante game 7 OT goal.

The way my brain remembers it now it took 10 seconds for it to dribble in
- sbroads24

Pretty awesome. That would be a good series for them to show.

Again that's at the procsesing level. The data is actually showing that people are eating more food because they are home more hours of the day. They problem is they cant get it the way they want it because it isn't processed that way.

In 1982 when I worked at KFC, a case of chicken contained 24 bags of chicken pieces, each bag had pieces of 2 birds. The restaurant used all the pieces. I think commercial chicken is sitll processed that way.

At the grocery store, people not only don't want to buy 48 birds in a case, they also don't want to buy all the pieces from 2 birds in a bag - they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

The processing plant is where these packaging decisions are made, and it while it would take some modification, the processing can be done differently relatively quickly. The problem is they are having a hard time getting humans to run the machines.
- Der Kaiser

When I worked in pizza places chicken and chicken wings came in 40lb cases containing 4 10lb bags. Tomato sauce as the base for pizza sauce came by the gallon, same with dressings and blue cheese, ground beef came in 10lb packages. Veggies came loose from a wholesaler, so at least they could be redirected to grocery stores.

Again that's at the procsesing level. The data is actually showing that people are eating more food because they are home more hours of the day. They problem is they cant get it the way they want it because it isn't processed that way.

In 1982 when I worked at KFC, a case of chicken contained 24 bags of chicken pieces, each bag had pieces of 2 birds. The restaurant used all the pieces. I think commercial chicken is sitll processed that way.

At the grocery store, people not only don't want to buy 48 birds in a case, they also don't want to buy all the pieces from 2 birds in a bag - they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

The processing plant is where these packaging decisions are made, and it while it would take some modification, the processing can be done differently relatively quickly. The problem is they are having a hard time getting humans to run the machines.
- Der Kaiser

I haven't heard about the labor shortage...i'd assume that processing plants would be considered essential businesses...then again, who the hell knows?

Again that's at the procsesing level. The data is actually showing that people are eating more food because they are home more hours of the day. They problem is they cant get it the way they want it because it isn't processed that way.

In 1982 when I worked at KFC, a case of chicken contained 24 bags of chicken pieces, each bag had pieces of 2 birds. The restaurant used all the pieces. I think commercial chicken is sitll processed that way.

At the grocery store, people not only don't want to buy 48 birds in a case, they also don't want to buy all the pieces from 2 birds in a bag - they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

The processing plant is where these packaging decisions are made, and it while it would take some modification, the processing can be done differently relatively quickly. The problem is they are having a hard time getting humans to run the machines.
- Der Kaiser

I was out your way and went to Henrietta Hots for a plate

How is that nonsense. Commercial and Grocery have two separate supply chains, it's quite complex. Our country eats outside of our home more than we eat in our home and that is why the food supply chain leans more towards commercial, especially fresh food. .
- buffalokb

They banned churches from doing drive though communion during this chaos, which goes against our bill of rights. Reason behind it is fear of spreading virus. Reality is there is no tax money collected from church. McDonald's is still serving big macs made in crowded kitchens and states are getting their taxes.

I haven't heard about the labor shortage...i'd assume that processing plants would be considered essential businesses...then again, who the hell knows?
- Michael Pachla

They are essential, but the people aren't going to work because they are getting sick even though they're in those big beautiful states where we don't have any problem and we don't need the stay home orders.

- they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

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- Der Kaiser

are you breast or thigh guy?

When I worked in pizza places chicken and chicken wings came in 40lb cases containing 4 10lb bags. Tomato sauce as the base for pizza sauce came by the gallon, same with dressings and blue cheese, ground beef came in 10lb packages. Veggies came loose from a wholesaler, so at least they could be redirected to grocery stores.
- Wetbandit1

I do some of my shopping at a Gordon food service retail outlet...they service restaurants but also sell to the public. Everything is in large increments although the one thing I did notice was that they do break up chicken into parts like you'd see in a grocery store...needless to say, that stuff was gone

They banned churches from doing drive though communion during this chaos, which goes against our bill of rights. Reason behind it is fear of spreading virus. Reality is there is no tax money collected from church. McDonald's is still serving big macs made in crowded kitchens and states are getting their taxes.
- homiedclown

Can people buy food at home?


Can people pray at home?

are you breast or thigh guy?
- homiedclown

All the flavor is in dark meat.

You men eat your dinners, eat your pork and beans.
I eat more chicken any man ever seen. Oh YEAH!

They are essential, but the people aren't going to work because they are getting sick even though they're in those big beautiful states where we don't have any problem and we don't need the stay home orders.
- Der Kaiser

I won't dispute that as at least being a decent part of the reason

Can people buy food at home?


Can people pray at home?
- Der Kaiser

missing the point here

I won't dispute that as at least being a decent part of the reason
- Michael Pachla

The bottle is getting short and I'm a bit hyped up.

I figured that, but wasn't sure...I guess refitting everything would be more expensive and time consuming than throwing it away?
- Michael Pachla

With things like TP, commercial stuff comes in giant rolls, and is of a generally lower quality. The consumer industry operates at near 100% capacity with 3 shifts in normal times. It costs a poopload of money to just have spare capacity. Just like with ventilators which at the cheapest are like $5K. We're going to need a re-think for sure, especially with non-perishables. Are we going to have a stockpile to get through a short-term interruption/demand shift? Or are we going to force companies to have contingency plans to quickly, on the order of weeks, not months or longer, re-tool?

All the flavor is in dark meat.

You men eat your dinners, eat your pork and beans.
I eat more chicken any man ever seen. Oh YEAH!
- Der Kaiser

aldis has killer boneless thighs


super easy to season and cook on the grill

Again that's at the procsesing level. The data is actually showing that people are eating more food because they are home more hours of the day. They problem is they cant get it the way they want it because it isn't processed that way.

In 1982 when I worked at KFC, a case of chicken contained 24 bags of chicken pieces, each bag had pieces of 2 birds. The restaurant used all the pieces. I think commercial chicken is sitll processed that way.

At the grocery store, people not only don't want to buy 48 birds in a case, they also don't want to buy all the pieces from 2 birds in a bag - they want to buy all thighs, or all wings, or all breasts (or a whole chicken).

The processing plant is where these packaging decisions are made, and it while it would take some modification, the processing can be done differently relatively quickly. The problem is they are having a hard time getting humans to run the machines.
- Der Kaiser

So, most large grocery stores have meat, seafood, deli, et. Sections that package food all day.
Could they not re-package that case of chicken into retail sized packages for their consumers. I realize that is a subsection of items, but WTF....toilet paper...breakdown the case of 400 rolls into packages of 12 with plastic wrap. Local grocery stores with local jobs / labor.

missing the point here
- homiedclown

Restaurants are open because that's where people go to get food.

You don't have to go to a church to pray.

missing the point here
- homiedclown

I really don't thing jesus would mind church-going humans taking one on the chin in the service of others (as in keeping the virus from spreading)...that's what he taught

that said, you make a valid point...perhaps we should start taxing churches

They banned churches from doing drive though communion during this chaos, which goes against our bill of rights. Reason behind it is fear of spreading virus. Reality is there is no tax money collected from church. McDonald's is still serving big macs made in crowded kitchens and states are getting their taxes.
- homiedclown

My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins.

Restaurants are open because that's where people go to get food.

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- Der Kaiser

disagree

I really don't thing jesus would mind church-going humans taking one on the chin in the service of others (as in keeping the virus from spreading)...that's what he taught

that said, you make a valid point...perhaps we should start taxing churches
- Michael Pachla

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.





disregard that, to try to keep people apart, but cram 10 kids making 10 bucks an hour in a 8 by 8 kitchen to keep serving cheap food and bring in taxes

So, most large grocery stores have meat, seafood, deli, et. Sections that package food all day.
Could they not re-package that case of chicken into retail sized packages for their consumers. I realize that is a subsection of items, but WTF....toilet paper...breakdown the case of 400 rolls into packages of 12 with plastic wrap. Local grocery stores with local jobs / labor.
- IonSabres

Grocery stores are mostly just fancy warehouses. They don't want to do the processing, they just want to move the inventory as fast as possible.

The profit margins are too thin at 3 and 4 % for them to spend more time on packaging etc.

In fact, Wegmans incredible success is that they have worked contrary to this general business model in finishing the food at the store, increasing the convenience for two income families, so the families go there by default, buying all of the other stuff that isn't finsished, but paying the same markup. And because Wegman's adds another 1 to 1.5% to its margins across the board as a convenience premium, they do very very well.

aldis has killer boneless thighs


super easy to season and cook on the grill
- homiedclown

I’ve had steak like 4 times since this started.