Fitz I can't believe you are seriously saying that well and house liquor give you the same hangovers...

No, just no.

There's a huge difference in the purity of higher grade liquor than with low-end stuff, come on man.

Wine is the true scam - Most wine is more or less the same, the price goes up when you harvest less grapes and let people glean your crops - seriously look into it. The most "esteemed" wine makers can charge higher prices as long as they harvest only a certain percentage of their vineyard.

Fitz I can't believe you are seriously saying that well and house liquor give you the same hangovers...

No, just no.

There's a huge difference in the purity of higher grade liquor than with low-end stuff, come on man.

Wine is the true scam - Most wine is more or less the same, the price goes up when you harvest less grapes and let people glean your crops - seriously look into it. The most "esteemed" wine makers can charge higher prices as long as they harvest only a certain percentage of their vineyard.
- BeadyEyedDouche

what's eliminated during the purifying process that makes your hangover less with premium products?

and...

dude, there is a difference in wines

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- Hatboro_Swords

Thank you sir!

what's eliminated during the purifying process that makes your hangover less with premium products?

and...

dude, there is a difference in wines
- Michael Pachla

There's always going to be bad wine but I have watched a documentary on it, taken mandatory courses while serving at a private club, done some of my own reading and research...

Wine is one of the biggest scams in the world. It's right up there with printer ink and diamonds.

And as far as high end vs. low end liquor, I'll ask you this: Go and buy enough materials to bake 2 cakes. For one cake, buy the cheapest products you can for each ingredient. For the next product, buy the most expensive ingredients you can for each ingredient.

If you can't taste the difference, you have Covid-19 and you are going to die because you won't be able to smell the fire in your kitchen when you forget about the second cake and fall asleep on the couch. So now you died of covid and smoke inhalation.

Wheeler did a mock draft that had teams selecting by their biggest needs and had one of Stutzle or Raymond falling to us at 7.

Sabres would win the draft if that happened.
- Pegullaville

I’d be very excited about that
Heck, I’d be considering those guys at pick2

For further explanation: I have bought 5 dollar wine that is some of the best wine I have ever tasted, no hangover, 5 star wine...

There is really bad cheap wine, yes, but as a rule of thumb, wine is either good or bad, regardless of price...

I have never bought a 5 dollar bottle of Whiskey and enjoyed the taste, the buzz or the hangover... It's literally made to get the most drunk in the cheapest way. Cheap liquor is always cheap liquor... You get what you pay for. You have to spend a little money. There's a reason cheap stuff is called "gut rot".

However, cheap wine is not always "cheap" wine. You can't gauge a wine's quality by it's price. Liquor, you almost certainly can gauge the quality of it by the price of it.

It's like saying Dr. Thunder tastes like Dr. Pepper. Just no. However Welch's grape juice tastes just like Minute Maid's grape juice.

Fitz I can't believe you are seriously saying that well and house liquor give you the same hangovers...

No, just no.

There's a huge difference in the purity of higher grade liquor than with low-end stuff, come on man.

Wine is the true scam - Most wine is more or less the same, the price goes up when you harvest less grapes and let people glean your crops - seriously look into it. The most "esteemed" wine makers can charge higher prices as long as they harvest only a certain percentage of their vineyard.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Beady,
“purity” doesn’t affect your hangover
The amount of alcohol (not the type),
how much food u ate the day of,
how hydrated your body was before you started drinking,
and especially your metabolism to process the alcohol
are BY FAR what affects it
Not whether or not there’s a minute amount of particulates in the 10oz of vodka Karen drank last night

Scientifically proven facts dude
NOT my opinion

There's always going to be bad wine but I have watched a documentary on it, taken mandatory courses while serving at a private club, done some of my own reading and research...

Wine is one of the biggest scams in the world. It's right up there with printer ink and diamonds.

And as far as high end vs. low end liquor, I'll ask you this: Go and buy enough materials to bake 2 cakes. For one cake, buy the cheapest products you can for each ingredient. For the next product, buy the most expensive ingredients you can for each ingredient.

If you can't taste the difference, you have Covid-19 and you are going to die because you won't be able to smell the fire in your kitchen when you forget about the second cake and fall asleep on the couch. So now you died of covid and smoke inhalation.


- BeadyEyedDouche

The difference is in taste (which is subjective),
not in what creates hangovers

Beady,
“purity” doesn’t affect your hangover
The amount of alcohol (not the type),
how much food u ate the day of,
how hydrated your body was before you started drinking,
and especially your metabolism to process the alcohol
are BY FAR what affects it
Not whether or not there’s a minute amount of particulates in the 10oz of vodka Karen drank last night

Scientifically proven facts dude
NOT my opinion
- jdfitz77

https://www.scienceabc.co...an-top-shelf-alcohol.html

There's always going to be bad wine but I have watched a documentary on it, taken mandatory courses while serving at a private club, done some of my own reading and research...

Wine is one of the biggest scams in the world. It's right up there with printer ink and diamonds.

And as far as high end vs. low end liquor, I'll ask you this: Go and buy enough materials to bake 2 cakes. For one cake, buy the cheapest products you can for each ingredient. For the next product, buy the most expensive ingredients you can for each ingredient.

If you can't taste the difference, you have Covid-19 and you are going to die because you won't be able to smell the fire in your kitchen when you forget about the second cake and fall asleep on the couch. So now you died of covid and smoke inhalation.


- BeadyEyedDouche

Were not talking about taste. We're talking about hangover effect.

And...

You don't research wine to learn about flavor and depth. You learn about wine by drinking it. And once you take steps that are beyond Mogan David, Carlo Rossi and the $8.99 shelf at your local gas station you start to appreciate higher quality.

idk...an everything bagel with some philly cream cheese is quite delectable
- Michael Pachla

Better for you. Not that either are good. I'd rather have a bagel than a doughnut.

Were not talking about taste. We're talking about hangover effect.

And...

You don't research wine to learn about flavor and depth. You learn about wine by drinking it. And once you take steps that are beyond Mogan David, Carlo Rossi and the $8.99 shelf at your local gas station you start to appreciate higher quality.
- Michael Pachla

Especially with wine, it's all bullpoop. If you like it, drink it. Spending more does not necessarily mean you're getting better wine.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/w...lpoop-heres-why-496098276

Better for you. Not that either are good. I'd rather have a bagel than a doughnut.
- Wetbandit1

Bagel and cream chz is a part of my hangover breakfast

Bagel and cream chz is a part of my hangover breakfast
- Michael Pachla

Same here and an ice coffee

Especially with wine, it's all bullpoop. If you like it, drink it. Spending more does not necessarily mean you're getting better wine.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/w...lpoop-heres-why-496098276
- Wetbandit1

If you like it drink it is cool but it doesn't necessarily mean you understand it or understand why a more expensive bottle of wine is worth it

After 102 games through Karlsson's first three NHL seasons, he had produced a grand total of 25 points.

Ryan Johansson produced a grand total of 33 points through his first two seasons and 107 total games.

Great that both were playing full time in the NHL. They were playing full time and producing very little. How impactful were they? Not is the answer.
- kingcong39

Karlsson's shot and xg share numbers were still solid. Johansen struggled in his second season, but was still fairing better than mittelstadt did.

I honestly can't recall the last time a top 10 pick had underlying numbers as bad as his in his DY+3 season

Same here and an ice coffee
- Sabretooth9

can't do ice coffee

If you like it drink it is cool but it doesn't necessarily mean you understand it or understand why a more expensive bottle of wine is worth it
- Michael Pachla

That's the whole point, other than the $2.99 bargain bin, it's not.

Karlsson's shot and xg share numbers were still solid. Johansen struggled in his second season, but was still fairing better than mittelstadt did.

I honestly can't recall the last time a top 10 pick had underlying numbers as bad as his in his DY+3 season
- Michael Ghofrani

he was also 22 yrs. old when he began his nhl career and had one pro season under his belt in Sweden...mitts had one year of college before he hit the pros at 19

That's the whole point, other than the $2.99 bargain bin, it's not.
- Wetbandit1

i'll just leave it with:

opinions vary

i'll just leave it with:

opinions vary
- Michael Pachla

Opinions vary, facts don't. They've done the test many times, and the "experts" always fail.

he was also 22 yrs. old when he began his nhl career and had one pro season under his belt in Sweden...mitts had one year of college before he hit the pros at 19
- Michael Pachla

That's true but the expectations matter too. wild bill was a late 2nd rounder. After pick 24/25 everyone is kind of lumped into the "hope this works out" category.

If you're getting drafted at 8, you should be able to stick around at 21 years old. Although that is a stronger criticism of the guys who drafted him at 8 rather than mittelstadt himself.

Opinions vary, facts don't. They've done the test many times, and the "experts" always fail.
- Wetbandit1

dude...let it go...if you want to drink a $2.99 bottle of wine, go right ahead, but don't try and tell me it tastes anywhere near upper echelon bottles...in fact it's pure rot gut compared to them...

just because you might have an unsophisticated palate doesn't mean everyone else has one or should aspire to that

It’s pretty simple.

After 100 NHL games, Karlsson was playing full time in the NHL. Same for Johansen.

After 100 NHL games, Mittlestat is a full time AHLer and ISNT looking like he’s miscast there.
- Der Kaiser

to be honest though

the sabres have been run by the misfit toys for the last 6 years

I honestly can't recall the last time a top 10 pick had underlying numbers as bad as his in his DY+3 season
- Michael Ghofrani

Michael Dal Colle?